Emirati Airforce Can Take Down the Iranian Airforce In Seconds

[Abii]

and also arabs have been living in southern "Iran" for centuries . . when the problems began . . before or after the revolution?

problems with the govt you mean?
You're telling me that arabs lived easier when an ultra nationalistic, Persian chauvinistic government (Pahlavi monarchy) was in power?

You have been brainwashed so much that you don't even know what you're talking about bro.

 

[Abii]

I have the right by expressing my point of view freely . . as it is right for you . . I think i showed the facts that supports my point of view . . But you have attacked the Arab nation in general . . The issue is not about love and hate . . The issue is that we in the Arab countries we are suffering from the Iranian intervention in our internal affairs . . Iran Interventions restored some areas in Lebanon th the stone age . . Iran Interventions is about to rupture the unity of Yemen . . Iran Interventions have turned Iraq into a sea of blood . . Can America stay in Iraq one hour without the Iran blessing? . . Who opened the way for U.S. forces to the occupation of two Muslim countries Iraq and Afghanistan?
When you find the answer I hope that you view it . . Without the addition of Inappropriate phrases to cover the topic . . thank you

same old same old
lies, bs, bitching

The Americans murdered 1 000 000 Iraqis
Saddam murdered 500 000 Iraqis by attacking Iran
Saddam used chemical weapons on Iraqi citizens
The sanctions murdered more than 1 000 000 Iraqi civilians in the 1990s
EVERY SUICIDE BOMBER IN IRAQ IS SUNNI
Iran turned Iraq into a sea of blood??? Are you crazy?
stop wasting my time kid.

 

[Nishan]

same old same old
lies, bs, bitching

The Americans murdered 1 000 000 Iraqis
Saddam murdered 500 000 Iraqis by attacking Iran
Saddam used chemical weapons on Iraqi citizens
The sanctions murdered more than 1 000 000 Iraqi civilians in the 1990s
EVERY SUICIDE BOMBER IN IRAQ IS SUNNI
Iran turned Iraq into a sea of blood??? Are you crazy?
stop wasting my time kid.

Abii . . have some logic please and read the following Carefully . .Word by Word . . then think and after that replay :

The Unholy War between Iran and Iraq
by David Reed
Reader's Digest (Aug. 1984 pg. 39)


Both East and West risk being drawn, against their better judgment, into grisly conflict.

Hundreds of Iranians boys at a time, many as young as ten to twelve, come in waves. Some carry rifles and some are unarmed. Their mission is to detonate mines and draw fire in preparation for full-scale attacks Iraqi lines. The boys carry plastic keys to heaven. They have been assured by their leader, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, that if they are killed on the battlefield they will go directly to paradise. "The purest joy in Islam," Khomeini has explained, "is to kill and be killed for Allah."

The war between Iraq and Iran, which enters its fifth year this September, has become a top concern in the West. Iraq, with known reserves surpassed only by Saudi Arabia, is one of the richest oil states on the Persian Gulf. The Iranians have recovered all the territory won from them by Iraq in the earlier stages of the war. If Iraq should fall, Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf states would be in danger. Saudi Arabia in untested militarily. Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Iman have only token armed forces. Khomeini could conceivably, bring the fabulous oil-fields of the Gulf under his control. If so, the West and Japan would be subjected to excruciating blackmail.

Khomeini had no interest in a negotiated peace. Instead, he seeks to overthrow the secular government of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and replace it with a puppet regime modeled after his own fanatical Islamic one. Iraq had called repeatedly for a ceasefire, but Khomeini says the war will end only when the "heretic" Saddam is overthrown and Iraq agrees to pay 100, 000 million pounds in "war reparations." "This is not a war for territory," the Ayatollah thunders. "It is a war between Islam and blasphemy." Saddam Hussein, in turn, sneers at Khomeini as a "Shah in a turban."

Khomeini has what he regards as a powerful fifth column in the region. While the rulers of Iraq and the Gulf states all follow the Sunni branch of Islam, they govern substantial populations of Shiites, the rival branch. 50% of all Iraqis are Shiites, as is a majority of the Iraqi armed forces. Khomeini, a Shiite, has been inciting Shiites in Iraq and the Gulf states to rise against their Sunni overlords.

There has been bitter enmity between the Iranian and Iraqi leaders since the 1970s, when Khomeini, having been exiled as a trouble-maker by the Shah, took up residence in Iraq, at the Shiite holy city of An Najaf. There he involved himself with Iraqi Shiites. Under pressure from the Shah, Saddam Hussein ordered him out in 1978. "He ate Iraqi bread and drank water from the Euphrates," Saddam Hussein declared, "but he was ungrateful."

A year later Khomeini was back in Iran as a head of a revolutionary government, and thirsting for revenge.

While Khomeini is shrilly anti-American, Saddam Hussein is only a little less so. "We have no diplomatic relations with the Americans because we consider them to be enemies of the Arab nation and enemies of Iraq," he has declared, in commenting on US support of Israel. He is pro-Soviet, avowedly Socialist and virutently anti-Israel.

None the less, Washington has abandoned its initial neutrality and has "tilted" towards Iraq. Iraq gets all the arms it needs from Moscow and France, but Washington has provided 600 million pounds worth of grain on credit. Although they gave little sympathy for some of Saddam Hussein's policies, such as Arab leaders as Jordan's King Hussein, Egypt's President Mubarak and Saudi Arabia's King Fahd also back him because of their fear of Khomeini.

American, British and French are stationed in and near the Gulf to ensure that the flow of oil continues. Each day, tankers carry 8 million barrels through the Strait of Hormuz, the 40 mile wide chokepoint at the entrance to the Gulf. This oil accounts for only 4% of US needs, but Western Europe depends on the Gulf for around 30% of its oil, and Japan for some 60%. After Khomeini threatened to blockade the strait, President Reagan declared: "There's no way that we could allow that channel to be closed."

The war begins in earnest in Basra, Iraq's second largest city and main port before the war closed it down. Basra is situated on the Shatt al Arab ("River of the Arabs"), a confluence of the Tigris and the Euphrates that flows into the Gulf. For 4 years, more than 80 ships from all over the world have been anchored in the Shatt, trapped by the war.

A Sheraton hotel overlooking the waterway remains open business - but there are few takers. Day and night, artillery shells streak into Basra from Iranian batteries at the front, some 20 miles to the east. Sandbags have been piled along Basra's streets to protect citizens from shelling, but people are killed almost every day.

The main front line reminds one of such First World War battlefields as Verdun, or the Somme, with massive, static concentrations of troops. Iraqi soldiers huddle in trenches and bunkers, peering out through barbed wire at a ravaged no man's land that separates them from the Iranian lines. Furious artillery duels go on almost continuously. An especially unpleasant echo of the First World War is the Iraqi use of the mustard gas and modern nerve gases against the Iranians. Observers feel that Saddam Hussein's decision to use these outlawed weapons reflects his growing desperation.

Saddam Hussein started the war in September 1980, when his troops invaded Iran. Ostensible justification for the attack was a long standing dispute about which country has sovereignty over the Shatt al Arab. Iran lies on its eastern shore and Iraq on its western.

Until 1975 Iraq claimed sovereignty over the waterway right up to the Iranian shore. That year, however, the Shah of Iran, then at the height of his power, forces Saddam Hussein to relinquish Iraq's sovereignty over the eastern half of the Shatt. Saddam Hussein regarded this as a humiliation, but to accept the Shah's dictate. In return, the Shah stopped supporting Kurdish tribesmen who had rebelled against the Baghdad government.

At the time of the 1980 invasion, Iran seethed with revolutionary disorder. The Shah had been overthrown that year before, and Khomeini was trying to consolidate his position. Saddam Hussein thought Iran would be a push-over. But even those Iranians who were against Khomeini rallied in the face of the foreign attack.

Knowledgeable sources report that well over 50,000 Iraqis have been killed in action while Iranian have been killed in action while Iranian casualties may be as high as 200,000. Even Iraqi soldiers have been appalled by the Iranian practice of sending boys on suicidal missions. Says one, "When we capture them, they cry for their mothers." More than 200 are being held at a camp in Ramadi, 60 miles west of Baghdad.

These young prisoners say that when they recruited, they were told they would be reserve troops, guarding Iranian cities in the rear. Instead they found themselves at the front, after only a few days of training.

A boy named Hassan, who was 12 when captured, said: "They told us, 'If you don't die a martyr on the battlefield, you'll be executed in the rear.'" Gesturing towards a group of boys, an adult prisoner said: "Each one you see here represents 100 killed on the battlefield."

The International Committee of the Red Cross has denounced both Iran and Iraq for battlefield atrocities, charging them with executing defenseless and abandoning wounded. Because Iranian soldiers would rather die as "martyrs" than surrender, Iraq has only about 8,000 Iranian prisoners while Iran holds some 50,000 Iraqis.

Despite dragging Iraq into an unwinnable war, Saddam Hussein is probably more entrenched in power now than before. Says a European diplomat: "He has a lot of will, decisiveness and a ruthless streak." Although war enthusiasm has vanished, the Iraqi people recoil in horror at the thought of a Khomeini-style revolutionary republic.

While Iran's record on human rights is even worse, Iraq remains one of the tightest police states in the world. In his 16 years as Iraq's strong man, Saddam Hussein has come to be known as the Butcher of Baghdad. Amnesty International reports that more than 800 political prisoners have been executed since 1978 - 300 in 1982 alone. Torture is widely practised.

Saddam Hussein has, however, set Iraq firmly on a secular course. His monolithic political party, the Ba'ath (Arabic for "renaissance"), emphatically rejects the idea of an Iranian-style fundamentalist Islamic state. Iraqi women are among the most emancipated in the Arab world. They hold leading government positions and some have graduated as fighter pilots from Iraq's air-force academy. Saddam Hussein's own wife is headmistress of a Baghdad school.

Corruption in Iraq is minimal by Third World Standards. Iraq's oil revenues have, for the most part, been spent wisely. Villages have been electrified, school's built and free health services and education established.

Everywhere in Baghdad are photographs of Saddam Hussein, a handsome man of 47, with a shock of black hair and a big mustache. Huge blow-ups, giving him a toothy, six-foot grin, have been erected at roundabouts. He has no military experience, but he is often shown in combat fatigues, pistol on hip, and sometimes in the uniform of a Field Marshal, weighted down with medals and a huge sword.

So far Iraq's Shiite majority has ignored Khomeini's cries for an uprising. Arab nationalism has proved stronger than religious affinities. Saddam Hussein has sought further to ensure their loyalty by spending more than 140 million pounds in refurbishing Shiite shrines and mosques and by lavishing benefits on his predominantly Shiite soldiers.

Experts on military and Middle Eastern affairs say that Iraq, dug in defensively and possessing superior fire-power, should be able to hold the Iranians off for the time being. After that, the crystal ball gets murky. If the Iranians ever seized a substantial amount of Iraqi territory, Saddam Hussein's high command might jettison him and sue for peace.

Says a diplomat in Baghdad: "How will it end? It depends on Khomeini, on whether he changes his mind, which isn't a characteristic of him, or whether he is removed from power or dies." As Khomeini has seen 84 summers, some Iraqis are counting on the Grim Reaper to come to their rescue.

The Source : The Unholy War between Iran and Iraq

YouTube - 13 years old Iranian warrior fights against Saddam

 

[Cyrus the Great]

dear Ganga
Arab countries do not intervene in Iran . . at the same time . . Iran gives itself the right to intervene in the Arab States . . See what is happening in Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen . . all the problems in these countries caused by Iranian interference . . Knowing that . . if Arab countries want evil to Iran . . This is as easy as possible . . Because Iran has a lot of ethnic groups that aspire to independence and established their own countries . . Before Khomeini's revolution . . Both Sunni and Shiite Arabs live in peace . . There is no differences between them . . Today every Arab country where there is Shiite minority . . became a volatile and unstable . . because of Iranian Interventions

you are a blind guy, i answered your post before but even you did not spend time to read it end and repeating same thing again.

 

[Cyrus the Great]

and also arabs have been living in southern "Iran" for centuries . . when the problems began . . before or after the revolution?

revolution was Iran domestic issue and irreverent to arabs. but you are right monarchs were very afraid of message of revolution.
but let mention you this Arab game against Persian started when Nasser command you arabs to call A.r.a.b.i.a.n gulf instead of real name of Persian Gulf

 

[Nishan]

revolution was Iran domestic issue and irreverent to arabs. but you are right monarchs were very afraid of message of revolution.
but let mention you this Arab game against Persian started when Nasser command you arabs to call A.r.a.b.i.a.n gulf instead of real name of Persian Gulf

Dear Cyruis the Great

Do you know how many times you used the word monarchs in your replays ? Is your dictionary of language became free of other vocabulary ?

Now you have opened a new door . . the Gulf . . is it Arabian or Persian ? . . . If you want to continue . . I'm ready . . But the facts that i will show it to you . . you would never like it

 

[Abii]

Dear Cyruis the Great

Do you know how many times you used the word monarchs in your replays ? Is your dictionary of language became free of other vocabulary ?

Now you have opened a new door . . the Gulf . . is it Arabian or Persian ? . . . If you want to continue . . I'm ready . . But the facts that i will show it to you . . you would never like it

what a brainwashed clown

 

[Thomas]

arabs hate shias (they consider shias to be "infidels" lol)
They are also always suspicious of Iranians and they think we have a plan to take over the ME or smtg like that.

What's funny is that Iran hasn't attacked another country in 300+ years

Did not Khomeini state that he wanted to export his revolution to other countries? "Establishing the Islamic state world-wide belong to the great goals of the revolution." so why wouldn't they think that? and Iran has been smart in thier approach to it. they don't wage war directly. instead they use proxies to fight for them. funding, training, and directing splinter groups to bring about instability. The Iranian revolutionary guard and Quds forces have been very busy all over the world.

 

[Abii]

Did not Khomeini state that he wanted to export his revolution to other countries? "Establishing the Islamic state world-wide belong to the great goals of the revolution." so why wouldn't they think that? and Iran has been smart in thier approach to it. they don't wage war directly. instead they use proxies to fight for them. funding, training, and directing splinter groups to bring about instability. The Iranian revolutionary guard and Quds forces have been very busy all over the world.

oh nice, now we have a yankee budging in.
What I meant was that they think we want to create a Parsi Empire.
you get it now?

locate Iran on a map first then give me your useless opinion

 

[Nishan]

what a brainwashed clown

look who is talking

 

[Nishan]

Did not Khomeini state that he wanted to export his revolution to other countries? "Establishing the Islamic state world-wide belong to the great goals of the revolution." so why wouldn't they think that? and Iran has been smart in thier approach to it. they don't wage war directly. instead they use proxies to fight for them. funding, training, and directing splinter groups to bring about instability. The Iranian revolutionary guard and Quds forces have been very busy all over the world.

Iranians have become smart . .after the huge losses suffered by Iran in the war against Iraq . .and after the defeat of Iran's military action against Iraq . . iranian politicians realize . . that they should find an alternative way to export there revolution . . without putting themselves directly in the wars . . so they took advantage of the Shiite minority in the Arab countries . . Instigated those minorities against their governments . . the examples are very clear . . the Iranians helped the Americans to occupy Iraq and Afghanistan . . they supported Hezbollah in Lebanon to make the country politically unstable . . they directly support the Houthis in Yemen . . they are also seeking to spread Shiism in most Arab countries . . all these things can not be denied . . only ignorant denied it . . even officials in Iran do not deny . . statements of Iranian officials against Bahrain is very clear

 

[Nishan]

oh nice, now we have a yankee budging in.
What I meant was that they think we want to create a Parsi Empire.
you get it now?

locate Iran on a map first then give me your useless opinion

Iran is using religion as a mask to achieve its goals . . iran's double standard in dealing with the Shiites is clear . . while Iran claims it is keen on the Shiites in the Arab States . . the Shia Arabs in Iran itself are being killed and displacement . . revive the Persian Empire is not meant literally . . but Iran's expansion ambitions "whatever labels" . . is well known

 

[Simorgh]

Admins/Mods,

Why is this racist Semite Nishan not banned yet? He is an obvious racist pan-Arabite, this is obvious for everyone here.

Both Iran and Pakistan are multi-ethnic nations and we do our best to mutually coexist. These are concepts that these Semites from the Persian Gulf area and to the west of that are not acquainted to. They beat up, rape and mutilate their Pakistani, Bangladeshi workers because they consider them to be lower than human beings. I recently even found out from a self-proclaiming "proud Arab" that they don't eat rice and they consider those who eat rice to be low class backward people.

It is obvious that many of these Semites are returning to their pagan roots and that such talk should have no place on a majority Muslim forum.

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

Anyone who brings the shia sunni divide should be stopped with brute force...

True shia have issues and we dont agree with some of the things that they say... but then sunni have their own problems also...

Shia Sunni nonsense is an enemy plot to divide and weaken Muslims... nothing else...

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I wont comment much about Nishan... except that he is quoting the traitor Hussain of Jordan in his signature...

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

revolution was Iran domestic issue and irreverent to arabs. but you are right monarchs were very afraid of message of revolution.
but let mention you this Arab game against Persian started when Nasser command you arabs to call A.r.a.b.i.a.n gulf instead of real name of Persian Gulf

How about calling it Shat Ul Islam?