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Eliminating scientist Abdus Salam by declaring his community (Ahmadi) as non-Muslim.

this is pure bullshit.... ahmedis are non Muslims by all mean
Can Catholics call Protestants and Pentecostals, JW's etc as Non-Christians, just because they are not adherent to 100% of Catholic/Orthodox teachings?
Can Hindus call RSS converts as Non-Hindus, just because they replaced their 330 million devi-devtas for Headdogwar and Golwalkar? NO!
So, Ahmedis are also technically Muslims. Just that Sunnis and Shias cannot tolerate. Heck, even Sunni's don't mind branding own people for slight corruptions (biddat) as Kafir.
Yes, Ahmediyya are Muslims. They believe in Allah'u and not YAHWEH or Brahma-Vishnu-Parmaeshwar. Just because they believe that Islamic prophet is NOT the Seal of the Prophets, cannot make them kuffar. OK?
 
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Can Catholics call Protestants and Pentecostals, JW's etc as Non-Christians, just because they are not adherent to 100% of Catholic/Orthodox teachings?
Can Hindus call RSS converts as Non-Hindus, just because they replaced their 330 million devi-devtas for Headdogwar and Golwalkar? NO!
So, Ahmedis are also technically Muslims. Just that Sunnis and Shias cannot tolerate. Heck, even Sunni's don't mind branding own people for slight corruptions (biddat) as Kafir.
Yes, Ahmediyya are Muslims. They believe in Allah'u and not YAHWEH or Brahma-Vishnu-Parmaeshwar. Just because they believe that Islamic prophet is NOT the Seal of the Prophets, cannot make them kuffar. OK?
by your logic jews are muslim too then, i think you know nothing about islam so stick with your hinduvata... ahmadiyat is against the basic principle of islam... it isnt hinduism where one day sati is ok but next day it isnt... in islam it is what it is, things dnt change over time in islam. btw i am sure you dnt know nothing about ahmadis beliefs too.
 
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btw i am sure you dnt know nothing about ahmadis beliefs too.
Hmm, as expected. The shining, tolerant face of Sunni'ism is shown. BTW, not a Hindu. May be I should put this as siggie, so that the religious Sunnis can stop imagining all Indian forumers as Hindus.
 
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by your logic jews are muslim too then, i think you know nothing about islam so stick with your hinduvata... ahmadiyat is against the basic principle of islam... it isnt hinduism where one day sati is ok but next day it isnt... in islam it is what it is, things dnt change over time in islam. btw i am sure you dnt know nothing about ahmadis beliefs too.
This matter blongs to him and Allah @Hallian_Khan :hitwall::crazy::hitwall:
 
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Can Catholics call Protestants and Pentecostals, JW's etc as Non-Christians, just because they are not adherent to 100% of Catholic/Orthodox teachings?
Can Hindus call RSS converts as Non-Hindus, just because they replaced their 330 million devi-devtas for Headdogwar and Golwalkar? NO!
So, Ahmedis are also technically Muslims. Just that Sunnis and Shias cannot tolerate. Heck, even Sunni's don't mind branding own people for slight corruptions (biddat) as Kafir.
Yes, Ahmediyya are Muslims. They believe in Allah'u and not YAHWEH or Brahma-Vishnu-Parmaeshwar. Just because they believe that Islamic prophet is NOT the Seal of the Prophets, cannot make them kuffar. OK?
you will change your stance once you know what ahemdis books say about your beloved Jesus and Marry
 
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you will change your stance once you know what ahemdis books say about your beloved Jesus and Marry
Why should I care? Even a Christian can get super offended by ANY Muslim, because the Christian God Jesus was made as a mere pathetic secondary Islamic prophet in Islam. You get? Christian mind does not think like Muslim mind. Our religiousness and offense tolerance is far high. We don't go to street do arson, when someone draws a picture.
 
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your stupidity at best @Hillial_Khan :hitwall: he was a pakistani citizen and you forget our Prophet (PBUH) when leave to preach in Taif, he was in danger by false prophets and tribal lords, but he leave these cases to Allah and those False prophets @Hillial_Khan :hitwall::hitwall::crazy::crazy:
where i said anything about abul salam? to me he is more Pakistani to me than myself.. he did more for Pakistan than i can ever imagine of period. n as for killing false prophet is concerned do you know why muslim fought against musliymah( malhoon) n there are many other examples too.
btw its hallian not hillial

This matter blongs to him and Allah @Hallian_Khan :hitwall::crazy::hitwall:
to me he was malhoon, the false prophet impostor, mad or crazy whatever but Prophet...
 
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made as a mere pathetic secondary Islamic prophet in Islam
what do you mean by "mere pathetic secondary Islamic prophet" is that how you address religious figures of others? is that what bible teaches you?I am sure this is not the teachings of Isa ibne Maryam


We don't go to street do arson,
ofcourse you dont you just launch a new crusade
deus vult
 
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ofcourse you dont you just launch a new crusade
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As far as I'm aware he left it on his own. There has never been a case where a citizen of Pakistan was ordered by the court to leave just bcuz of his religion...that would be against the law.
Can you tell the exact date when the constitution was amended to declare Ahmadiyas as non-Muslim?
 
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Can Catholics call Protestants and Pentecostals, JW's etc as Non-Christians, just because they are not adherent to 100% of Catholic/Orthodox teachings?
Can Hindus call RSS converts as Non-Hindus, just because they replaced their 330 million devi-devtas for Headdogwar and Golwalkar? NO!
So, Ahmedis are also technically Muslims. Just that Sunnis and Shias cannot tolerate. Heck, even Sunni's don't mind branding own people for slight corruptions (biddat) as Kafir.
Yes, Ahmediyya are Muslims. They believe in Allah'u and not YAHWEH or Brahma-Vishnu-Parmaeshwar. Just because they believe that Islamic prophet is NOT the Seal of the Prophets, cannot make them kuffar. OK?

According to qadianis only they are Muslim and the rest Shia Sunni etc all over the world are kaafirs what say you ?


P.s There is only one GOD not two not three nor four no matter what you call him GOD is one

Can you tell the exact date when the constitution was amended to declare Ahmadiyas as non-Muslim?

The 1974 Declaration of Muslim World League:
Qadianism or Ahmadiyyat: It is a subversive movement against Islam and the Muslim world, which falsely and deceitfully claims to be an Islamic sect; who under the guise of Islam and for the sake of mundane interests contrives and plans to damage the very foundations of Islam. Its eminent deviations from the basic Islamic principles are as follows:

  1. Its founder claimed that he was a Prophet.
  2. They deliberately distort the meanings of the verses of the Holy Quran.
  3. They declared that Jehad has been abolished.
Qadianism was originally fostered by the British imperialism. Hence it has been flourishing under her flag. This movement has completely been disloyal to and dishonest in affairs of the Muslim Ummah. Rather, it has been loyal to Imperialism and Zionism. It has deep associations and cooperation with the anti Islamic forces and teachings especially through the following nefarious methods:

  1. Construction of mosques with the assistance of the anti Islamic forces wherin the misleading Qadiani thoughts are imparted to the people.
  2. Opening of schools institutions and orphanages wherein the people are taught and trained as to how they can be more anti Islamic in their activities. They also published the corrupted versions of the Holy Quran in different local and international languages.
In order to combat these dangers, the Conference recommends the following measures:

  1. All the Muslim organization in the world must keep a vigilant eye on all the activities of Qadianisin their respective countries; to confine them all strictly to their schools, institutions and orphanages only. Moreover he Muslims of the world be shown the true picture of Qadianism and be briefed of their various tactics so that the Muslims of the world be saved from their designs.
  2. They must be declared non Muslims and ousted form the fold of Islam. And be barred to enter the Holy lands.
  3. There must be no dealings with the Qadianis. They must be coycotted socially , economically and culturally Nor they be married with or to Nor they be allowed to be buried in the Muslims graveyards. And they be treated like other non Muslims.
  4. All the Muslim countries must impose restrictions on the activities of the claimant of Prophethood Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani’s followers; must declare them a non Muslim minority must not etrust them them with any post of responsibility in any Muslim country.
  5. The alterations effected by them in the Holy Quran must be made public and the people be briefed of them and all these be prohibited for further publication.
  6. All such groups as are deviators from islam must be treated at par with the Qadianis.
Fatwa of permanent board of Inquiry and Fatwa (Saudi Arabia):
Question: What is the Islamic ruling (fatwa) about this new religion Ahmadiyya and its followers? … In addition, when and where did this religion originate and what is the Islamic ruling (fatwa) about people who are in its favor?

All Praise to Allah who is The One and Blessings and Peace be upon his Messenger, his Followers and Companions … To the Point:

Answer: The Pakistan government has ruled these people outside the fold of Islam; also, the Muslim World League (Rabita A’ailm-e-Islami) in Mecca has passed a similar fatwa. In the gathering of the Muslim Scholars (Rabita A’ailm-e-Islami) in the year 1394 A.H. (1974), a written statement was drafted to explain the true principles of this group, how and when they started, and so on. Very briefly, this group has declare that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, an Indian, is a prophet who has received revelations from Allah and that no one will be correct in his Islam, unless he believes in him (Mirza). He (Mirza) was born in the 13th century, but Allah(SWT) has told us in his Book (Quran) that prophet Muhammad(SAW) is the last of Prophets1; all Muslim scholars have given an unanimous ruling that whoever makes the claim that after him(SAW) there can appear a new prophet is a Kafir (non-Muslim), because he will be lying about Allah’s Book and about the hadith of the Prophet(SAW) which states that he(SAW) is the very last of the Prophets. In addition, this would be contrary to the consensus of the Muslim Ummah.

With Allah is Success and Peace of Allah be upon his Messenger Muhammad and his Followers and Companions.
 
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I mean Abdul salam, He is Ahmedi/Qadyani too @Hallian_Khan that context of the Thread @Hallian_Khan :p:
n thats what i am saying ahmediatiat or any religious belief has nothing to do anything with Patriotism... being a Pakistani we are just Pakistani first... if any muslim, n there are many, not good for Pakistani he is bad not because he blv in somethng but he is against Pakistan... declaring ahmadis non muslim had nothing to do with abdul salam at all... he is our hero n will always be.
 
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According to qadianis only they are Muslim and the rest Shia Sunni etc all over the world are kaafirs what say you ?


P.s There is only one GOD not two not three nor four no matter what you call him GOD is one



The 1974 Declaration of Muslim World League:
Qadianism or Ahmadiyyat: It is a subversive movement against Islam and the Muslim world, which falsely and deceitfully claims to be an Islamic sect; who under the guise of Islam and for the sake of mundane interests contrives and plans to damage the very foundations of Islam. Its eminent deviations from the basic Islamic principles are as follows:

  1. Its founder claimed that he was a Prophet.
  2. They deliberately distort the meanings of the verses of the Holy Quran.
  3. They declared that Jehad has been abolished.
Qadianism was originally fostered by the British imperialism. Hence it has been flourishing under her flag. This movement has completely been disloyal to and dishonest in affairs of the Muslim Ummah. Rather, it has been loyal to Imperialism and Zionism. It has deep associations and cooperation with the anti Islamic forces and teachings especially through the following nefarious methods:

  1. Construction of mosques with the assistance of the anti Islamic forces wherin the misleading Qadiani thoughts are imparted to the people.
  2. Opening of schools institutions and orphanages wherein the people are taught and trained as to how they can be more anti Islamic in their activities. They also published the corrupted versions of the Holy Quran in different local and international languages.
In order to combat these dangers, the Conference recommends the following measures:

  1. All the Muslim organization in the world must keep a vigilant eye on all the activities of Qadianisin their respective countries; to confine them all strictly to their schools, institutions and orphanages only. Moreover he Muslims of the world be shown the true picture of Qadianism and be briefed of their various tactics so that the Muslims of the world be saved from their designs.
  2. They must be declared non Muslims and ousted form the fold of Islam. And be barred to enter the Holy lands.
  3. There must be no dealings with the Qadianis. They must be coycotted socially , economically and culturally Nor they be married with or to Nor they be allowed to be buried in the Muslims graveyards. And they be treated like other non Muslims.
  4. All the Muslim countries must impose restrictions on the activities of the claimant of Prophethood Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani’s followers; must declare them a non Muslim minority must not etrust them them with any post of responsibility in any Muslim country.
  5. The alterations effected by them in the Holy Quran must be made public and the people be briefed of them and all these be prohibited for further publication.
  6. All such groups as are deviators from islam must be treated at par with the Qadianis.
Fatwa of permanent board of Inquiry and Fatwa (Saudi Arabia):
Question: What is the Islamic ruling (fatwa) about this new religion Ahmadiyya and its followers? … In addition, when and where did this religion originate and what is the Islamic ruling (fatwa) about people who are in its favor?

All Praise to Allah who is The One and Blessings and Peace be upon his Messenger, his Followers and Companions … To the Point:

Answer: The Pakistan government has ruled these people outside the fold of Islam; also, the Muslim World League (Rabita A’ailm-e-Islami) in Mecca has passed a similar fatwa. In the gathering of the Muslim Scholars (Rabita A’ailm-e-Islami) in the year 1394 A.H. (1974), a written statement was drafted to explain the true principles of this group, how and when they started, and so on. Very briefly, this group has declare that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, an Indian, is a prophet who has received revelations from Allah and that no one will be correct in his Islam, unless he believes in him (Mirza). He (Mirza) was born in the 13th century, but Allah(SWT) has told us in his Book (Quran) that prophet Muhammad(SAW) is the last of Prophets1; all Muslim scholars have given an unanimous ruling that whoever makes the claim that after him(SAW) there can appear a new prophet is a Kafir (non-Muslim), because he will be lying about Allah’s Book and about the hadith of the Prophet(SAW) which states that he(SAW) is the very last of the Prophets. In addition, this would be contrary to the consensus of the Muslim Ummah.

With Allah is Success and Peace of Allah be upon his Messenger Muhammad and his Followers and Companions.
You didn't get the question. I asked the exact (month & year) and not the content of the amendment.
 
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