Elephants Brutalized in Religious Ceremonies in India

[Dubious]

Nowthe true color is coming out.. its not about the animal, its all about religion.. who said I am vegetarian? Go have some more chicken tandoori and moan about animal cruelty..

did you just see what a fool you made of yourself...Congratulations!

 

[nair]

Why are you so covering up the problem. Is it because elephant rearing and beating is more of a Keralite or mallu problem?

I remember flicking through the channels in my youth while in Lucknow and noted that there was an entire movie on the elephant tusks being imported by arabs or rather muslims. Sheikh Zayed the ruler of the UAE was a villain in this movie. But then in India elephants are beaten and abused by Hindus but that doesn't raise eyebrows. As I said India is deeply polarized between Hindu and Muslim. If a muslim does something wrong all hell breaks loose but when a Hindu does it the reaction is mum.



All guys are involved in purposely covering up the problem, denying it exists... rather than accept it and work to resolve it. That is the first step to solving the problem but Indians are locked in a belief of their superiority and thus never admit they are wrong.



So you are arguing that you mallus cannot harm animals? As I said in my first post the best option for all animals would be to be raised by animal specialists not temple authorities who barely know how to treat them. Our own area in Lucknow is filled with dogs and cows and the rooftops dominated by monkeys. They are pests. People cannot even pass the narrow streets because of these animals. They belong to pens and cages or with trained professionals who can give them the love and care they need.

Personally I don't have a love of the elephant as such but am committed to showing the differential treatment for muslim and hindu. I have done so vividly.



Why do the Indians look down at muslims eating meat? Its their choice and their right. Many mallus eat these delicious kebabs too. So aren't they hypocritical as they eat meat yet shout for the protection of the cow?

Well I am not going to reply you on the points you just mentioned, because you think, breath, eat, drink religion (just count the number of times you used hindu and muslim in the quoted post)..... Your religious hatred seems to have created significant damage to you........

 

[Iggy]

did you just see what a fool you made of yourself...Congratulations!

Yea right!! Your argument about killing an animal is okay but beating is very cruel was a pure genius one!!

 

[haviZsultan]

Well I am not going to reply you on the points you just mentioned, because you think, breath, eat, drink religion (just count the number of times you used hindu and muslim in the quoted post)..... Your religious hatred seems to have created significant damage to you........

You will find me very sympathetic to Hindus as a religion but if you want to me to stay shut and mum about atrocities committed to our people then you will find it very hard. I have constantly promoted the right of Pakistani Hindus to live freely in a secular Pakistan but you are blind to that because I am critical of India for its poor record of treating minorities.

Muslims of Indian occupied parts are a free people. They have the same demands of education freedom and equality none of which India provided them. And then when we complain we are called victim card playing minorities.

 

[Supply&Demand]

Firstly,I'm not a liberal.
You lot believe cows are sacred but none of you fuckers dare to take the ones on the street home.If you take them to the Cow shelter,they take in the productive one and leave the old skinny ones on the road along with the fatherly bulls to kill people in road accidents.

BS. Literally.

Standard argument of dumb liberals. I have seen many Gaushalas where they care for sick and dying cows. If u dont know any, does not means they do not exist. So before talking trash, which by the way is a hallmark of dumb libtards, you should research.

 

[unbiasedopinion]

There has to be a way of population control or they will bleed into a horde.

Totally agreee. The species which requires population control is humans not the animals. Humans are the one who has been breding like a horde and everywhere. They are encroaching every other species on this planet.
and when i say human, it means everyone including the one who uses religion to justify killing of animals because some of their forefathers said something in a book or someone believes by bathing in some animals urine one gets salvation.

 

[cloud_9]

BS. Literally.

Standard argument of dumb liberals. I have seen many Gaushalas where they care for sick and dying cows. If u dont know any, does not means they do not exist. So before talking trash, which by the way is a hallmark of dumb libtards, you should research.

LOL! How could I know something so grandeur.Turds like you pay Rs. 10/15 for a bag of fodder because the Pandit told you to do so .
But that fodder is donated by "libtards" like us who farm and the gaushal deep throats hundreds of turds like you for money !

 

[SarthakGanguly]

This seems to be a part of a new offensive. There are scores of reports on how useless the Kumbh Mela is. Or jalikattu. And so on.

Hope the fake charade fails.

A pro lobby which beats elephants in public?
Please explain these:







Your law and its application:



And you call this love for the animal:

Speaking to those fired by the superiority of their faith over all others and such zeal cannot be persuaded with logic. We don't need to answer to anyone for our treatment of our animals.

Yea right!! Your argument about killing an animal is okay but beating is very cruel was a pure genius one!!

I think... you are wasting your time over there.

Man,this is truly secular

Let's not go there. All Keralites I know love elephants. Without exception. Regardless of religion.

This is a 'See why we say Hinduism is inferior' thread. A pat on one's own back so to say. Just enjoy.

 

[Supply&Demand]

LOL! How could I know something so grandeur.Turds like you pay Rs. 10/15 for a bag of fodder because the Pandit told you to do so .
But that fodder is donated by "libtards" like us who farm and the gaushal deep throats hundreds of turds like you for money !

What the hell r u even talking? u have become senile in your hatred of hindus and their customs. grow out of ur hate against hindus, jackass and stop claiming things like u farm and donate. I doubt u can even recognize shovel if it hits ur ***..

 

[T-72M1]

I remember flicking through the channels in my youth while in Lucknow and...

just when exactly were you in Lucknow, what year ?

 

[nair]

You will find me very sympathetic to Hindus as a religion but if you want to me to stay shut and mum about atrocities committed to our people then you will find it very hard

Well It is upto you, what you want to do or not......And It doesnt make any difference to me if you are sympathetic to Hinduism or any other religion, For me Religion is a personal matter, and I do not think of it at all.... But when i get to converse with people like you, i am constantly reminded that I am a hindu, otherwise religion doesnt matter for me or the people whom i live with (on my family, friends and community)..... I do not know which atrocities you are talking about, you can find many , but then we are talking about atrocities towards elephants here......

Muslims of Indian occupied parts are a free people. .

Again the religious shit.... Every Indian is free as per the constitution, and there is no discrimination in constitution based on religion (yes there are some freebies provided based on religion and caste).....

They have the same demands of education freedom and equality none of which India provided them

Lol..... Barring some incidents which should be seen in isolation, Everyone has the freedom for education..... Infact in the state i live, they get more freedom than in KSA...... But if you want to believe otherwise, You are welcome, and I am happy that i have some on out side india who worry for my own brothers than his own or his country men.....

And then when they complain They are called victim card playing minorities

It depends, If the complaints are genuine, then that would be addressed..... If not then that would be called victim card, be it minority or be it majority.....

Now as TTA's we should ensure that the discussion is on topic....... And If you have anything to add to the topic and discuss it further, please quote me, will be more than happy to have a conversation.... If it is for the religious discussion please spare me.....



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[haviZsultan]

This is a 'See why we say Hinduism is inferior' thread. A pat on one's own back so to say. Just enjoy.

Hardly so. This is a thread condemning todays Hindus not Hinduism. I have noted that Hinduism is a beautiful religion with some of the best animal protection ideals in it. No other religion has so much respect for the animal as Hinduism. However is it not worry some what some practitioners of Hinduism are doing to minorities and against their own religion? Selling cows to muslims who will eat them themselves yet lynching a muslim for selling cattle? Harming elephants and keeping them in slave-like conditions.

This is very much like Salman Taseers murder in Pakistan. Are we condemning Islam if we suggest revocation of the blasphemy law. In reality I have noticed that Indian Hindus and Pakistani Muslims are far more similar than it appears. Both have the same hot headed, religiously orthodox mindsets.

 

[T-72M1]

Hardly so. This is a thread condemning todays Hindus not Hinduism. I have noted that Hinduism is a beautiful religion with some of the best animal protection ideals in it. No other religion has so much respect for the animal as Hinduism. However is it not worry some what some practitioners of Hinduism are doing to minorities and against their own religion? Selling cows to muslims who will eat them themselves yet lynching a muslim for selling cattle? Harming elephants and keeping them in slave-like conditions.

This is very much like Salman Taseers murder in Pakistan. Are we condemning Islam if we suggest revocation of the blasphemy law. In reality I have noticed that Indian Hindus and Pakistani Muslims are far more similar than it appears. Both have the same hot headed, religiously orthodox mindsets.

but when were you in Lucknow "flipping channels" ?

 

[haviZsultan]

but when were you in Lucknow "flipping channels" ?

Long time back now. 6-7 years ago.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Long time back now. 6-7 years ago.

Your date of Joining shows Jul 30 / 2007

So you joined from Lucknow and then shifted to Pakistan

And your age is 26 -- so you have lived for 19 years in India

SO you must be an Indian Citizen ; You must be having an Indian passport