Electronic tracking: New constraint for Saudi women

[Secur]

Time to put money where my mouth is, time to bring in some FDI to a hi-tech pharma company near where you live. Eik teer do shikkar! LOL!!!

And the world shall remember me forever ! Secur pharmaceuticals !

 

[Azadkashmir]

Yeah , fight Muslims and support Tel Aviv in the offensive against unarmed Palestinians in the way to go ! and the Grand Mufti asks the protesters to back off and let the Monarch sleep with the Zionists !

trouble is they have large cash reserve n will spend spend on Wahhabi institutions, to gain support after mass brainwashing. shariah is for poor but king can sleep with servants probably even sleep with bush. we saw obama getting a nice gold chain necklace. Thank god pakistanis hold on their land otherwise they would off bought our lands and transfer the food over just like what they doing in Africa.

 

[banned]

I don't know how to deal with such posts, well, the first sentence doesn't worth replying while I would say for the 2nd one... Plz read history my friend.
Pre-Islamic Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Habibi all of this has nothing to do with Arabs, the first tablet is from Romans, the second photo is from Persians and the third is Madain Saleh - who are unmistakebly more closer to Jews than Arabs.

Please dont steal other people culture and religion to make your own!

 

[Serpentine]

I understand that Saudis sometimes exaggerate applying some Islam practices like covering up the face and women driving, but... but... the woman in Islam must not leave without her husbands or father and the guardian in general permission, and this is mandatory in Islam not in Saudi culture my brother, this is not slavery at all, I can't let my wife leave alone to a distant place for her own safety.

Guys, I can understand non-Muslims critisim but it's absurd to see Muslims criticize it, this is Islam, commit to it or just leave it, not to make it suit your own thoughts and beliefs.

I have noticed this allot, non-Arab who don't understand Arabic inserted many of their cultural beliefs into it, and it's even getting worse. I know that some Arabs did that and they are a minority, but you will never understand Quraan or Hadiths perfectly if you don't understand Arabic, I read Arabic Ayats and the best translations available and they are not the same 100%, it's so beautiful and clear if you read it in Arabic.

What I am saying is that I hope people here leave us practice Islam the way it has always been for 1400 years. You guys do whatever you want, it's your own business but keep your beliefs away from us.

Eventually, no one is perfect, don't ever learn Islam from the way people act or practice, Quraan firstly and Sahih Hadiths secondly are your only preferences. I know I am not perfect myself.

I know what you are trying to say here,but I don't see Islam saying put tracking device on women.What you are saying here is usually seen in Arab countries,so can we conclude non-Arab muslims are not following Islam's teachings?Don't you think it's more a cultural thing rather than a religious one?

Islam also says men should not marry more than one woman unless they can treat them equally.But in most Arab countries,you see men having 4 or 5 wives,do you think they are all being treated the same?
These are just excuses to put will of very minority on the majority.Let's assume putting tracking devices on women is allowed in Islam,it would be nice to see Saudis doing all Islam's teachings exactly the same way it is,like this one.
Islam also encourages people to use their ability to think and conclude,for me,such act is not acceptable by any means,you may call me infidel for telling this,but if I find basic teachings of a religion in contrast to what a logical person may conclude,I won't follow it.That's the good thing about Islam,all of its teaching can be concluded using logics and rational thinking,and for me,what Saudis are doing is not a teaching of Islam.Maybe at the end,you are thr one who is telling the truth,but that's that's the way I think.As you said,none of us is perfect,so each one of us can certainly make mistakes.

 

[Secur]

trouble is they have large cash reserve n will spend spend on Wahhabi institutions, to gain support after mass brainwashing. shariah is for poor but king can sleep with servants probably even sleep with bush. we saw obama getting a nice gold chain necklace. Thank god pakistanis hold on their land otherwise they would off bought our lands and transfer the food over just like what they doing in Africa.

You will be surprised if I start posting the great deeds of the countless his and her highnesses prince and princess and their very Islamic and Sharia-ful lifestyle ! Pakistanis needed to hold on their free thinking too instead of letting the poison harming them in 80's ... Sad !

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Habibi all of this has nothing to do with Arabs, the first tablet is from Romans, the second photo is from Persians and the third is Madain Saleh - who are unmistakebly more closer to Jews than Arabs.

Please dont steal other people culture and religion to make your own!

Okay, thank you for the info...

 

[banned]

You will be surprised if I start posting the great deeds of the countless his and her highness and very Islamic and Sharia-ful lifestyle ! Pakistanis needed to hold on their free thinking too instead of letting the poison harming them in 80's ... Sad !

Shariah is for the gullible as good mind and social control trick nothing else.
Incite the fear of unknown, repeat that Allah get angry by doing this and doing that - result you have a donkey nation.


Assad refused to send more hareem girls and his holiness is now very angry!

 

[Hyperion]

Please dont steal other people culture and religion to make your own!

LOL... spot on dude, now they have started peddling the history of their conquerors, packaged as their own.

Just imagine, 200 years down the road, Bahrain may lay claim to the 5th fleet, and some Arab kid will be sitting on "ultra-net" and bragging about their glorious past!

 

[Azadkashmir]

You will be surprised if I start posting the great deeds of the countless his and her highnesses prince and princess and their very Islamic and Sharia-ful lifestyle ! Pakistanis needed to hold on their free thinking too instead of letting the poison harming them in 80's ... Sad !

i know i know my friend i know for example their was one case of princess checking out some euro model guy and her butler n him got into fight n it was all over newspaper now she wants asylum due to shariah punishment.

 

[Secur]

Shariah is for the gullible as good mind and social control trick nothing else.Incite the fear of unknown, repeat that Allah get angry by doing this and doing that - result you have a donkey nation.

Assad refused to send more hareem girls and his holiness is now very angry!

Yeah , control the population through it ! Because in human psychology " nothing is more fearsome than the unknown " so incite fear in the heart of people and do not let them use their critical thinking skills and common sense granted by the God ! A donkey nation which follows the faith blindly without asking questions Why !

Yeah , that is going to be true for a few other nations too ...

i know i know my friend i know for example their was one case of princess checking out some euro model guy and her butler n him got into fight n it was all over newspaper now she wants asylum due to shariah punishment.

All over they are ! The Wikileaks revealed secret parties in Riyadh for young prince and princesses of the house of Saud while the religious police stands guard ....

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

I know what you are trying to say here,but I don't see Islam saying put tracking device on women.What you are saying here is usually seen in Arab countries,so can we conclude non-Arab muslims are not following Islam's teachings?Don't you think it's more a cultural thing rather than a religious one?

Off course I am not generalizing, but I said Whoever understand Arabic would understand Islam much better. Just look at the guy who claimed that Islam was stolen from Zoroastrian Worship, and many other cases I noticed here.

Islam also says men should not marry more than one woman unless they can treat them equally.But in most Arab countries,you see men having 4 or 5 wives,do you think they are all being treated the same?

This is the first time I hear about this, I think you are referring to the Saudi Amirs who used to marry more than 5 times, well they marry only 4 at the time, however I agree it's weird and disrespectful of women but very rare though.


It's clean and clear in Islam that it's haram to marry more than one woman if are incapable of treating them equally, and the max number is only 4.

These are just excuses to put will of very minority on the majority.Let's assume putting tracking devices on women is allowed in Islam,it would be nice to see Saudis doing all Islam's teachings exactly the same way it is,like this one.
Islam also encourages people to use their ability to think and conclude,for me,such act is not acceptable by any means,you may call me infidel for telling this,but if I find basic teachings of a religion in contrast to what a logical person may conclude,I won't follow it.That's the good thing about Islam,all of its teaching can be concluded using logics and rational thinking,and for me,what Saudis are doing is not a teaching of Islam.Maybe at the end,you are thr one who is telling the truth,but that's that's the way I think.As you said,none of us is perfect,so each one of us can do make mistakes.

I absolutely agree, I am not defending anyone here but rather replying to those who object taking the guardian's permission for leaving.

 

[Secur]

This is the first time I hear this from you, I think you are referring to the Saudi Amirs who used to marry more than 5 times, well they marry only 4 at the time, however I agree it's weird and disrespectful of women but very rare though.

I absolutely agree, I am not defending anyone here but rather replying to those who object taking the guardian's permission for leaving.

Mate , they have now found a loophole around that problem , marry another besides the actual 4 and divorce the first one , the count remains at 4 ... Continue the process !

That is good , but still there is no restriction of any kind for women to seek anybody's permission to go anywhere or work , otherwise you are taking the freedom of a human and reviving slavery again ... Islam is not an oppressive religion as your messed up interpretations have made it out to be ...

 

[Azadkashmir]

Yeah , control the population through it ! Because in human psychology " nothing is more fearsome than the unknown " so incite fear in the heart of people and do not let them use their critical thinking skills and common sense granted by the God ! A donkey nation which follows the faith blindly without asking questions Why !

Yeah , that is going to be true for a few other nations too ...



All over they are ! The Wikileaks revealed secret parties in Riyadh for young prince and princesses of the house of Saud while the religious police stands guard ....

what about that servant that got killed by Saudi prince apparently he was gay.

 

[Serpentine]

Off course I am not generalizing, but I said Whoever understand Arabic would understand Islam much better. Just look at the guy who claimed that Islam was stolen from Zoroastrian Worship, and many other cases I noticed here.




This is the first time I hear about this, I think you are referring to the Saudi Amirs who used to marry more than 5 times, well they marry only 4 at the time, however I agree it's weird and disrespectful of women but very rare though.


It's clean and clear in Islam that it's haram to marry more than one woman if are incapable of treating them equally, and the max number is only 4.



I absolutely agree, I am not defending anyone here but rather replying to those who object taking the guardian's permission for leaving.

I used number of wives as examples,but more than one wife is common in Arab world,while in my country,Iran,marrying more than one woman is almost impossible since it usually leads to divorce,because men usually go to another woman after they find the first one unattractive or the second one much more attractive.

I hope at the end,evey single Muslim follows the right path,no matter what other people think or say about it.

 

[Secur]

what about that servant that got killed by Saudi prince apparently he was gay.

That is a famous story - the homosexuality is rising amongst Princes who want to try out new things in the world ...