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[Aramagedon]

How is that even possible? Lets pretend thats true, does it matter. Everyone will continue to call us Turks....and not err Iranian. So this discussion is pretty pointless if you ask me.

Culture > Race/Blood

Your countrymen brought this useless disscution here and I proved you are not even Turks but turkified/Persianized since Seljuk empire.

Plus Azeris are pure Iranian people.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Your countrymen brought this useless disscution here and I proved you are not even Turks but turkified/Persianized since Seljuk empire.

Plus Azeris are pure Iranian people Turkish speaker.

Azar: 'Fire' in Persian

Have fun

Semites lived in modern-day Turkey long before Iranians. Anatolia was heavily influenced by Semites, Greeks, Armenians, Caucasian peoples and to a smaller extend Iranians. This is reflected in their DNA.

All of Southeastern Turkey, including areas inhabited by Turkish Arabs, are full of ancient Semitic historical sites, some of them World UNESCO Heritage Sites. Even many cities have Arab origin to this day. Even in the so-called "Kurdish areas", many of their towns have Arabic names because they were funded by Arabs or ruled by Arabs. Diyarbakir is a good example. Many others.

Just like most of the so-called Kurdish areas of Iraq and Syria (tiny in size) 100% of them are of Semitic origin that Kurds falsely claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Turkish_people





@SALMAN F

 

[MMM-E]

Anatolis have high value of Iranian blood and only 15% of them are real Turk people

Iran was ruled by the TURKS for over 900 years between 999 and 1925
and there are 30-40 millions of TURKS in Iran

and AZERI = 100 % Oghuz TURK
-- Turks in Turkey,Azerbaijan,Iran,Turkmenistan = Oghuz Turks
-- Tatar , Bashkir , Kyrgyz , Kazakh , Uyghur = Kıpchak Turks

and there are millions of Bosnians,Albanians,Circassians,Kurds and Arabs in Turkey
also Georgians,Armenians,Chechens,Abkhazians,etc

even Europeans ( R1A Russians , Poles and R1B British , French , Germans , most of Italians ) and Native Americans ( Haplogroup Q ) are descendant of the Proto Turkic Peoples ( Haplogroup P-M45 )

Haplogroup P-M45 ( proto Turkic Peoples )
Time of origin : 45.000 years ago
Place of origin : Central asia and Southeast Asia
Descendants : Haplogroup Q and R

Haplogroup R ( Russians,,French,,Germans,,British,most of Italians )
Time of origin : 26,800 years ago
Place of origin : Central Asia

Gene Pool of BASHKIR TURKS subpopulations Haplogrup R 95,0% (R1a1,,R1b ,,R1b1b2 )
TURKEY : Haplogrup R 44,0% ( R1a , R1b )
even Ottoman Dynasty has R1a of haplogroup

only WATCH... Genetic Origins of the proto Turkic Peoples and their Relatives ( National Geographics )

TURKISH WORLD

TURKS created 16 Empires in the last 2500 years ( in China , in India , in Iran , in Anatolia , in Arabian Peninsula , in Egypt and in Europe )

even Ashkenazi Jews are not descended from the historical Israelites of antiquity, but from Khazars, a Turkic People

the Khazars (who converted to Judaism in the 8th century) migrated westwards into Eastern Europe ( Russia , Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, Hungary and Germany ) from north of the Black Sea and Caspian Sea
in the 12th and 13th centuries when the Khazar Empire was collapsing

 

[TurkeyForever]

oh no the goat lover is back in this thread.

He has to power in Iran do you think he isnt gonna follow his interests based on ethnicity?
What are you even trying to prove here? I feel like im talking to a 12 year old..

This yingSUCK is just attacking Turkey for reasons yet unknown to us.

Disgusting Turks murdering and raping Armenian.

What u saying YingSUCK, it's obvious you're just here to attack Turks.

Maybe you are armenian? Maybe you are kurd? Maybe you are saif al-arab under a different nickname?

Reported....

I take a look at your post history....and all of your posts are about Turks....

Seems like you are just a PKK fanboy....too bad there is no Kurdish flag or else i would call you false flagger, heval.

Yeah considering Afrin campaign big change it might be a kurd.

Smaller chance it's an armenian.

Big chance it's "saif al-arab" under a different nickname, he is the only one here that attacks Turks with multiple nicknames.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

This Azeri guy (Oghuz, or essentially Turkish) just foiled Turks' dream in Syria.

Are you drunk? This guys surname is Hosseini. He is wearing a Black turban. He is an Arab paternally (hence a Sayyid supposedly) and identifies as such aside from an Iranian. 10.000's of Arab Shia families helped turn Iran into a Shia Twelver state some 500 years ago. They got land and estates from the rulers and came to dominate the clerical class. They were second in importance and wealth to the Shah. They were a nobility of their own. In 1979 they took power.

Arab Shia Ulama
After the conquest, Ismail began transforming the religious landscape of Iran by imposing Twelver Shiism on the populace. Since most of the population embraced Sunni Islam and since an educated version of Shiism was scarce in Iran at the time, Ismail imported a new Shia Ulama corps from traditional Shiite centers of the Arabic speaking lands, largely from Jabal Amil (of Southern Lebanon), Mount Lebanon, Syria, Eastern Arabia and Southern Iraq in order to create a state clergy.[37][38][39][40]Ismail offered them land and money in return for loyalty. These scholars taught the doctrine of Twelver Shiism and made it accessible to the population and energetically encouraged conversion to Shiism.[34][41][42][43] To emphasize how scarce Twelver Shiism was then to be found in Iran, a chronicler tells us that only one Shia text could be found in Ismail’s capital Tabriz.[44] Thus it is questionable whether Ismail and his followers could have succeeded in forcing a whole people to adopt a new faith without the support of the Arab Shiite scholars.[36] The rulers of Safavid Persia also invited these foreign Shiite religious scholars to their court in order to provide legitimacy for their own rule over Persia.[45]

Abbas I of Persia, during his reign, also imported more Arab Shia Ulama to Iran, built religious institutions for them, including many Madrasahs (religious schools) and successfully persuaded them to participate in the government, which they had shunned in the past (following the Hidden imam doctrine).[46]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_Shia_Islam

Most of Southern Iran (Persian heartland and their origin) has very close historical ties to neighboring Eastern Arabia and Iraq and people from those regions have been intermarrying since time immortal.

You are Shias thanks to Arabs. Just like you became Sunnis thanks to Arabs.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Your countrymen brought this useless disscution here and I proved you are not even Turks but turkified/Persianized since Seljuk empire.

We're going round in circles here. I said, for the millionth time already, it doesn't matter if we are all full blooded Persians or Iranian. People around the world will call us TURKS.
What do we share with Persians? I know nothing about Persians. I don't even know if they speak their own language or not.

Plus Azeris are pure Iranian people.

There're two types of Azeris. Turks and non-Turks.

All of Southeastern Turkey, including areas inhabited by Turkish Arabs, are full of ancient Semitic historical sites,

Zero semitic influence in Anatolia. Just like zero Kurdish or Persian influence . lol

 

[TurkeyForever]

even Ashkenazi Jews are not descended from the historical Israelites of antiquity, but from Khazars, a Turkic People

the Khazars (who converted to Judaism in the 8th century) migrated westwards into Eastern Europe ( Russia , Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, Hungary and Germany ) from north of the Black Sea and Caspian Sea
in the 12th and 13th centuries when the Khazar Empire was collapsing

Bro Ashkenaz is in Turkey =

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/most-jews-descended-ancient-turkey-new-study-2107639949

They are Turks (From Turkey) Then they moved to Khazaria.

I myself have roots from my mothers side in Khazaria.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Zero semitic influence in Anatolia. Just like zero Kurdish or Persian influence . lol

That's a joke.

All of Southern Anatolia and Southeastern Anatolia is full of Semitic heritage. Tons of cities have Semitic origins. Parts of Southeastern Anatolia (modern-day Turkey) was part of historical Mesopotamia.

You don't seem familiar with this part of Turkey.

Syriacs in Turkey (Turkish: Türkiye'deki Süryaniler) are an indigenous Semitic ethnic group and minority of Turkey (and also northern Iraq and northeast Syria) with a presence in the region dating to as far back as the 25th century BC, making them the oldest ethnic group in the nation. Some regions of what is now south eastern Turkey were an integral part of Mesopotamia from the 25th century BC to the 7th century AD, including its final capital, Harran.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Assyrians

Yes, expect for Turks from Anatolia having close genetic ties, being heavily influenced by Arabs and Semites throughout history (just under the Ottoman era let alone before), Ottoman Turkish being basically Arabic, Turkish language still retaining 1000's of words of Arabic origin (more than any other foreign language) and the impact of Islam. Millions of Turks have names of Arabic origin. Is Mehmet not the most popular name in Turkey?

Bro Ashkenaz is in Turkey =

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/most-jews-descended-ancient-turkey-new-study-2107639949

They are Turks (From Turkey) Then they moved to Khazaria.

I myself have roots from my mothers side in Khazaria.

Read about how Arabs defeated the Khazars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab–Khazar_wars

You are welcome.

 

[Attila the Hun]

the Khazars (who converted to Judaism in the 8th century)

The Khazars did not convert to Judaism . This isa myth created by the Jews and Arabs. Only the elite Khazarians converted. The average NOMADIC khazar did not. Are there even any Synagogues in Ukraine from the time of Khazars? I doubt it.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

The Khazars did not convert to Judaism . This isa myth created by the Jews and Arabs. Only the elite Khazarians converted. The average NOMADIC khazar did not. Are there even any Synagogues in Ukraine from the time of Khazars? I doubt it.

It's indeed a lie. Khazars and Semitic Middle Eastern Jews had close to no ties other than some Jews settling in Khazaria (just like some Arabs did after conquests of part of their territory).

This has already been disproven by modern-day genetic tests. Askhenazi Jews actually have Middle Eastern DNA.

They are heavily inbreed though as expected of such a small community.

They descent from only 350 people.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-descend-from-350-people-study-finds/

 

[Attila the Hun]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Assyrians

Do Assyrians even consider themselves to be semitic at all? No. They actually hate you. They hate all things Arab.

Assyrians left nothing in Anatolia. Nothing worth seeing. That's the truth.

As for language. You also have a lot of Turkish words too..I know because I have had some Arab friends

 

[MMM-E]

Read about how Arabs defeated the Khazars.

You wikipedia boy

TURKS came from Central Asia and conquered India ,Iran,Anatolia,Arabian Peninsula,Egypt and 1/3 of Europe
all Arabs ,Jews , Persians , Greeks and many more nations were ruled by the TURKS for centuries

This has already been disproven by modern-day genetic tests. Askhenazi Jews actually have Middle Eastern DNA.

nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
most of Askhenazi Jews have haplogroup R ....

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Do Assyrians even consider themselves to be semitic at all? No. They actually hate you. They hate all things Arab.

Assyrians left nothing in Anatolia. Nothing worth seeing. That's the truth.

As for language. You also have a lot of Turkish words too..I know because I have had some Arab friends

They are linguistically, culturally and genetically a Semitic people native to the Arab Near East. So, yes. Our pre-Islamic religions (not including the Semitic Abrahamic Judaism and Christianity) had a lot in common with ancient Assyrian (pre-Abrahamic) Semitic religions and we worshipped the same Gods from Yemen to Southern Anatolia.

Not at all. Assyrians are very nationalist people and under the time of Saddam Hussein they were overrepresented. Some of the biggest Arab nationalists in history were Assyrians, Christian Arabs, Druze and other Semitic peoples.

They hate Kurds though. A lot. Because Kurds committed genocide against them. Most recently Assyrians and Iraqi Arabs have fought side by side against Kurdish terrorists in Iraq. I have Assyrians in my distant family.

Yes, there are some Turkish loanwords in a few Arabic dialects but the influence (linguistic in this case) was much bigger the other way around.

 

[TurkeyForever]

Read about how Arabs defeated the Khazars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab–Khazar_wars

You are welcome.

Ask your goat if she had an affair with me haha

 

[Saif al-Arab]

You wikipedia boy

TURKS came from Central Asia and conquered India ,Iran,Anatolia,Arabian Peninsula,Egypt and 1/3 of Europe
all Arabs ,Jews , Persians , Greeks and many more nations were ruled by the TURKS for centuries



nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

You are hallucinating. Turks never conquered Arabia. Only Hijaz was nominally controlled. 1/3 of Europe? Are you drunk? Did you know that 80% of all Europeans descent from what is today the Arab world (Arab Near East)? Neolithic people? Read about this. A simple google search.
Do you know that you are not an ethnic Turk genetically as in an ethnic Turk from Central Asia? In fact the real Turks of Central Asia were slaves and mercenaries of Arabs and others (Chinese too) for centuries and for the past 300-400 years they have been at the mercy of Russians, Chinese etc. Look at Mongols today. They had their heydays for some 100 years (only relevancy in history) and today they have nothing and are nothing.

Mughals were not Turks. They were Mongols. Khan is a Mongol surname too. Not Turkic.

Why do you continue to live a lie?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Turkish_people

You can be a Turk linguistically and culturally (what you consider it today - 100 years of Ataturk reforms changed Turkish society completely - 200 years ago it was a totally different one much more close to Arabic culture back then) but don't pretend that you are an ethnic Turk as in a Turk from Central Asia. Only a tiny amount of Turks in Turkey can claim that and I doubt that you will find a single pure one expect for recent migrants from Central Asia. All my Turkish friends, they look like other Middle Eastern people and a world apart from Central Asian Turks. It's like saying that Sudanese and Saudi Arabians are the same just because both are known as "Arabs" today. Does not work like that.