Egyptian MP begins campaign to extend presidential term

[HannibalBarca]

Arabs never fail to amaze me... never...
Masters of S&M


MP tables motion to lift restrictions on re-election and extend terms of office, year before Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's first term due to end

Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's current term as president ends in 2018 (AFP)

An Egyptian MP started collecting signatures on Sunday for a motion to extend presidential terms and lift restrictions on re-election, a year before general-turned-president Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's first term is due to expire.

The move by independent MP Ismail Nasreddine to amend article 140 of the constitution would, if successful, enable Sisi to stay in power longer than the two four-year terms currently permitted.

The process is still at an early stage. Nasreddine will need the support of 20 percent of MPs to table a discussion on the issue in parliament.

"It will be the right of the president to nominate himself for the office as he wishes ... and the right of the people to choose him or reject him," Nasreddine told reporters, adding that he would begin putting the idea to lawmakers on Sunday.

Even if he is able to push an amendment through parliament by the required two-thirds majority, the constitution also stipulates that any revision be approved by popular referendum.

As defence minister, Sisi overthrew elected president Mohamed Morsi, of the Muslim Brotherhood, in mid-2013 and launched a crackdown on Egypt's oldest Islamist movement.

Sisi, now 62, went on to win a presidential election in 2014. He has not said whether he will seek re-election when his current term ends in 2018, but has made much of his popular mandate and has promised to respect the will of Egyptians.

There was no immediate comment from Sisi's office on the proposed amendment.

Sisi has sought to roll back freedoms won during the 2011 uprising that ended Hosni Mubarak's 30-year rule, promising to restore stability to Egyptians fed up with years of political tumult.

The right to protest has been restricted, and democracy and rights groups say they face growing government pressure and accuse Sisi of clamping down on political expression.

Egypt's last parliamentary elections took place in late 2015, ushering in the first lawmakers since an Islamist-dominated parliament elected after the 2011 revolt was dissolved by a court in 2012.

The elections saw an electoral bloc loyal to Sisi sweep to victory. On the eve of those elections, the head of the pro-Sisi bloc told Reuters loyalist MPs would likely seek to amend the constitution to further empower the presidency and scale back powers vested in parliament.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egyptian-mp-begins-campaign-extend-presidential-term-1038215698

 

[ultron]

Meh. We all know he's president for life so what's the big fuss about it?

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Arabs never fail to amaze me... never...
Masters of S&M


MP tables motion to lift restrictions on re-election and extend terms of office, year before Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's first term due to end

Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's current term as president ends in 2018 (AFP)

An Egyptian MP started collecting signatures on Sunday for a motion to extend presidential terms and lift restrictions on re-election, a year before general-turned-president Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's first term is due to expire.

The move by independent MP Ismail Nasreddine to amend article 140 of the constitution would, if successful, enable Sisi to stay in power longer than the two four-year terms currently permitted.

The process is still at an early stage. Nasreddine will need the support of 20 percent of MPs to table a discussion on the issue in parliament.

"It will be the right of the president to nominate himself for the office as he wishes ... and the right of the people to choose him or reject him," Nasreddine told reporters, adding that he would begin putting the idea to lawmakers on Sunday.

Even if he is able to push an amendment through parliament by the required two-thirds majority, the constitution also stipulates that any revision be approved by popular referendum.

As defence minister, Sisi overthrew elected president Mohamed Morsi, of the Muslim Brotherhood, in mid-2013 and launched a crackdown on Egypt's oldest Islamist movement.

Sisi, now 62, went on to win a presidential election in 2014. He has not said whether he will seek re-election when his current term ends in 2018, but has made much of his popular mandate and has promised to respect the will of Egyptians.

There was no immediate comment from Sisi's office on the proposed amendment.

Sisi has sought to roll back freedoms won during the 2011 uprising that ended Hosni Mubarak's 30-year rule, promising to restore stability to Egyptians fed up with years of political tumult.

The right to protest has been restricted, and democracy and rights groups say they face growing government pressure and accuse Sisi of clamping down on political expression.

Egypt's last parliamentary elections took place in late 2015, ushering in the first lawmakers since an Islamist-dominated parliament elected after the 2011 revolt was dissolved by a court in 2012.

The elections saw an electoral bloc loyal to Sisi sweep to victory. On the eve of those elections, the head of the pro-Sisi bloc told Reuters loyalist MPs would likely seek to amend the constitution to further empower the presidency and scale back powers vested in parliament.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egyptian-mp-begins-campaign-extend-presidential-term-1038215698

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!

 

[HannibalBarca]

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!

Have Fun

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Don't worry, the Arab Spring has only just begun.

 

[Sargon of Akkad]

Don't worry, the Arab Spring has only just begun.

That's exactly what will occur. Very few countries (regimes in other words), except for Tunisia, Morocco and a few others, learnt any lesson from the Arab Spring. Status quo will not be tolerated forever and it is just a question of time before things erupt again. Hopefully once and for all if it will occur. We cannot have entire regimes and a powerful minority that benefits from those regimes directly hijacking entire countries and their nearby future due to greed, nepotism etc.

The rise of Putin and Trump won't help in this regard or the West/world turning inwards and towards the right.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

That's exactly what will occur. Very few countries (regimes in other words), except for Tunisia, Morocco and a few others, learnt any lesson from the Arab Spring. Status quo will not be tolerated forever and it is just a question of time before things erupt again. Hopefully once and for all if it will occur. We cannot have select regimes hijacking entire countries and their nearby future.

The rise of Putin and Trump won't help in this regard or the West/world turning inwards and towards the right.

I think we should just purge the current government,military(air force can stay), and Police of Egypt. All are far to corrupt, you need to rebuild Egypt from the Foundations to make sure Changes stay.

Also by Foundations, I mean the very basis of Egyptian society too.

@Frogman @MICA @Amun

What do you guys think of this?

 

[Kambojaric]

Well given the history of the country and the wider region, this is hardly surprising news.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

I think we should just purge the current government,military(air force can stay), and Police of Egypt. All are far to corrupt, you need to rebuild Egypt from the Foundations to make sure Changes stay.

Also by Foundations, I mean the very basis of Egyptian society too.

@Frogman @MICA @Amun

What do you guys think of this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_destruction

 

[HAIDER]

Arabs never fail to amaze me... never...
Masters of S&M


MP tables motion to lift restrictions on re-election and extend terms of office, year before Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's first term due to end

Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's current term as president ends in 2018 (AFP)

An Egyptian MP started collecting signatures on Sunday for a motion to extend presidential terms and lift restrictions on re-election, a year before general-turned-president Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's first term is due to expire.

The move by independent MP Ismail Nasreddine to amend article 140 of the constitution would, if successful, enable Sisi to stay in power longer than the two four-year terms currently permitted.

The process is still at an early stage. Nasreddine will need the support of 20 percent of MPs to table a discussion on the issue in parliament.

"It will be the right of the president to nominate himself for the office as he wishes ... and the right of the people to choose him or reject him," Nasreddine told reporters, adding that he would begin putting the idea to lawmakers on Sunday.

Even if he is able to push an amendment through parliament by the required two-thirds majority, the constitution also stipulates that any revision be approved by popular referendum.

As defence minister, Sisi overthrew elected president Mohamed Morsi, of the Muslim Brotherhood, in mid-2013 and launched a crackdown on Egypt's oldest Islamist movement.

Sisi, now 62, went on to win a presidential election in 2014. He has not said whether he will seek re-election when his current term ends in 2018, but has made much of his popular mandate and has promised to respect the will of Egyptians.

There was no immediate comment from Sisi's office on the proposed amendment.

Sisi has sought to roll back freedoms won during the 2011 uprising that ended Hosni Mubarak's 30-year rule, promising to restore stability to Egyptians fed up with years of political tumult.

The right to protest has been restricted, and democracy and rights groups say they face growing government pressure and accuse Sisi of clamping down on political expression.

Egypt's last parliamentary elections took place in late 2015, ushering in the first lawmakers since an Islamist-dominated parliament elected after the 2011 revolt was dissolved by a court in 2012.

The elections saw an electoral bloc loyal to Sisi sweep to victory. On the eve of those elections, the head of the pro-Sisi bloc told Reuters loyalist MPs would likely seek to amend the constitution to further empower the presidency and scale back powers vested in parliament.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egyptian-mp-begins-campaign-extend-presidential-term-1038215698

What do you think small contingent of Turkish army took over whole arab world and built Ottoman empire.

Arabs never fail to amaze me... never...
Masters of S&M


MP tables motion to lift restrictions on re-election and extend terms of office, year before Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's first term due to end

Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's current term as president ends in 2018 (AFP)

An Egyptian MP started collecting signatures on Sunday for a motion to extend presidential terms and lift restrictions on re-election, a year before general-turned-president Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's first term is due to expire.

The move by independent MP Ismail Nasreddine to amend article 140 of the constitution would, if successful, enable Sisi to stay in power longer than the two four-year terms currently permitted.

The process is still at an early stage. Nasreddine will need the support of 20 percent of MPs to table a discussion on the issue in parliament.

"It will be the right of the president to nominate himself for the office as he wishes ... and the right of the people to choose him or reject him," Nasreddine told reporters, adding that he would begin putting the idea to lawmakers on Sunday.

Even if he is able to push an amendment through parliament by the required two-thirds majority, the constitution also stipulates that any revision be approved by popular referendum.

As defence minister, Sisi overthrew elected president Mohamed Morsi, of the Muslim Brotherhood, in mid-2013 and launched a crackdown on Egypt's oldest Islamist movement.

Sisi, now 62, went on to win a presidential election in 2014. He has not said whether he will seek re-election when his current term ends in 2018, but has made much of his popular mandate and has promised to respect the will of Egyptians.

There was no immediate comment from Sisi's office on the proposed amendment.

Sisi has sought to roll back freedoms won during the 2011 uprising that ended Hosni Mubarak's 30-year rule, promising to restore stability to Egyptians fed up with years of political tumult.

The right to protest has been restricted, and democracy and rights groups say they face growing government pressure and accuse Sisi of clamping down on political expression.

Egypt's last parliamentary elections took place in late 2015, ushering in the first lawmakers since an Islamist-dominated parliament elected after the 2011 revolt was dissolved by a court in 2012.

The elections saw an electoral bloc loyal to Sisi sweep to victory. On the eve of those elections, the head of the pro-Sisi bloc told Reuters loyalist MPs would likely seek to amend the constitution to further empower the presidency and scale back powers vested in parliament.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egyptian-mp-begins-campaign-extend-presidential-term-1038215698

Sisi is not going anywhere next 10 years or may be more.

 

[Frogman]

What do you guys think of this?

I'm reserving my judgement till later since it's early doors but I would be totally against extending Presidential terms and allowing one individual more than two terms.

Just for clarification, first this Minister has to collect signatures amounting to 25% of the house before it can go up for discussion. Then if it is put to the vote it must obviously pass with a majority in the house. Last step is that it be put to a public referendum since it would be a constitutional amendment.

I would start getting worried if it's passed in the house but if it gets to a referendum and Egyptians vote in favour then I really can't say anything other than they deserve the idiocy that currently grips the nation at almost all levels.

 

[azzo]

I'm reserving my judgement till later since it's early doors but I would be totally against extending Presidential terms and allowing one individual more than two terms.

Just for clarification, first this Minister has to collect signatures amounting to 25% of the house before it can go up for discussion. Then if it is put to the vote it must obviously pass with a majority in the house. Last step is that it be put to a public referendum since it would be a constitutional amendment.

I would start getting worried if it's passed in the house but if it gets to a referendum and Egyptians vote in favour then I really can't say anything other than they deserve the idiocy that currently grips the nation at almost all levels.

You can go over all of this political and constitutional mumbo jambo but at the end we all know how Egyptian democracy works :

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Just make a public announcement that you have a 110 million signature for the term extension then do it

 

[mike2000 is back]

Hmmm..... Depends if president sisi just wants more time to stabilise the country in the war of the revolution and subsequent political turmoil the country went through.if that's the case then this extension isn't that bad. However if it's just to perpetuate his rule forever then this is troubling and should be rejected.

 

[HannibalBarca]

I'm reserving my judgement till later since it's early doors but I would be totally against extending Presidential terms and allowing one individual more than two terms.

Just for clarification, first this Minister has to collect signatures amounting to 25% of the house before it can go up for discussion. Then if it is put to the vote it must obviously pass with a majority in the house. Last step is that it be put to a public referendum since it would be a constitutional amendment.

I would start getting worried if it's passed in the house but if it gets to a referendum and Egyptians vote in favour then I really can't say anything other than they deserve the idiocy that currently grips the nation at almost all levels.

If Sissi rly want a FULL democracy in EGypt, he would have asked him to stop his behavior. I think Sissi is using it as a test, to see how Egyptian will react to this. If he sees too much opposition from the population and key figure, he will stop that, But if the reaction is not that bad, he will let him continue and see what will be the outcome.

 

[Frogman]

If Sissi rly want a FULL democracy in EGypt, he would have asked him to stop his behavior. I think Sissi is using it as a test, to see how Egyptian will react to this. If he sees too much opposition from the population and key figure, he will stop that, But if the reaction is not that bad, he will let him continue and see what will be the outcome.

Even if that was the case or even possible I would be against it. It would set a bad precedent for our nascent and fragile democracy.

The Presidency should have no right to interfere in the workings of Parliament or a single MP. To do so would breach the constitution and violate one of the most sacred tenants of a true democracy, the separation of powers.

The process should be played out without interference from any other institution unless they have a constitutional or legal right to do so. Ultimately it will be put to the people or stopped by their supposed representatives.