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Never knew Egypt still uses MLRS platform ...come to think of it, would probably be very useful in the desert...lol....
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Really useful anywhere not just in deserts!!!!!!
I think I see where you are coming from yes they are not so useful in gorrilla warfare which is the most common type of warfare nowadays (because of civilians etc) but
it is really extremely u in the traditional warfare who would hate lying wast to the enemies positions in seconds from a safe distance and getting the hell out before the enemy even relies they are being targeted.
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Egypt state TV in Today's news report regarding the modernization of the Egyptian armed forces :
Latest arms deals include 29' Sukhoi-**
News was emerged since 2010 that Egypt was interested in acquiring Su-35 + Mig-35
https://defence.pk/threads/egyptian-armed-forces.103456/page-14
https://defence.pk/threads/egypt-in-negotiations-for-su-35-and-mig-35.284651/
EAF newest jets in its service are :
F-16 block52
Rafale
Mig-35
Su-35
Still 50+ Ka-52 helicopters to come with **Il-76MD-90A and **A400M
The recent arm deals put Egypt in The Top 10 military power
Latest arms deals include 29' Sukhoi-**
News was emerged since 2010 that Egypt was interested in acquiring Su-35 + Mig-35
https://defence.pk/threads/egyptian-armed-forces.103456/page-14
https://defence.pk/threads/egypt-in-negotiations-for-su-35-and-mig-35.284651/
EAF newest jets in its service are :
F-16 block52
Rafale
Mig-35
Su-35
Still 50+ Ka-52 helicopters to come with **Il-76MD-90A and **A400M
The recent arm deals put Egypt in The Top 10 military power
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Any information about delivery dates ??Egypt state TV in Today's news report regarding the modernization of the Egyptian armed forces :
Latest arms deals include 29' Sukhoi-**
News was emerged since 2010 that Egypt was interested in acquiring Su-35 + Mig-35
https://defence.pk/threads/egyptian-armed-forces.103456/page-14
https://defence.pk/threads/egypt-in-negotiations-for-su-35-and-mig-35.284651/
EAF newest jets in its service are :
F-16 block52
Rafale
Mig-35
Su-35
Still 50+ Ka-52 helicopters to come with **Il-76MD-90A and **A400M
The recent arm deals put Egypt in The Top 10 military power
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The video says MIG-29 not 35.
MIG-35 ener service 2017 plus it is going to be more expensive waht do you think.
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Since few month ago i said Egypt have another choices MIG-29 , SU-30/35 no body wane understand after two month in Farnborough Air Show
Russian said Egypt negotiate For MIG-29M2 and SU35 with Russian
china in 2009 offer J-10A for $30 million and Egypt not interest in performance J-10A
also not first time chines J-10A lost competition must remember Myanmar Air force last year and MiG-29 defeats J-10 in its first overseas bout
last offer for Russian for Mig-29m2 for Egypt offer Zauke AE Aesa FGA35 Radar included and Better OLS competitor can't offer same level of technology for only $35 million
logical choice for Egypt as AOI head assonance since one year ago that Egypt will build fighter Chinese or Russian MIG-29M2 OR MiG-35 Frame and improved french avionics and import engines from Russia by this way we can get good fighter for cheap money 35-40 millions with advanced version for MiG-29
also Russian offer integrate Western weapons or chines weapons or avionic in Egyptian fighter
French offer Rafale 2 times for Egypt once 1997 and again 2005 for $75 millions but we need big number of fighter so Russian solution for MIG-29/SU-35 will be fit for Egypt financial and budget echo
Indian SU-30 for $76 million true but for delivery 2017 and for Silent SU-30 SE Edition pulse AESA developed in India price for fighter different for time and quantity price for 20 different for price for 80 and Russian offer SU-35 With Irbis-E radar Not AESA and OLS-35 for $60 for 2013 delivery
and Algeria since July-2010 purchase SU-30 delivery 2012 for $50-56.25 million
we need fighter against F-16I and F-15I and future F-35 not only replace old cheap fighter our yearly military budget over $6.5 Billion can cover good number for SU-35 and MIG-29/35 so small fighter will not can stand against Israel fighters
we can't purchase 150 Rafale over 5 year so only available is russian with better quilty request and Russian need recover Egyptian client
other echo Russian send $2.5 million tourism for Egypt yearly mean $2.5 billion pulse open Russian market for Egyptian product like agriculture , medicine and Egyptian furniture there is good balance of trade better than Chinese they don't want import Egyptian product why we need them must Chinese be out
Egypt already finish deal with Russian but with no announcement also Russian since 2005 for first deal for MIG-29SMT offer Maintenance center build in Egypt for overhaul Russian fighter in Egypt so logical choice continue with Russian and Russian do what they said
Russia to Build Combat Airplane Service Centers in Three Regions of the World
Russia plans the creation of a number of service and maintenance centers in Asia, Africa and Latin America, where counterpart enterprises already exist, according to RIA Novosti, Rosoboronehksport director Aleksandr Mikheev made this declaration an interview with in the Ehksport Vooruzheniya ((Arms Export)) publication, which will be published next week
According to Mikheev, three service and maintenance centers are being created in Asia for servicing of Su-30 Russian fighters. In the Asian and Pacific Ocean regions 45 already are functioning and it is planned to create 7 more enterprises which will be able to provide major and intermediate overhaul of Russian manufactured aircraft equipment.
On the African continent - the Algeria, Ethiopia and Egypt - five have been created and three enterprises are planned which will provide major and intermediate overhaul
dated 30.07.09,
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Russia to Cooperate with Egypt in Development of Transport Airplane
Today, as the result of the 7th meeting of the joint Russo-Egyptian commission on economic cooperation, the Russian Federation minister of industry and trade, Viktor Khristenko, announced that Russia will cooperate with Egypt in the area of creating a transport airplane.
As the AVIA.RU correspondent reports, Mr. Khristenko reported that the cooperation is planned within the framework of the development both of heavy and of light transport airplanes. According to him, all possible variants will be studied.
Also, Viktor Khristenko reported that Russia in the future may not only make export services available for new airplanes, but also implement transport services themselves.
Source: 03.06.09
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not only Egypt looking for other choice Turkish join to Koran KFX program pulse Indonesia future conflict need powerful fighter we don't need coffin
South Korea and Indonesia to start a joint project on KFX jet fighter
Turkey, Indonesia to join KF-X program
Turkey could join Korea’s fighter plan 8 Sep 2010 By Jung Sung-ki GYEONGJU, North Gyeongsang Province ― Turkey has shown a strong interest in joining Korea’s KF-X fighter development plan, after having already won investment from Indonesia, a chief of the military's aircraft programs said. Maj. Gen. Choi Cha-kyu, director general of the aircraft program bureau at the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA), said during a forum here Tuesday that Ankara is seriously considering participating in the KF-X program to replace its 180 older F-16 aircraft by 2020. “Turkey’s air force operates about 180 F-16 aircraft, and there will be a requirement to replace the older fighters with newer ones by 2020,” the two-star Air Force general said. “Once on board, Turkey is expected to bear the same amount of development costs as Indonesia.” Cha said the KF-X, which was initiated in 2002 but postponed due to financial and technological problems, will start next year with the consent of budget authorities. Industry sources say Turkey’s participation in the KF-X project could result in a barter deal. Ankara wants Seoul to consider its T-129 helicopter, under development for the Turkish Army, as a candidate for the AH-X heavy attack helicopter acquisition program. The KF-X program calls for developing an indigenous fighter similar to the latest F-16 by 2022 with financial support from foreign nations or defense companies. About 120 KF-Xs would be built initially and more than 130 aircraft would be produced additionally after the first-phase models reach operational capability. Korea will foot 60 percent of the KF-X development costs worth some 5 trillion won ($4.2 billion), with the balance to come from other governments or corporate partners in a “risk sharing” attempt. Under a memorandum of understanding (MOU) signed on July 15, Indonesia agreed to bear 20 percent of the bill and buy about 50 KF-X planes when mass production begins. The production costs after the development phase are estimated to be about 6 trillion won. Korea is seeking to receive relevant technology transfers from U.S. and European aerospace firms. Possible corporate partners include Boeing and Lockheed Martin of the United States, the European defense group EADS and Sweden’s Saab. The original proposal for the KF-X was to develop a fifth-generation stealth fighter, something that is in between the Dassault Rafale or Eurofighter Typhoon and the Lockheed Martin F-35. Amid controversy over the feasibility of the original plan, the DAPA commissioned a second study in April last year to the Weapons Systems Concept Development and Application Research Center of Konkuk University. The center then recommended a plan to develop an F-16 type aircraft fitted with the AESA radar, an electronic warfare suite and data link systems fit for a network-centric environment. The think tank also recommended the jet to have a combat radius about 1.5 times that of the F-16, an airframe life span 1.34 times longer than that of the F-16 and better avionics than that of the F-16 Block 50. Among other required capabilities are a thrust of 50,000 pounds, provided by either one or two engines, super-velocity intercept and supercruise capabilities, and the ability to hit targets in the air, on land and at sea. Israel and other countries that have F-16s may join this KF-X fighter development.
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last super power country not allow for Chinese fighter real competition they allow for small deal not for big deal and they go down for price and higher
level of technology
And smart Korean build product for market need with good investment in technology so they get easy market share this is the idea
Source: https://defence.pk/threads/export-b...fighter-aircraft.141375/page-16#ixzz4B5sEtkxS
https://defence.pk/threads/export-b...-fighter-aircraft.141375/page-16#post-1146355
After what has been the destruction of Iraq by the US and Iran and the occurrence of Syria captive to Iran and the Turkish threat has to be that the monster of Egypt to defend the Middle East and make Iran and Turkey in horror from the Egyptian military capability so it is natural that the pace of arming the Egyptian army rises in all directions and re-Middle Order East again,
we are not just arm ourselves but also pave the coming battle and convey Today Turkey into civil war and become trapped enemies from every direction and Iran also will be included in internal conflicts this inevitable and Iraq breaks the Shiites now in order to accept everyone peaceful coexistence and the expulsion of Iran's cells from Iraq if the trooper peace that entails the return of the Egyptian military capability to a previous ability so everyone needs to be boundaries and natural years ago to look for military diversity to deter everyone but the Egyptian military plan also includes expanding ballistic Egyptian ability and get launchers such as the SU-34M in the near future to integrate the Egyptian defense capability of all and knows that the Middle East there to protect it from the ambitions of neighboring countries
Many people are talking about Does Egypt got a MiG-29 or MiG-35 Egypt has not accepted the Russian and Chinese equipment standard specifications for the simple reason we are used 30 years ago on the use of Western quality standards
Is Egypt would accept the MiG-old less than 8,000 hours of flight structure and the same thing for the Sukhoi and whether we will accept a limited level of TBO engines or structures
When Egypt is heading for the eastern weapon required the highest quality standards
We ask, as we did with the K-8E longest-old 14,000 flight hours instead of 8000 hours of flight time Chinese K-8 version
We have accepted the US engine instead of the engine AL-25
And we have added 33 modification structurally the same thought apply it on the MiG and Sukhois we ultimately pay the price of the weapon, so we are asking the highest level of quality and the Egyptian negotiations Russia regarding the level of reliability, quality and efficiency of the weapon from the ground and always the Russians are asking from Egypt price is higher than other countries as a result of Egyptian demands when Moscow was selling MiG-29 to BURMA $ 28 million offered to the plane on Egypt specifications requested by Egypt at a price of $ 35 million as an example of different capacity and different price in 2010 prices rose and capacity also increased for jets
[
Since few month ago i said Egypt have another choices MIG-29 , SU-30/35 no body wane understand after two month in Farnborough Air Show
Russian said Egypt negotiate For MIG-29M2 and SU35 with Russian
china in 2009 offer J-10A for $30 million and Egypt not interest in performance J-10A
also not first time chines J-10A lost competition must remember Myanmar Air force last year and MiG-29 defeats J-10 in its first overseas bout
last offer for Russian for Mig-29m2 for Egypt offer Zauke AE Aesa FGA35 Radar included and Better OLS competitor can't offer same level of technology for only $35 million
logical choice for Egypt as AOI head assonance since one year ago that Egypt will build fighter Chinese or Russian MIG-29M2 OR MiG-35 Frame and improved french avionics and import engines from Russia by this way we can get good fighter for cheap money 35-40 millions with advanced version for MiG-29
also Russian offer integrate Western weapons or chines weapons or avionic in Egyptian fighter
French offer Rafale 2 times for Egypt once 1997 and again 2005 for $75 millions but we need big number of fighter so Russian solution for MIG-29/SU-35 will be fit for Egypt financial and budget echo
Indian SU-30 for $76 million true but for delivery 2017 and for Silent SU-30 SE Edition pulse AESA developed in India price for fighter different for time and quantity price for 20 different for price for 80 and Russian offer SU-35 With Irbis-E radar Not AESA and OLS-35 for $60 for 2013 delivery
and Algeria since July-2010 purchase SU-30 delivery 2012 for $50-56.25 million
we need fighter against F-16I and F-15I and future F-35 not only replace old cheap fighter our yearly military budget over $6.5 Billion can cover good number for SU-35 and MIG-29/35 so small fighter will not can stand against Israel fighters
we can't purchase 150 Rafale over 5 year so only available is russian with better quilty request and Russian need recover Egyptian client
other echo Russian send $2.5 million tourism for Egypt yearly mean $2.5 billion pulse open Russian market for Egyptian product like agriculture , medicine and Egyptian furniture there is good balance of trade better than Chinese they don't want import Egyptian product why we need them must Chinese be out
Egypt already finish deal with Russian but with no announcement also Russian since 2005 for first deal for MIG-29SMT offer Maintenance center build in Egypt for overhaul Russian fighter in Egypt so logical choice continue with Russian and Russian do what they said
Russia to Build Combat Airplane Service Centers in Three Regions of the World
Russia plans the creation of a number of service and maintenance centers in Asia, Africa and Latin America, where counterpart enterprises already exist, according to RIA Novosti, Rosoboronehksport director Aleksandr Mikheev made this declaration an interview with in the Ehksport Vooruzheniya ((Arms Export)) publication, which will be published next week
According to Mikheev, three service and maintenance centers are being created in Asia for servicing of Su-30 Russian fighters. In the Asian and Pacific Ocean regions 45 already are functioning and it is planned to create 7 more enterprises which will be able to provide major and intermediate overhaul of Russian manufactured aircraft equipment.
On the African continent - the Algeria, Ethiopia and Egypt - five have been created and three enterprises are planned which will provide major and intermediate overhaul
dated 30.07.09,
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Pulse
Russia to Cooperate with Egypt in Development of Transport Airplane
Today, as the result of the 7th meeting of the joint Russo-Egyptian commission on economic cooperation, the Russian Federation minister of industry and trade, Viktor Khristenko, announced that Russia will cooperate with Egypt in the area of creating a transport airplane.
As the AVIA.RU correspondent reports, Mr. Khristenko reported that the cooperation is planned within the framework of the development both of heavy and of light transport airplanes. According to him, all possible variants will be studied.
Also, Viktor Khristenko reported that Russia in the future may not only make export services available for new airplanes, but also implement transport services themselves.
Source: 03.06.09
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not only Egypt looking for other choice Turkish join to Koran KFX program pulse Indonesia future conflict need powerful fighter we don't need coffin
South Korea and Indonesia to start a joint project on KFX jet fighter
Turkey, Indonesia to join KF-X program
Turkey could join Korea’s fighter plan 8 Sep 2010 By Jung Sung-ki GYEONGJU, North Gyeongsang Province ― Turkey has shown a strong interest in joining Korea’s KF-X fighter development plan, after having already won investment from Indonesia, a chief of the military's aircraft programs said. Maj. Gen. Choi Cha-kyu, director general of the aircraft program bureau at the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA), said during a forum here Tuesday that Ankara is seriously considering participating in the KF-X program to replace its 180 older F-16 aircraft by 2020. “Turkey’s air force operates about 180 F-16 aircraft, and there will be a requirement to replace the older fighters with newer ones by 2020,” the two-star Air Force general said. “Once on board, Turkey is expected to bear the same amount of development costs as Indonesia.” Cha said the KF-X, which was initiated in 2002 but postponed due to financial and technological problems, will start next year with the consent of budget authorities. Industry sources say Turkey’s participation in the KF-X project could result in a barter deal. Ankara wants Seoul to consider its T-129 helicopter, under development for the Turkish Army, as a candidate for the AH-X heavy attack helicopter acquisition program. The KF-X program calls for developing an indigenous fighter similar to the latest F-16 by 2022 with financial support from foreign nations or defense companies. About 120 KF-Xs would be built initially and more than 130 aircraft would be produced additionally after the first-phase models reach operational capability. Korea will foot 60 percent of the KF-X development costs worth some 5 trillion won ($4.2 billion), with the balance to come from other governments or corporate partners in a “risk sharing” attempt. Under a memorandum of understanding (MOU) signed on July 15, Indonesia agreed to bear 20 percent of the bill and buy about 50 KF-X planes when mass production begins. The production costs after the development phase are estimated to be about 6 trillion won. Korea is seeking to receive relevant technology transfers from U.S. and European aerospace firms. Possible corporate partners include Boeing and Lockheed Martin of the United States, the European defense group EADS and Sweden’s Saab. The original proposal for the KF-X was to develop a fifth-generation stealth fighter, something that is in between the Dassault Rafale or Eurofighter Typhoon and the Lockheed Martin F-35. Amid controversy over the feasibility of the original plan, the DAPA commissioned a second study in April last year to the Weapons Systems Concept Development and Application Research Center of Konkuk University. The center then recommended a plan to develop an F-16 type aircraft fitted with the AESA radar, an electronic warfare suite and data link systems fit for a network-centric environment. The think tank also recommended the jet to have a combat radius about 1.5 times that of the F-16, an airframe life span 1.34 times longer than that of the F-16 and better avionics than that of the F-16 Block 50. Among other required capabilities are a thrust of 50,000 pounds, provided by either one or two engines, super-velocity intercept and supercruise capabilities, and the ability to hit targets in the air, on land and at sea. Israel and other countries that have F-16s may join this KF-X fighter development.
Click to expand...
last super power country not allow for Chinese fighter real competition they allow for small deal not for big deal and they go down for price and higher
level of technology
And smart Korean build product for market need with good investment in technology so they get easy market share this is the idea
Source: https://defence.pk/threads/export-b...fighter-aircraft.141375/page-16#ixzz4B5sEtkxS
https://defence.pk/threads/export-b...-fighter-aircraft.141375/page-16#post-1146355
After what has been the destruction of Iraq by the US and Iran and the occurrence of Syria captive to Iran and the Turkish threat has to be that the monster of Egypt to defend the Middle East and make Iran and Turkey in horror from the Egyptian military capability so it is natural that the pace of arming the Egyptian army rises in all directions and re-Middle Order East again,
we are not just arm ourselves but also pave the coming battle and convey Today Turkey into civil war and become trapped enemies from every direction and Iran also will be included in internal conflicts this inevitable and Iraq breaks the Shiites now in order to accept everyone peaceful coexistence and the expulsion of Iran's cells from Iraq if the trooper peace that entails the return of the Egyptian military capability to a previous ability so everyone needs to be boundaries and natural years ago to look for military diversity to deter everyone but the Egyptian military plan also includes expanding ballistic Egyptian ability and get launchers such as the SU-34M in the near future to integrate the Egyptian defense capability of all and knows that the Middle East there to protect it from the ambitions of neighboring countries
Many people are talking about Does Egypt got a MiG-29 or MiG-35 Egypt has not accepted the Russian and Chinese equipment standard specifications for the simple reason we are used 30 years ago on the use of Western quality standards
Is Egypt would accept the MiG-old less than 8,000 hours of flight structure and the same thing for the Sukhoi and whether we will accept a limited level of TBO engines or structures
When Egypt is heading for the eastern weapon required the highest quality standards
We ask, as we did with the K-8E longest-old 14,000 flight hours instead of 8000 hours of flight time Chinese K-8 version
We have accepted the US engine instead of the engine AL-25
And we have added 33 modification structurally the same thought apply it on the MiG and Sukhois we ultimately pay the price of the weapon, so we are asking the highest level of quality and the Egyptian negotiations Russia regarding the level of reliability, quality and efficiency of the weapon from the ground and always the Russians are asking from Egypt price is higher than other countries as a result of Egyptian demands when Moscow was selling MiG-29 to BURMA $ 28 million offered to the plane on Egypt specifications requested by Egypt at a price of $ 35 million as an example of different capacity and different price in 2010 prices rose and capacity also increased for jets
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Concerning Mig-35 before the end of this year (2016)
Nothing has been yet released regarding Su-30/35
Yes it did say Mig-29 without mentioning what variant! That report didn't say it all ..
It even miswrote "Gowind"-class corvette by "Gomnid"!!
Anyway, Egypt's demands regarding Mig's specifications and the recent sources which have been released say otherwise.
As Mr. Sami says .. EAF got used to the western level of manufacturing and capabilities.
some reports say it will be Mig-29M/M2 other mention Mig-35
It's all about the technical specifications after all .. some have been released .. I'll put it later Insh'allah.
As for the cost ..
Really! It seems that you haven't been following the Egy deals in the recent 3 years!
That's it Then no place for this poor:
Among those monsters;..
Or do you think it yet has something to offer to EAF ?!!
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