Egyptian Armed Forces

[Mosamania]

Their Airforce n navy r toothless.

NO BVR,NO SUBS....

Subs of Egyptian Navy.
Three parked soviet romeo class subs.

They have 4 Subs in their inventory in talks for more subs as we speak.

 

[superNova]

They did in 1973 when they captured the Sinai, that is until when the Israelis surrounded their 6th (or was it 3rd) army.

a portion of egypt Sanai is still occupied by israel

also egypt combined with saudi arab, jordan, syria, lebanon, iraq failed in 1969 from tiny israel , HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Mosamania]

a portion of egypt Sanai is still occupied by israel

also egypt combined with saudi arab, jordan, syria, lebanon, iraq failed in 1969 from tiny israel , HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You need to badly review your history friend.....

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Subs of Egyptian Navy.
Three parked soviet romeo class subs.

They have 4 Subs in their inventory in talks for more subs as we speak.

Built in the 50s? i believe our midget subs r more advanced than these..............And no solid news abt sub purchase is there... except the moray we have been hearing since 2000.
No BVR means tht in the modern scenerio they r only good for air showns... the enemy will shoot u down frm a 120 miles and u cant do jack abt it... except run or crash n burn.


@super nova... saudis were not involved in the arab-israel wars.

 

[yousaf goebbels]

eqyptians did a very fine job with wire guided russian anti-tank rockets..and took back their land..soon palestinian will get back their land too

 

[superNova]

You need to badly review your history friend.....

why are you getting jealous, you are talking about pakistan's history??, you need to learn our history, and then compare with your history

om merely stating facts of 1969 when all arabs lost to israel by a huge huge margin

 

[Mosamania]

why are you getting jealous, you are talking about pakistan's history??, you need to learn our history, and then compare with your history

om merely stating facts of 1969 when all arabs lost to israel by a huge huge margin

First of all it was in 1967. And yes they did lose the enemy took them by surprise and they failed to prepare for it. However go to any Egyptian and tell him you lost the 1973 war see what he/she will tell you.

Saudi Arabia only participated in the 1948 war and participated in all wars after that with cash since it lacked soldiers to fight in large scale conflicts unlike Syria or Egypt at the time. And When did I bring Pakistan's history to the table mate?

 

[AUz]

@Supernova

Israelis outclassed Arabs in 67' but this was not the case in 73'.Actually 1973 war shattered the myth that Arabs can't fight in modern complex warfare.Egyptian Military achieved EVERYTHING according to the plan (until they deviated from their plan under Syrian/Soviet pressure and marched deep into Sinai with their armour)

Breaking through the prime Israeli defense line,Barlev Lines , by crossing Suez canal was quite a feat by Egyptian Army.

I do agree that 220+ F-16s of EAF (without AIM-120Cs) are sitting ducks for Israelis.

Why Egyptian Air Force don't get any BVR missiles? If you are buying 220+ fighters then you should also demand for BVRs for the fighters you are buying. . .Common sense.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Assalam alaikum

Egyptions r gr8 ppl but unfortunately they were ruled by stupid rulers
In 1967 as i know the tension was there so they should not have been so relaxed and had to be prepared for the worse in 1973 they did good at first then israel took the lead. I remember the army chief shazli's interview on aljazeerah he said i suggested that we start the barlev crossing by Chanting Allah o Akbar

TARIQ

 

[Amir_Pharaoh]

Their Airforce n navy r toothless.

NO BVR,NO SUBS....

Really ... ?! ..
Egyptian Military Forces ... ?!!!
about BVR .. F-16s -> AIM-7 Sparrow missile .. yes its semi-active radar unlike AIM-120 AMRAAM ..

But Egypt refused to sign CISMOA (Communications and Information Security Memorandum of Agreemen)

"Egypt would have to sign a Communications, Interoperability, and Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA), something Egyptian defense officials have refused to do for over a decade, arguing that the resulting U.S. inspection requirements amount to an infringement on national sovereignty. Such concerns, however, have not kept the countries of the Gulf Cooperation Council from signing the agreement, which raises the likelihood that some other reason underlies Egypt's decision"

"testimony to the US House of Representatives in June 2008, Dr Walter K Anderson, Associate Director, South Asia Studies at the School of Advanced International Studies at John Hopkins University, said, “Indian interest in American multirole aircraft appears to be forcing the country to consider a CISMOA, which would in turn enhance the possibilities of even greater Indian purchase of US military equipment,”
Cismoa will also have to be signed if India decides to go in for the F-16 Fighting Falcon or the F/A 18-E/F Super Hornets."

Furthermore ..

"In 2009, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wrote to U.S. embassy officials in Cairo describing the State Department's suspicions that Egypt had violated its "end-user agreements" with the U.S. 8 different times over the prior three years. In one instance, Egyptian defense officials allegedly let a Chinese military delegation examine U.S.-made F-16s and related technical facilities"

"PDAS [Tom] Countryman emphasized the importance of a clear and transparent picture of Egypt’s end-use performance, including the measures being taken to prevent further violations. He noted that Egypt had more potential Section 3 violations than any other country in the world over the last several years. Cases involving the Chinese, he continued, were of particular concern .... The case involving the visit of a Chinese military official to an F-16 base , however, did raise genuine concerns about the transfer of US technology. He noted that U.S. concerns over the visit had already delayed Egypt’s request to purchase F-16 aircraft"

"PDAS Countryman…. suggested [that Egypt’s] MOD agree in writing to the following actions: 1) Conduct an internal analysis of the eight potential violations to be shared with the OMC, 2) Commit to an end-use training plan, and 3) Identify one senior official as a point of contact for end-use issues…. 11. (C) Subsequent to the meeting, [Egyptian Assistant Minister of Defense Mohammed] al-Assar reviewed the proposed text, but declined to sign the document…. He declined to conduct an internal analysis on the end-use violations"

"“Both [Chief of Staff Lieutenant General Sami] Anan and [Air Marshal] Reda will express concern over releasability issues and frustration with Egypt’s inability to procure restricted weapons systems. Some systems are not releasable because of Egyptian refusal to sign the necessary agreement (CISMOA) providing end-use assurances and ensuring proper protection of certain U.S. origin technology. Releasability is of special concern to the EAF as they prepare to purchase 24 F-16 aircraft that will require a costly retrofit with less-advanced weapons systems. Since 2006, the Department of State has notified Congress of six potential end-use violations by the Egyptian military. We are currently investigating two additional cases, one involving the visit of a Chinese military official to an F-16 facility on an Egyptian Air Force base"

"Instead of relying on the , active-homing AIM-120 AMRAAM as their medium range air to air missile, Egypt’s F-16s depend on the AIM-7P Sparrow. The Sparrow uses semi-active radar homing, which means the launching fighter needs to maintain a continuous illumination lock on the target aircraft. In contrast, an Israeli F-16I equipped with AMRAAM missiles can achieve lock, launch, then break lock and evade while the missile guides itself to the target. In a confrontation with the air forces of neighbors like Libya or Sudan, Egypt’s combination of better fighters and supporting E-2 AWACS planes would make even Sparrow-armed F-16s extremely dangerous. The absence of AMRAAM missiles does have the effect of preserving Israel’s technological edge, however, even though F-16s are also the mainstay of the Israeli air force"

"“The EAF has developed wide-scale in-country F-16-specific maintenance/logistics support and has an in-country F-16 Flying Training Unit where new pilots are trained to fly the F-16…. The EAF has in-country depot capability to produce over 300 different F-16 parts. Most of these parts are compatible with the EAF version F-16 Block 50/52. The EAF has in-country depot-level aircraft modification capability through the F-16 Falcon-UP modification program. This program and capability enables the EAF to significantly increase the service-life of their current F-16 fleet and any subsequent F-16 procurements. The EAF has established in-country partial depot capability to overhaul certain F-16 engine sections and this capability is upgradeable to support the F-16 Block 50/52. Egypt continually upgrades its avionics testing and repair capability to keep pace with the advancing technology in the F-16 aircraft"


And EAF not only F-16s .. !!
Mirage-5 upgraded , Mirage-2000 .. (MBDA MICA)
Mig-29 smt2 + "Mig-29 M2 + Su-35 in the future" (R-77)

"Russia can supply MiG-29, Su-35 fighters to Egypt - Rosoboronexport
July 25, 2010 14:59
FARNBOROUGH. July 25 (Interfax-AVN) - Rosoboronexport is in technical consultations with the Egyptian Defense Ministry regarding possible supply of Mikoyan MiG-29M2 and Sukhoi Su-35 fighter aircraft, head of the Rosoboronexport's Department of Air Force Special Gear and Services Export Sergei Kornev told Interfax-AVN.
"We held a presentation of the MiG-29M2 and Su-35 aircraft for the Egyptian Defense Ministry. Technical consultations are under way," Kornev said at the Farnborough international airshow near London.
It is too soon to talk about negotiating the supply of these aircraft, he said. "In regard to aircraft, we are at the very beginning of the path," Kornev said.
The company signed with Egypt a contract for the supply of Mikoyan Mi-17V-5 helicopters, he said. "In regard to helicopters, we already have certain results," said Kornev, who heads Rosoboronexport's delegation at the airshow."

About Subs ...
Althought egyptian army doesn't like to make a big show ..
you know many pple here don't know that policy .. there is no any photo -> Mig-29 / Buk-M / Tor-m / Tunguska / Patriot / Eifv / Sifv (1 pic) / T-80 / T-62 upgraded / Smerch / ... ... many others equipments ... !!!!!!

Anyway we are sure about 2 Sava + 6 Romeo class from China + the Russians Romeos ... besides ** KILO-636 submarine ..

"upcoming export contracts for ten of the KILO-636 submarines . As a customer mentioned Vietnam and Egypt The total value of these contracts could exceed $ 3 billion"

"Egypt holds negotiations with Russia about possible procurement of 4 Project 636 Kilo diesel subs for about $1.2 bln"

Russia to strengthen its power at market of non-nuclear subs

"Вообще, география экспорта подводных лодок, построенных по проектам ЦКБ МТ "Рубин, обширна. В настоящее время разработанные здесь субмарины входят в состав Военно-Морских Сил 14 стран: Албания, Алжир, Болгария, Египет, Индия, Индонезия, Иран, Китай, КНДР, Куба, Ливия, Польша, Румыния. Сири

In general, the geography of export submarines built for the project CDB ME "Rubin wide. At the present time here submarine developed part of the Naval Forces of 14 countries: Albania, Algeria, Bulgaria, Egypt, India, Indonesia, Iran, China, North Korea , Cuba, Libya, Poland, Romania. Syria "

 

[Amir_Pharaoh]

a portion of egypt Sanai is still occupied by israel

also egypt combined with saudi arab, jordan, syria, lebanon, iraq failed in 1969 from tiny israel , HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"a portion of egypt Sanai is still occupied by israel .. "

It seems that you still live in 1967 .. !!

 

[Amir_Pharaoh]

Subs of Egyptian Navy.
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[EGYPT2100]

a portion of egypt Sanai is still occupied by israel

also egypt combined with saudi arab, jordan, syria, lebanon, iraq failed in 1969 from tiny israel , HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

IS IT REALY SO FUNNY !!!!!

SHAME ON YOU

EVEN IF THAT WAS TRUE THAT SAINAI IS STILL UNDER OCCUPATION BY ISRAEL OR ANY OTHER ONE , YOU WOULD RATHER BE SAD AND TRYING TO DEFEND YOUR EGYPTION BROTHERS & SISTERS THAN BEING HAPPY LIKE THAT

From Anas may Allah be pleased with him said:

"The Prophet MOHAMED said, peace be upon him

Do not someone believe, untill love for his brother

what he loves for himself


DO YOU LOVE BEING KASHMIR UNDER INDIAN OCCUPATION ?

I DONOT

 

[Imran Khan]

@superNova

behave civil man as you are posting currently its looking to me you have limited time left here .

 

[EGYPT2100]

why are you getting jealous, you are talking about pakistan's history??, you need to learn our history, and then compare with your history

om merely stating facts of 1969 when all arabs lost to israel by a huge huge margin

FIRST , WE ARE PROUD BY OUR PAKISTANIAN BROTHERS

SECOND , BEING JEALOUS IN ORDER TO DO MORE TO BECOME BETTER IS NOT A BAD THING

THIRD , WITH ALL RESPECT TO THE PAKSTANIAN HISTORY AND ANY OTHER MUSLIM HISTORY , OUR HISTORY STARTED BEFOR 18000 YEARS AGO , WE MADE HISTORY , WE ARE EVEN THE HISTORY IT SELF - THE 1ST STATE IN HISTORY IS EGYPT , THE 1ST ARMY IN HISTORY IS THE EGYPTION ARMY , WE EVEN HAVE BATTELES FROM THOUSAND YEARS AGO WHICH IS BEING STUDY IN ALL WAR FACALTIES IN THE WORLD FROM YEARS TILL TODAY LIKE MEGIDDO BATTELE & KADESH BATTELE IN 1274 BC IN A WAR LAST FOR 16 YEARS ENDED BY THE FIRST PEACE TREATY IN HUMAN HISTORY IN 1258 BC , WE MADE THE SCINCE ITSELF IN ALL OF IT TYBES IN TIME WHEN THERE WERE NOTHING THE HUMAN RACE KNOW , THEN THE THE HUMANITY CIVILIZED ACCORDING TO US


EGYPT IS PLEASED , RECOGNIZED AND HONORED IN THE HOLY QURAN 5 DIRECT TIMES & 19 TIMES IN DIRECT , EGYPT ALSO PLEASED , RECOGNIZEDAND AND HONORED IN JUDAISM & CHRISTIANTY , NO ONE ELSE US DID HAVE SUCH HONOR OR PLEASED LIKE US SPICIALY IN THE THREE HEAVEN BOOKS FROM ALLAH THE GREAT

SO TEL ME NOW , WHO SHOULD BE JEALOUS AFTER THIS FEW THINGS ABOUT EGYPT LIKE A DROB OF WATER IN A NEVER ENDING OCEAN CALLED EGYPT

IN THE END WE ARE ALL BROTHERS IN ISLAM , ONE NATION BUT DIVIDED INTO MANY STATES , WHOEVER WE WILL ALWAYS STILL ONE , ANY GOOD THING FOR ONE IS GOOD FOR ALL , AND ANY BAD THING FOR ONE IS BAD FOR ALL