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After the Egyptian Air Force obtained them together, here is a comparison between the two advanced combat aircraft, "Eurofighter Typhoon" and "Rafale"

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The Eurofighter is the main fighter in the armies of Germany, Italy and England, and in this report we will show you a simple comparison between the “Eurofighter” and the Rafale in order to learn about the strength of the Typhoon fighter, nicknamed the Hurricane.


First: the engine

Typhoon: It has two Eurojet EJ200 turbofan engines with a thrust of 20,000 pounds per engine with super cruise, which gives it superiority in acceleration, maximum speed, combat and maneuvering at very high altitudes (control missions and air superiority), and excels in missions Fighting beyond range of vision BVR.

Rafale: It has two Snecma M88-4E turbine engines equipped with two cooling channels to reduce thermal emissions by a large percentage, and is equipped with a turbine with a longer life and economic fuel consumption, and has a thrust of 17.5 thousand pounds with the Supercruise feature.

Second: the radar

The Typhoon excels in possessing the CAESAR Captor-E AESA radar, which is a multi-tasking air-to-air and fire-control radar for air-to-air and air-to-ground operations. It is equipped with an electronic anti-jamming system and has a maximum range of 360 km.

The Rafale: It has an AESA-type RBE2 radar, with a range of 230-250 km, despite its lower range than the Typhoon radar, but it is characterized by the ability to detect flying targets below the plane of the fighter and hit them, and to carry out deep penetration missions at a low level of flight where it has an automatic terrain tracking pattern and avoiding danger.

Third: Armament

The Typhoon excels in its ability to carry a large variety of ammunition (the Meteor air-to-air missile, which has not yet been integrated on the Rafale, and is considered one of the most powerful air / air missiles in the world, and is also capable of carrying the American Amram air-to-air missile, the British Asram missile, and the British Asram missile). German IRIS-T air-to-air missile, British Brimstone air-to-surface missile, Storm Shadow mobile missile, US anti-radar HARM missile, German/Swedish Taurus cruise missile, Norwegian Penguin anti-ship missile, German Armiger anti-radar missile, smart bomb German HOPE/HOSBO long-range high-penetration precision-guided bombs, Paveway IV high-precision guided bombs, and GBU family laser-, thermal- and GPS-guided smart bombs of various weights).

Fourth: HMSS

This point is considered a qualitative leap for the Egyptian Air Force because it will possess it for the first time:

Where the Typhoon excels in owning the advanced HMSS data and targeting helmet, which allows the ability to lock the targets and launch them just by looking at them by the fighter pilot, other than displaying different data on the transparent screen on its surface, so the fighter commander does not need to look at many screens and use several buttons from For the sake of closing on a target or hitting a target, but by looking at the target, it is at the mercy of the fighter
The Rafale: owns the advanced helmet Gallet LA100 and is characterized by its light weight, improved oxygen pumping system and the most advanced night vision system, and it will be added later with a transparent data display and sighting Topowl-F model, but it has not been integrated yet.

Fifth: Electronic Warfare

The Rafale excels in electronic warfare capabilities thanks to its possession of the SPECTRA system, which is one of the best electronic warfare packages for fighters in the world. It is controlled by a management computer and systems compatibility consisting of three advanced processors with a maximum range of 250 km,

Typhoon: It has the Praetorian DASS electronic warfare system integrated with the structure of the fighter, providing integrated protection against various threats around the fighter with a range of 185 km.

Sixth: OSF

The Rafale excels in the range of thermal / electro-optical detection, as it has an OSF detection and tracking system. The system has a detecting range of up to 100+ km (up to 130 km against a target from the back due to the engine’s thermal emission and 80 km from the front) and the ability to give the fighter the advantage of extinguishing the radar and relying on Thermal and electro-optical monitoring + the feature of turning off the IFF system to identify the enemy and friend, and only visual identification of the rest of the formation's fighters without problems,

The Typhoon PIRATE Passive thermal detection system is located on the front of the fighter in front of the cockpit for air-to-air detection missions, and the range of the monitor ranges between 56 and 93 km.

Seventh: Range and payload

The Rafale excels in the armament load of up to 9.5 tons of weapons, compared to the 7.5 tons of armament for the Typhoon, because the internal fuel tank in the Typhoon is larger, as the Typhoon excels in the range with the full load of external fuel tanks 3790 km, compared to 3,700 km for the Rafale With fuel tanks, which roughly means that their payload of armament is the same if the mission is long-range and requires 3 external fuel tanks, with a slight superiority of the Typhoon, which is 90 km, an increase in range.


Finally, the combination of the Typhoon and the Rafale in one air force such as the Egyptian Air Force is a real hell for any hostile air force, where the Typhoon next to the Rafale will open a large field of new tactics and methods in air combat due to the enormous linking and work capabilities between the two fighters .. Each fighter combines very great advantages that cover the weaknesses of other fighter, which gives the Egyptian Air Force an integration that has not happened throughout its history..

And the Meteor is inevitably coming with the Egyptian fighters, because there is no reason to force Egypt to conclude deals that exceed 78 fighters, at a price exceeding 10 billion dollars, just to obtain a deficient fighter in the presence of fully armed alternatives..

By: Sameh Al-Jallad and other sources
 
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After the Egyptian Air Force obtained them together, here is a comparison between the two advanced combat aircraft, "Eurofighter Typhoon" and "Rafale"

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The Eurofighter is the main fighter in the armies of Germany, Italy and England, and in this report we will show you a simple comparison between the “Eurofighter” and the Rafale in order to learn about the strength of the Typhoon fighter, nicknamed the Hurricane.


First: the engine

Typhoon: It has two Eurojet EJ200 turbofan engines with a thrust of 20,000 pounds per engine with super cruise, which gives it superiority in acceleration, maximum speed, combat and maneuvering at very high altitudes (control missions and air superiority), and excels in missions Fighting beyond range of vision BVR.

Rafale: It has two Snecma M88-4E turbine engines equipped with two cooling channels to reduce thermal emissions by a large percentage, and is equipped with a turbine with a longer life and economic fuel consumption, and has a thrust of 17.5 thousand pounds with the Supercruise feature.

Second: the radar

The Typhoon excels in possessing the CAESAR Captor-E AESA radar, which is a multi-tasking air-to-air and fire-control radar for air-to-air and air-to-ground operations. It is equipped with an electronic anti-jamming system and has a maximum range of 360 km.

The Rafale: It has an AESA-type RBE2 radar, with a range of 230-250 km, despite its lower range than the Typhoon radar, but it is characterized by the ability to detect flying targets below the plane of the fighter and hit them, and to carry out deep penetration missions at a low level of flight where it has an automatic terrain tracking pattern and avoiding danger.

Third: Armament

The Typhoon excels in its ability to carry a large variety of ammunition (the Meteor air-to-air missile, which has not yet been integrated on the Rafale, and is considered one of the most powerful air / air missiles in the world, and is also capable of carrying the American Amram air-to-air missile, the British Asram missile, and the British Asram missile). German IRIS-T air-to-air missile, British Brimstone air-to-surface missile, Storm Shadow mobile missile, US anti-radar HARM missile, German/Swedish Taurus cruise missile, Norwegian Penguin anti-ship missile, German Armiger anti-radar missile, smart bomb German HOPE/HOSBO long-range high-penetration precision-guided bombs, Paveway IV high-precision guided bombs, and GBU family laser-, thermal- and GPS-guided smart bombs of various weights).

Fourth: HMSS

This point is considered a qualitative leap for the Egyptian Air Force because it will possess it for the first time:

Where the Typhoon excels in owning the advanced HMSS data and targeting helmet, which allows the ability to lock the targets and launch them just by looking at them by the fighter pilot, other than displaying different data on the transparent screen on its surface, so the fighter commander does not need to look at many screens and use several buttons from For the sake of closing on a target or hitting a target, but by looking at the target, it is at the mercy of the fighter
The Rafale: owns the advanced helmet Gallet LA100 and is characterized by its light weight, improved oxygen pumping system and the most advanced night vision system, and it will be added later with a transparent data display and sighting Topowl-F model, but it has not been integrated yet.

Fifth: Electronic Warfare

The Rafale excels in electronic warfare capabilities thanks to its possession of the SPECTRA system, which is one of the best electronic warfare packages for fighters in the world. It is controlled by a management computer and systems compatibility consisting of three advanced processors with a maximum range of 250 km,

Typhoon: It has the Praetorian DASS electronic warfare system integrated with the structure of the fighter, providing integrated protection against various threats around the fighter with a range of 185 km.

Sixth: OSF

The Rafale excels in the range of thermal / electro-optical detection, as it has an OSF detection and tracking system. The system has a detecting range of up to 100+ km (up to 130 km against a target from the back due to the engine’s thermal emission and 80 km from the front) and the ability to give the fighter the advantage of extinguishing the radar and relying on Thermal and electro-optical monitoring + the feature of turning off the IFF system to identify the enemy and friend, and only visual identification of the rest of the formation's fighters without problems,

The Typhoon PIRATE Passive thermal detection system is located on the front of the fighter in front of the cockpit for air-to-air detection missions, and the range of the monitor ranges between 56 and 93 km.

Seventh: Range and payload

The Rafale excels in the armament load of up to 9.5 tons of weapons, compared to the 7.5 tons of armament for the Typhoon, because the internal fuel tank in the Typhoon is larger, as the Typhoon excels in the range with the full load of external fuel tanks 3790 km, compared to 3,700 km for the Rafale With fuel tanks, which roughly means that their payload of armament is the same if the mission is long-range and requires 3 external fuel tanks, with a slight superiority of the Typhoon, which is 90 km, an increase in range.


Finally, the combination of the Typhoon and the Rafale in one air force such as the Egyptian Air Force is a real hell for any hostile air force, where the Typhoon next to the Rafale will open a large field of new tactics and methods in air combat due to the enormous linking and work capabilities between the two fighters .. Each fighter combines very great advantages that cover the weaknesses of other fighter, which gives the Egyptian Air Force an integration that has not happened throughout its history..

And the Meteor is inevitably coming with the Egyptian fighters, because there is no reason to force Egypt to conclude deals that exceed 78 fighters, at a price exceeding 10 billion dollars, just to obtain a deficient fighter in the presence of fully armed alternatives..

By: Sameh Al-Jallad and other sources
I am afraid eni all this yeb2a khazo2 hahaha. Our Air Force is playing with us hahahaha. For me we must get Meteor missile and some air to ground missiles like Storm Shadow etc... The problem will be : is USA UK etc... are ready to give us weapons yes or no. We must forget any armament connected with scandinavian because our relation with them is that "good" mostly "human rights" (nor friend nor enemy).
 
Brazil offers the KC-390 Brazilian transport aircraft to the Egyptian Air Force with technology transfer

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The Brazilian Embraer company has offered the KC-390 Brazilian transport plane to the Egyptian Air Force with the transfer of technology,

The KC-390 outperforms the Super Hercules in that it has a larger payload of 26 tons compared to the 20 tons of the Hercules, and can carry out refueling operations in the air and can carry 34 tons of fuel.

It can also take off and land from short, unequipped runways, in addition to its low price, which does not exceed $50 million per plane.

It is said that Brazil intends to establish an industrial zone for it along the lines of the Russian and Chinese industrial zone in the Suez Canal zone..


I am afraid eni all this yeb2a khazo2 hahaha. Our Air Force is playing with us hahahaha. For me we must get Meteor missile and some air to ground missiles like Storm Shadow etc... The problem will be : is USA UK etc... are ready to give us weapons yes or no. We must forget any armament connected with scandinavian because our relation with them is that "good" mostly "human rights" (nor friend nor enemy).
USA UK yeb2a khazo2..but not Italy, France and Germany..even the UK to some extent..The US will give anything defensive or neutral.. but nothing offensive that can threaten Usrael..

The rest of the post is very informative about the capabilities of both the Rafale and the Typhoon..and pretty interesting..
 
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Brazil offers the KC-390 Brazilian transport aircraft to the Egyptian Air Force with technology transfer

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The Brazilian Embraer company has offered the KC-390 Brazilian transport plane to the Egyptian Air Force with the transfer of technology,

The KC-390 outperforms the Super Hercules in that it has a larger payload of 26 tons compared to the 20 tons of the Hercules, and can carry out refueling operations in the air and can carry 34 tons of fuel.

It can also take off and land from short, unequipped runways, in addition to its low price, which does not exceed $50 million per plane.

It is said that Brazil intends to establish an industrial zone for it along the lines of the Russian and Chinese industrial zone in the Suez Canal zone..



USA UK yeb2a khazo2..but not Italy, France and Germany..even the UK to some extent..The US will give anything defensive or neutral.. but nothing offensive that can threaten Usrael..

The rest of the post is very informative about the capabilities of both the Rafale and the Typhoon..and pretty interesting..
I think we must continue with C-130 deal, buy some KC-390 and build some in Egypt if ToT will be building locally. Honestly this aircraft is hella sexy hahaha. My favorites military transport aircraft by design are C-130 KC-390 CASA C-295 and An-74 so mostly our entire transport aircraft hahahaha. What are yours?
 
I think we must continue with C-130 deal, buy some KC-390 and build some in Egypt if ToT will be building locally. Honestly this aircraft is hella sexy hahaha. My favorites military transport aircraft by design are C-130 KC-390 CASA C-295 and An-74 so mostly our entire transport aircraft hahahaha. What are yours?
I like the Super Hercules in particular and it is a keep.. while the deal with Brazil is very attractive with some very modern TOT ..so it is a keep too..not to forget the potential export in the ME and Africa..
 
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The missile is equipped with a central computer connected to an active GPS navigator, with the aim of providing information on its location and correcting its trajectory. The warhead weight of the missile is 200 kg.


The Saudi forces have the “Astros” missile launcher system capable of launching their satellite-guided missiles in difficult weather and field conditions..So Egypt knows its worth and will get it too..
 
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The missile is equipped with a central computer connected to an active GPS navigator, with the aim of providing information on its location and correcting its trajectory. The warhead weight of the missile is 200 kg.


The Saudi forces have the “Astros” missile launcher system capable of launching their satellite-guided missiles in difficult weather and field conditions..So Egypt knows its worth and will get it too..
It can carry a cruise missiles and guided rockets/missiles like M270 MLRS?
 
The conclusion of the joint maritime training activities “Red Wave-5” in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia


It can carry a cruise missiles and guided rockets/missiles like M270 MLRS?
Yes.. a very versatile MLRS..

Belaruss had proposed its Polonez MLRS that can do that too.. but now the choice is between Western and Eastern Technologies for Egypt..
 
Yes.. a very versatile MLRS..

Belaruss had proposed its Polonez MLRS that can do that too.. but now the choice is between Western and Eastern Technologies for Egypt..
Our M270 MLRS is downgraded sa7?

I think Polonez MLRS will be always on the table. Maybe rn the brazilian one then in the future Polonez so we can replace some of our old Sakr series.
I need to see the Belarussian drones. It is approximately 2 years since we signed the deal.
 
Our M270 MLRS is downgraded sa7?

I think Polonez MLRS will be always on the table. Maybe rn the brazilian one then in the future Polonez so we can replace some of our old Sakr series.
I need to see the Belarussian drones. It is approximately 2 years since we signed the deal.
There is an upgraded Sakr with fire control system and pods instead of tubes.

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Our M270 MLRS is downgraded sa7?

I think Polonez MLRS will be always on the table. Maybe rn the brazilian one then in the future Polonez so we can replace some of our old Sakr series.
I need to see the Belarussian drones. It is approximately 2 years since we signed the deal.
It is 1 year exactly.. after the deal to build the production line.. be patient.. lol
 
The Saudi forces have the “Astros” missile launcher system capable of launching their satellite-guided missiles in difficult weather and field conditions..So Egypt knows its worth and will get it too..

It would be even better if understanding the terms under MTCR limiting any export missiles of this type to 300km if that gets bypassed due to the fact that it would be produced in Egypt under a ToT agreement. If technology transfer is given, then technically, once the missiles are being produced in country, you would think it would be permissible for Egypt to make them capable of cruising a greater distance than 300km. My guess is probably not, but it would be good for Egypt to start a local production so as to not be limited to MTCR or even ITAR regs.

I really hope that if and when the Typhoons do come to Egypt that they don't ruin them with that gaudy Tahyia Misr in Arabic on the side like the Rafales. Look at how the Saudi Arabians elegantly displayed their insignias on their Typhoons and all their aircraft, frankly. It even looks like they used a low visibility roundel for the forward fuselage insignia.

Stunning & deadly beauty, and the two-seater IMO is one of the most beautiful-looking aircraft. That glass canopy is a one-piece canopy without any mid rail or support of any kind. Terrific engineering.

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Saudi Buzzing Blizzard!

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Same with the brand new Kuwaiti Typhoons which supposedly are the most advanced Typhoons to date. Let's hope the same level is coming to the EAF as well.

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Bunch of stuff you can notice about the beautiful and well-engineered details of this lethal bird. For example, the retractable fuel probe has a protective cover and open and closes to let out and retract the fuel probe. The IRST/FLIR combination is on the left side opposing the fuel probe.

The shape of the radome is arguably the most perfect along with the Su-35's and the Rafale. It just has the most exquisite contours.

Unlike the Rafale canards which are active close-coupled canards which means the DFBW (Digital Fly By Wire) system activates them based on the pilot's stick command only to control the air flow above the wings and not so much as a movable control surface for pitch and roll. The Eurofighter Typhoon's canards act much more as control surfaces, similar to the rear-mounted horizontal stabilizers on most common aircraft. Those control AoA and roll much more aggressively. They're also moved much more forward than the Rafale's which are back closer to the wings. So far, Saudi & Qatar purchased their EFT's from the UK while Kuwait and hopefully the EAF will have purchased theirs from Italy. Some very cool stuff.

Also in this pic you see the two Praetorian DASS (Defensive Aid Sub Systems) wingtip pods which contain the ESM & RWR, LWR, ECM, MAWS and a cable connected decoy in the starboard pod. Really outstanding stuff. Those IRIS-T short-range missiles can loop backwards 180 degrees and attack a trailing fighter.

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It would be even better if understanding the terms under MTCR limiting any export missiles of this type to 300km if that gets bypassed due to the fact that it would be produced in Egypt under a ToT agreement. If technology transfer is given, then technically, once the missiles are being produced in country, you would think it would be permissible for Egypt to make them capable of cruising a greater distance than 300km. My guess is probably not, but it would be good for Egypt to start a local production so as to not be limited to MTCR or even ITAR regs.

I really hope that if and when the Typhoons do come to Egypt that they don't ruin them with that gaudy Tahyia Misr in Arabic on the side like the Rafales. Look at how the Saudi Arabians elegantly displayed their insignias on their Typhoons and all their aircraft, frankly. It even looks like they used a low visibility roundel for the forward fuselage insignia.

Stunning & deadly beauty, and the two-seater IMO is one of the most beautiful-looking aircraft. That glass canopy is a one-piece canopy without any mid rail or support of any kind. Terrific engineering.

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Saudi Buzzing Blizzard!

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Same with the brand new Kuwaiti Typhoons which supposedly are the most advanced Typhoons to date. Let's hope the same level is coming to the EAF as well.

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Bunch of stuff you can notice about the beautiful and well-engineered details of this lethal bird. For example, the retractable fuel probe has a protective cover and open and closes to let out and retract the fuel probe. The IRIST/FLIR combination is on the left side opposing the fuel probe.

The shape of the radome is arguably the most perfect along with the Su-35's and the Rafale. It just has the most exquisite contours.

Unlike the Rafale canards which are active close-coupled canards which means they the DFBW (Digital Fly By Wire) system activates them based on the pilot's stick command only to control the air flow above the wings and not so much as a movable control surface for pitch and roll. The Eurofighter Typhoon's canards act much more as control surfaces, similar to the rear-mounted horizontal stabilizers on most common aircraft. Those control AoA and roll much more aggressively. They're also moved much more forward than the Rafale's which are back closer to the wings. So far, Saudi & Qatar purchased their EFT's from the UK while Kuwait and hopefully the EAF will have purchased theirs from Italy. Some very cool stuff.

Also in this pic you see the two Praetorian DASS (Defensive Aid Sub Systems) wingtip pods which contain the ESM & RWR, LWR, ECM, MAWS and a cable connected decoy in the starboard pod. Really outstanding stuff. Those IRIS-T short-range missiles can loop backwards 180 degrees and attack a trailing fighter.

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Bro and Bros..just understand that Egypt and the GCC are one now.. you can add Jordan to some extent too..and Morocco ..it goes without mentioning..
 

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