Egyptian Armed Forces

[Gomig-21]

Did you see the news? There is a chance that Turkey will appoint a new ambassador to Cairo after years without any ambassadors in both countries. Big changes is happening in our relation with Turkey.

@Gomig-21 IDK if you like this progress yes or no hahahaha.

There is good article here:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/turkey-appoint-ambassador-egypt-ending-standoff

lol. My problem is strictly their president. I mean, if you read that article and at the end, the guy said he wouldn't shake Sisi's hand. The way he had them mess with Egypt's internal affairs with the MB (which appears they're going to stop that crap to help fix relations) shows he knew what he was doing to stick it to the new EGY gov. He created all the animosity and look at Sisi & co.. they're always willing to take the higher road and always be the good guy. Never does he get involved in other's affairs and the Turks should learn from him. Sisi is really the ultimate diplomat.

 

[The SC]

Mmmm.....according to that article I posted the link for a few posts back, that might not be the case, bro. Dassault was producing 11 aircraft a year, round that up to 1 a month and they still have Greece, India and Qatar's orders to complete.

Also the F4 standard will probably not be ready for this 2nd order of EAF Rafales. So it'll have to be on a 3rd order if that happens. Also according to this article.

From the article:

The Indian Air Force is also in the process of taking delivery of 36 Rafales, while Qatar has received 23 of the 36 it has on order.

There have already been suggestions that Egypt could eventually purchase the new Rafale F4, increasing the (overall) Rafale fleet to 72 or even 100 aircraft “depending on Egypt’s financial capacity”.

So to make the total reach 72 aircraft, that would be the 3rd order since this one they just signed is for 30 to make the total in the fleet reach 54. Unless you have a better source supporting this next batch being the F4 standard. That would be great, just don't think it's ready in time.

Look up Rafale F4 standard development..the F4.1 will be ready in 2024.. and the full F4 not before 2026 and up.. so Egypt might be getting the first version of the F4..the F4.1.. this is what it is based on..

note: the F3 too went through development from F3.1 to F3.4 ..

The dates are based on the deal not other sites..So those were the agreed upon delivery dates when the deal was signed..France will supposedly increase its yearly production..

July 20, 2015
https://www.reuters.com/article/dassault-rafale-idINKCN0PU0R520150720

Dec 3, 2021
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...s-in-france/articleshow/88072124.cms?from=mdr

what is the drone in the minute 4:32? Maybe a new domestic project?

Wingloong 2

 

[The SC]

French aircraft carrier PA2.. destined for export

https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/porte-avoins2/

 

[Super Falcon]

This is why armed forces should not run country the see ruling a country by army prospective which will never worknow F 15 orders are to be signed crazy Egyptian govt buying weapons but not investing in human capital as our country pakistan

 

[Ghostkiller]

Wingloong 2

That isn't a wingloong 2. The drone of min 4:32 is a reconnaisance/surveillance drone.

 

[The SC]

That isn't a wingloong 2. The drone of min 4:32 is a reconnaisance/surveillance drone.

The ASN-209 Tactical UAV (MAME)..a Chinese UAV made under license and many modifications in Egypt..

Since 2012:
https://www.suasnews.com/2012/05/egypt-nation-produces-uav-in-cooperation-with-china/

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-...me-uav-system-between-china-and-egypt.690503/

 

[Ghostkiller]

French aircraft carrier PA2.. destined for export

We don't need Aircraft Carrier. First, it is so expensive to buy it to maintain it and plus to buy the 20 new Rafales. IDK why we would buy it, we aren't a superpower to have. We are a regional power and we have a great Navy that can protect our national security etc... Maybe in the future when we will be a massive developed country (inshallah one day).

The ASN-209 Tactical UAV (MAME)..a Chinese UAV made under license and many modifications in Egypt..

Since 2012:
https://www.suasnews.com/2012/05/egypt-nation-produces-uav-in-cooperation-with-china/

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https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-...me-uav-system-between-china-and-egypt.690503/

IK the shape of ASN-209. But still it isn't what I am talking about. I am talking about the last two drones on the right (from left to right there is S-100, ASN-209 then 2 unknowns drones)

 

[joker88]

 

[Hydration]

We don't need Aircraft Carrier. First, it is so expensive to buy it to maintain it and plus to buy the 20 new Rafales. IDK why we would buy it, we aren't a superpower to have. We are a regional power and we have a great Navy that can protect our national security etc... Maybe in the future when we will be a massive developed country (inshallah one day).


IK the shape of ASN-209. But still it isn't what I am talking about. I am talking about the last two drones on the right (from left to right there is S-100, ASN-209 then 2 unknowns drones)

This is a long term project just like the barrcuda. This is for the future and the economy is going rapidly (this ukranian crisis really just pulled alot of investment very fast and tourism kissed the sand because of it). It really shows you that theyre thinking for the future not now

 

[joker88]

 

[Gomig-21]

This is why armed forces should not run country the see ruling a country by army prospective which will never worknow F 15 orders are to be signed crazy Egyptian govt buying weapons but not investing in human capital as our country pakistan

While I agree with the concept that the army shouldn't run the country, they have done a pretty decent job since the revolution and Sisi coming to power but my problem with your comment is the faulty assumption that the government isn't investing in human capital. That couldn't be further from the truth.

You should visit the thread in the ME section on Egyptian National and Strategic Development Projects: A couple of pages of reading the great @The SC 's posts and updates will give you an immediate idea as to the gargantuan effort the Sisi admin is putting into improving the lives of millions of Egyptians, from developing new and numerous housing to help the poor improve their living conditions and work the program the admin initiated in eventually wiping out the slums, to investing in many high-tech companies to help create jobs for the hundreds of thousands of college graduates each year, as well as improving existing ones.

Egyptian National and Strategic Development Projects: News and Updates

A unified subject to follow-up on Egyptian development projects and the implementation of Egypt's overall development strategy (Egypt 2030).. @Gomig-21, @mahatir, @Saif al-Arab, and all Egyptians and people interested in Egypt's development..

defence.pk

And construction, forget about that! It's on an entirely optimal level with building a new capital and many other cities etc. So saying it's not investing it human capital is highly inaccurate, sir. It's just that people don't bother looking into it and just assume that.

Another nice pic of what could've been.....

 

[Gomig-21]

Aircraft carrier makes no sense for Egypt. Egypt does not need to project power outside its own region.

What's your definition of "the region", Abid? I ask that because for Egypt, the regions to the east and southeast are the entire stretch of the Red Sea from the Suez Canal to the horn of Africa and even further down, parallel to Kenya & Ethiopia. And to the north, it's the entire eastern half of the Mediterranean Sea. Egypt faces threats from both sides. The whole Ethiopian dam issue has created the need for "monitoring" the Nile stretch for any future issues that would threaten the water supply to Egypt.

The other reason is that the Egyptian Navy and Army, in their effort to prevent the infiltration of terrorist elements (and it has spent a HUGE amount of money protecting that border, land. air and sea) from Libya into Egypt that at the same time, it's been working with France and even NATO elements in protecting that sea border as well as protecting the sea coast. I believe that there will be joint patrolling the Mediterranean between France, Greece and Egypt and that's where that aircraft carrier comes into play.

The two mistrals can only do so much, and their role is mostly fast troop movement to far locations, even more so than being helicopter carriers. But the aircraft carrier will bring a whole other dimension to fast and potent defensive & offensive missions.

 

[Ghostkiller]

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Which drone (Winglong 1&2) or another UCAV?. And which type missiles?

 

[The SC]

Aircraft carrier makes no sense for Egypt. Egypt does not need to project power outside its own region.

Maybe it makes no sense to you.. that is your opinion.. but the fact is the Egyptian armed forces have shown interest in it.. there are many more naval ships and submarines to come before an AC.. but that is a medium to long term purchase..

The overall Air Power that an aircraft carrier brings to the operational area is not only limited to the tremendous capabilities that the fighter jets assets can deliver, it includes the capabilities of the organic rotary-wing assets and of the embarked cruise missiles available, from the escort and support ships that sail with the carrier as part of a Carrier Strike Group (CSG).. The region for Egypt stretches from the East Mediterranean sea to the the Arabian sea..

An aircraft carrier is considered the most valuable sea-based asset, and offers an incomparable military instrument with its ability to project tactical Air Power, including Air Interdiction, Anti-Surface Warfare (ASuW), offensive and defensive Counter-Air, AEA and AEW.

 

[Ghostkiller]

I believe that there will be joint patrolling the Mediterranean between France, Greece and Egypt and that's where that aircraft carrier comes into play.

Sorry but I am with Abid opinion. We don't need an aircraft carrier. We have both Mistrals. Our north fleet can monitor and protect us from any regional threat. Buying an aircraft carrier will be so expensive (to equip it to maintain it etc...) Plus we are still developing our economy. Buying this it will a huge burden in our army.