Egyptian Armed Forces

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

The middle picture looks slightly suspicious LOL! If you look closely you'll know what I mean. The first and third look ok, but could be the Su-35s for the VVS. I'm currently looking for the video that these supposedly came out of. If you find it, post it please.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1277473003501125640

Russian air force hasn't ordered any more Su-35. So it's definitely not for Russian air force.

 

[Gomig-21]

Russian air force hasn't ordered any more Su-35. So it's definitely not for Russian air force.

I was referring to the original order. Look at the aircraft in the middle picture...it has a red star on the vertical stabilizer and that engine is quite used up. That might've been the test bed for the original order for the VVS, certainly not a new AC for the EAF. The first and third pics look like they very well could be. We'll know for sure very soon, just like it happened with the MiG-35s. Same exact thing happened with that aircraft when pics came out like this of production models and one of the old Egyptian posters on here jumped all ugly on me and said those weren't Egyptian ones and sure enough, they were and then shortly thereafter, we were inundated with pics of the ones with the desert camo and then the blue ones came out etc. Same thing will happen here although it looks like some of these are already finished and ready from that one satellite pic.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Brother @Gomig-21 do you mind looking at this video? At the timestamp 1:37 you see a radar spinning. Is that indigenous or something? It looks like the ESR-32A radar scaled down for less range but I'm not 100% sure.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1277710864297144322

I also found a video showing it is indeed the same factory as where the ESR-32A is being built. Check the lights, and the background.

 

[Gomig-21]

Brother @Gomig-21 do you mind looking at this video? At the timestamp 1:37 you see a radar spinning. Is that indigenous or something? It looks like the ESR-32A radar scaled down for less range but I'm not 100% sure.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1277710864297144322

I also found a video showing it is indeed the same factory as where the ESR-32A is being built. Check the lights, and the background.

Yep, that's what it looks like. i beleive it was on display at last year's EDEX.

New Egyptian Surveillance Radar on Display

A new radar system being displayed at the show is the Egyptian Surveillance Radar ESR-32A. The radar is on display at the large Egypt pavilion.

The 2D L band radar is a fully solid-state radar system that incorporates the latest technologies into an airport surveillance radar system. “The ESR-32A offers the best value and high performance at a competitive price and its ease of maintenance will deliver significant operating cost savings,” a company official says.

The ESR-32A has been designed to operate in networked or stand-alone mode to support joint or independent operations of the Egyptian air force. The matched filter hardware facility can be dynamically reconfigured to instantaneously adapt to a variety of coded transmitted waveforms. The array antenna type has a claimed antenna efficiency of greater than 40 percent and the radar has an average transmitted power of 800 watt. The ESR-32A has been developed by the Department of Technical Research and Development, belonging to the Ministry of Defence.

https://gbp.com.sg/stories/new-egyptian-surveillance-radar-on-display/

 

[Gomig-21]

A gaggle of EAF F-16s all carrying 4 AIM-9s and 2 AIM-7M Sparrows each.

 

[nomi007]

A gaggle of EAF F-16s all carrying 4 AIM-9s and 2 AIM-7M Sparrows each.

Poor Falcons. without BVRs F-16s are useless.
PAF also face similar issues in Kargil war

 

[Mithridates]

Egypt possibly can add an IR sensor to it's sparrows and make them active homing missiles.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Poor Falcons. without BVRs F-16s are useless.
PAF also face similar issues in Kargil war

AIM-7M are BVRs.

 

[nomi007]

AIM-7M are BVRs.

ask US for AIM-120 for integration they will not
7M is old technology almost nothing important

 

[Philip the Arab]

ask US for AIM-120 for integration they will not
7M is old technology almost nothing important

Saudis, UAE, and Jordanians all have AMRAAMs.

 

[Gomig-21]

Poor Falcons. without BVRs F-16s are useless.
PAF also face similar issues in Kargil war

lol, don't believe all the crap you hear from all the anti-Egyptian threads that get posted. To say the EAF F-16s are "useless" is honestly (and I mean no offence when I say this) silly and uninformed. I think you guys are too high on that one, isolated incident of the shooting down the Indian MiG-21 Bison that all you think of is the AIM-120 is the end all be all and don't factor anything else. So just because of that, an airframe becomes useless? Not only is that silly, it's ridiculous.

A USAF F-15 pilot once told me (regarding this exact scenario) is "why do you suppose that almost every single fighter headed out for a mission will be carrying some type of AIM-9 short range missile as the USAF and US Navy does, even if it's carrying a pair of AIM-120s?" Look at every configuration you see, even Russian fighters will almost always, inevitably, carry R-73 short range missile with their R-77 because the chances of ending up withing visual range for an ensuing battle is much greater than fighting a successful one at BVR. Think about that for a minute.

I read this quote from an Indian military analyst regarding the Bison & F-16 incident.

The fact is, the side with the more capable sensor and networking architecture and most potent electronic warfare capabilities, as well as a creative tactics playbook and experience to leverage it, can have a far greater advantage regardless of 'airframe versus airframe' performance differentials.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...21-bison-versus-pakistani-f-16-viper-bullshit

Here another interesting part of an article on BVR confrontations.

It's not easy to win in BVR air combat

Systematic combat limits BVR air combat in many ways. Modern air combat is no longer the confrontation between aircraft, but the competition in the systematic strength of both sides.

If their systematic combat capability differs too much and battlefield information is "transparent in one way only", the side with information disadvantage will have much more probability of encountering BVR attack because of the powerful interference and online attack, the largely shortened detection distance of aircraft-borne radar, the shrinking attack scope, and the serious interference in identification of friend or foe (IFF), electronic confrontation and commanding communication.

If the two sides are neck and neck in systematic combat capability and battlefield information is "transparent in both ways", the fight over information supremacy will be extremely fierce.

The commanding information system on each side is likely to fail due to electronic interference or online attack from the other side, and air combat may turn into air-air confrontation. If BVR attack cannot achieve the expected result at that time, it will naturally turn into close-range air combat. Medium-range missile isn't always a crack shot, and BVR attack doesn't always hit the target.

First of all, the hitting accuracy of medium-range missile is only 73 percent limited by missile technologies, even lower in realistic conditions due to multiple external factors.

Second, human operation affects the hitting accuracy too. Some pilots are well-trained but some are not, not all of their real-combat operations are accurate, and misoperation may make the medium-range missile miss the target.

Third, modern warplanes are better at dodging BVR attacks, which further lowers the hitting accuracy of medium-range missile. Airplane has better maneuverability and consequently is more able to dodge the attack by medium-range missile, and modern warplanes are all equipped with advanced omnidirectional radar warning system and electro-optical jamming device, which help them detect the incoming medium-range missile in advance, so they can interfere in the attack with electro-optical jamming or avoid it, thus effectively undermining the hitting accuracy.
https://www.defense-aerospace.com/a...5/180024/china-joins-the-dogfight-debate.html

With the EAF, it's always been about tactics since the 1973 war where the EAF started having a lot of success against the IDF-AF towards the end of the war. Now they've changed their doctrine as technology has improved and use AWACs and EW extensively with the aircraft it has, namely the 8 E-2C Hawkeyes & Rafales. The F-16s are always operating with the Hawkeyes and now with the introduction of the Rafales and the MiG-35s, the tactics have improved greatly with GC support and the Protivnik-GE 3D surveillance radars -- which are actually designed for picking up stealth aircraft with their impressive range. Egypt has installed a few of these in strategic areas that pick up large swaths of territory. These feed incredibly important information to all systems, airborne as well as grounded and the rather complex Egyptian air defense network plays a huge role in the fighting doctrine. Keep that in mind especially with the S-300VM. It's not all about BVR engagement between a single aircraft and another, but a combined, sensory and informational warfare apparatus that works well with all the systems involved. The EAF has a lot of tools at its disposal to help it work around this shortcoming of the AIM-120 which means it's not the end all be all and certainly doesn't make our F-16 fleet useless by any means.

The 59N6E Protivnik-GE is a 3D mobile surveillance radar developed by Almaz Antey Concern to detect a wide array of airborne targets at a distance between 10 kilometers and 400 kilometers flying at altitudes of up to 200 kilometers. The radar system features a digital phased array antenna and digital signal processing system with the ability to perform target identification while providing the critical information to air defense systems as well as automated command and control (C2). The Protivnik-GE radar can detect targets flying at speeds between 60 and 8,000 kilometers per hour while tracking up to 150 airborne targets simultaneously. This radar system has been deployed within the Russian Armed Forces and was supplied to Egypt in 2017.
http://www.deagel.com/Sensor-Systems/Protivnik-GE_a003677001.aspx

 

[Philip the Arab]

On the other side, there was the tracked armored infantry fighting vehicle "Sinai 200", which came to light from the 200 war factory (the production and repair of armored vehicles) according to the directions of the President of the Republic to design and produce a tracked armored vehicle smaller than the famous Russian amphibious combat infantry vehicle "BMP". . In fact, it is very similar to it, in particular, it resembles the amphibious armored vehicle BMD-4 working for the Russian Air Force VDV and is capable of heavy parachute drop from transport aircraft.

The armor weighs 13.8 tons and the engine thrust is 400 tons (29 hp / ton) and its top speed is 65 km / h, and the number of its crew is 8 divided into a driver + Hikdar + 6 combatants.

The armored protection level against mines reaches the STANAG 4569 Level 4B that is able to withstand a mine explosion below the track or under the armored belly, as well as carrying fragments of 155mm artillery shells that exploded 30 meters from the armored vehicle, and bears armor piercing rounds up to 7.62 * 54 mm, and was taken into account, of course. That there be a balance between armor and the weight of the armored vehicle in favor of the speed and maneuvering factors.

There are two advantages to armored combat and survival equipment:

1- Providing it with a heavy 12.7 mm RCWS Remote-Controlled Weapon Station, to avoid the need for a dedicated individual to operate it and to ensure the greatest safety for the individuals inside.

2- Equipped with a Cage / Slat Armor similar to the Q-Net Armor network shield, which is designed to face the dangers of anti-RPG projectiles, and this shield is characterized by its cost of 50% - 60% less than the cage armor as well as its lighter weight which does not represent an additional burden on the engine and consequently It saves fuel consumption, not to mention the ease of disassembling and installing it on various types of armored vehicles as needed, and it is also possible to add an upper layer of it to protect the armored vehicle from above.

The armored vehicle is still in the testing and testing phase and will undergo many other modifications and developments. It still has time to enter the official service of the armed forces, and it is expected that it will appear at the EDEX-2020 exhibition, possibly in its final version, to learn more about its details and capabilities.

However, in any case, armored vehicles with this design and the available capabilities can work with Egyptian parachute units as well as amphibious landing forces from the two Mistral carriers, and could be the start of a new generation of Amphibious Infantry Fighting Vehicle that will evolve over time to contain Advanced combat, protection and survival technologies, such as 20 or 25 mm artillery and passive and active Protection Passive Protection System anti-armor interceptors.

 

[Type59]

Su 35 and mig 35 for Egypt will they carry AESA radars?

 

[Philip the Arab]

This could be a very important company for Egyptian armored vehicle development, allowing Egyptian made optics to be used.

 

[The SC]