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From the video and posted pictures, the difference between the Egyptian soldier and the Russian one is appalling....At least with the Russians, the Egyptians were allowed to participate instead of being spectators...
From the video and posted pictures, the difference between the Egyptian soldier and the Russian one is appalling....At least with the Russians, the Egyptians were allowed to participate instead of being spectators...
..we came twice and get your as...ses, out of the Jewish tukhas...I guess we know what we are talking about...To this day Egyptians haven’t learned a freaking thing from 73...Wow, will you look at that. An Algerian trying to teach us how to be proper soldiers. And I thought I'd seen it all.
..we came twice and get your as...ses, out of the Jewish tukhas...I guess we know what we are talking about...To this day Egyptians haven’t learned a freaking thing from 73...
Wow, will you look at that. An Algerian trying to teach us how to be proper soldiers. And I thought I'd seen it all.
Cey is an idiot but he is right on that first point.
I would like to hear your comments on that.
I think you're talking about the photo I've attached here plus a couple of things from the videos. There's a couple issues here with skill at arms;
1) Firing positions
The ultimate goal is to build a stable firing position. Building that position is made obvious by the marksmanship principles.
A) The position and hold must be firm enough to support the weapon.
The Para to the far right gripping the magazine is guilty of not having a firm enough hold of the weapon. When he fires the rifle will move in the shoulder and in the front hand, he likely won't reliably hit whatever he's aiming at.
B) The weapon must point naturally at the target without undue physical effort.
The two Paras in the middle are guilty here. Being they're holding the rifle up to the target rather than adopting a more natural position. They may be able to hit whatever they're aiming at initially but the physical effort of doing so will eventually fatigue their arms and torso leading to missed shots.
c ) Sight alignment must be correct.
They're generally alright here.
D ) The shot must be released and followed through without disturbing the position.
This is generally going to be the one all but the two on the left get wrong. Not having a firm enough hold of the weapon and being in a bad position with the rifle not naturally pointing at the target will disturb the firers position after every round, meaning you have to build it up again.
You want to be reliably hitting a target consistently as an infantryman, if you have to build up your position after every round then you wont.
The guys with the most stable firing positions in this photo are the first and second from left. Although the second from left could sit down a bit more into the position.
But don't get too caught up in this, everyone may have their own little quirks. If it works for them that is fine but the issue is when you start seeing a lot of people repeating the same thing, then something isn't quite right with training and coaching.
2) Safety
This is the stuff that's usually part of weapon handling;
A) Trigger discipline
First thing you get taught when handling a weapon is trigger discipline. This one is sort of self explanatory, if you don't touch the trigger a round won't be fired whether on purpose or negligently.
We see a lot of these cases (even by SF dudes) here on this thread so something is definitely amiss.
In one of the videos from the Ex with the Russians you clearly see an Egyptian Para run into a room sort of panic and then negligently discharge into the floor. His safety was off (which is understandable if you're using an AKM to clear a room rather than something with a simple thumb/finger selector that allows you to keep your trigger finger free) and his lack of trigger discipline let him down.
B) Muzzle flagging/discipline
This one is sort of unavoidable, when on patrol or doing any real world firing there are instances where you are going to flag your buddies. Where it starts getting dangerous is if you already have poor safety training standards and are doing things where you're firing while on the move with others in front of you.
Plenty of examples from photos here and in the recent Russian Ex footage you see a fireteam of Egyptian Paras running and gunning in a single file with one and behind the other. A single trip (which is extremely common for any of you who haven't been in the military/LEO/aggressive camping/LARP) and we get an incident.
C) Safety discipline
Plenty of footage with Egyptian soldiers patrolling or on Ex with their safety off whilst not in contact with the enemy. If you're not about to use the rifle then your safety should be on.
D) Pointing the weapon at someone in jest
You just don't do it.
These koreans really rival Japan and Germany
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During, and after, the Egyptian visit to south Korea... I think there were some rumors about assembling this howitzer in Egypt, and how that Egypt may prefer the South Korean option over other options, mainly because of the transfere of technology.
Also... Still waiting to hear any good and confirmed news about our interest inSouth Korean Corvettes and frigates. The same ofcourse goes to our deal with France, for the additional 12 Rafales (Any chance the numbercan be raised to 24 ???) and the GOWINDS, with any NH Hels and A-200 Egypt may be interested in.
I know how long arms dealsmevaluations and negotiations may take... But, I'm just too excited... We still have A LOT more to acquire... Specially in the Air force, and the Navy ofcourse.
Really hole ths Korean Howitzermay be the begining for a huge number of deals between Egypt and South Korea.