Egyptian Armed Forces

[Ceylal]

what's the effect of signing the CISMOA on the army?

It won’t affect the army, but it will the AirForce and the navy, if Egypt managed to get the latest of their aircraft and missiles.

 

[Kamil_baku]

Actually Egypt has its own IFF system..that was not the issue..

Can you show me that?

You cannot simply attach them and be able to shoot Israel. You need approval of UsA and whole cockpit production to really br able to do it..

 

[Kamil_baku]

https://twitter.com/x/status/977619809868201984

What do you think about this?

 

[Crocodile]

https://twitter.com/x/status/977619809868201984

What do you think about this?

Turkish news agency. Nothing to see here.

 

[The SC]

Can you show me that?

You cannot simply attach them and be able to shoot Israel. You need approval of UsA and whole cockpit production to really br able to do it..

Why should I? just do your search and you'll know for sure..it is an easy search..
What are you blabbering about?

 

[Kamil_baku]

Why should I? just do your search and you'll know for sure..it is an easy search..
What are you blabbering about?

You can keeping telling me many things, i will listen until i know things for sure... You simply cannot do it until you develop new cockpit like Turkey did with your own IFF and other sub systems. because novadays you can easily hide a code among millions of codes or keep backdoor to the system...

 

[Gomig-21]

Please don't forget about that, I need that response

Sorry for the delay, bro. I tagged you on this reply in SC's dedicated thread on the deal:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/egypt-signs-cismoa-agreement.549969/#post-10354943

I'm not very familiar with the topic but I believe the reason it was not signed under Mubarak was that It would have made our F-16s identify Israeli F-16s as "Friendlies". Not sure if that reason still matters today with new threats emerging around us and ties with Israel getting much warmer than before.

Meya meya, IFF definitely had something to do with it but it was mostly the capability of the IFF system that is available in the F-16s. They don't have the true IFF sensing capabilities, as in if when the pilot submits an IFF request into the interrogator, it responds back with an specific identification of "friend or foe" and that was kept out of all the F-16s and especially the last batch of block 52s which even came with the sensors but not the software. So the IFF that is used by the EAF is a much simpler system which is not as accurate as the one that the F-16 has and is capable of operating which makes critical wartime decisions much more effective and in real time.

Actually Egypt has its own IFF system..that was not the issue..

But not as optimal as the main IFF system that is in the F-16s, F/A-18s etc. that is used by almost all other F-16 operators. This would be a good thing to add now to the fleet should it get the Viper or any other upgrade. If so, you'll see all the other EAF F-16s with these sensors on the top of the noses, and not just the 19 blck 52s.

What do you think about this?

Since the moderators (sadly and unfortunately) don't moderate things very well on this forum (as evidenced by the despicable insults and vicious trolling they allow to happen,) do us a favor and as @Crocodile said, there is nothing to see here and this doesn't apply to anything related to the Egyptian military which is what this thread is about, open another thread somewhere else if you want to pedal and push that Turkish anti-Egyptian rubbish. I'm sure you'll get plenty of support and endless Egypt-bashing from the usual suspects without any retribution whatsoever. Thank you.

 

[Crocodile]

@Gomig-21 @The SC We need to start some discussion on the new emerging threats around us and how to upgrade Egyptian military capabilities to deal with them, including recent military deals and the signing of the CISMOA.

Now that the mad Sultan's campaign is in full swing, setting his sights on new cities in Iraq and Syria and who knows what else beyond them, we seriously need to up our game and prepare for a scenario where we may be forced into a showdown with a rogue NATO power.

 

[The SC]

@Gomig-21 @The SC We need to start some discussion on the new emerging threats around us and how to upgrade Egyptian military capabilities to deal with them, including recent military deals and the signing of the CISMOA.

Now that the mad Sultan's campaign is in full swing, setting his sights on new cities in Iraq and Syria and who knows what else beyond them, we seriously need to up our game and prepare for a scenario where we may be forced into a showdown with a rogue NATO power.

That is a legitimate request.. but I don't think "Sultan" will go beyond that.. and we understand that he has a huge problem with Kurds at home and in the neighboring countries.. so just sit and watch..Iraq might be more difficult to deal with.. but Kurds are still looking for trouble there..
Sultan is not the only one.. I am more concerned with the Usraeli "remainder" to all middle eastern countries of its bombing of the Syrian alleged Nuclear reactor.. We know that the UAE has started, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and also Sudan are going to build civilian nuclear reactors.. one Egyptian expert analyst said on RT, that it was Egypt that was targeted by the Usraeli "remainder".. but I personally believe it might be Sudan or anyone else..

 

[Crocodile]

Sultan is not the only one.. I am more concerned with the Usraeli "remainder" to all middle eastern countries of its bombing of the Syrian alleged Nuclear reactor.. We know that the UAE has started, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and also Sudan are going to build civilian nuclear reactors.. one Egyptian expert analyst said on RT, that it was Egypt that was targeted by the Usraeli "remainder".. but I personally believe it might be Sudan or anyone else..

I am not so sure about that. If they were intending to send a threat to us specifically, which would be a priority to them? A nuclear power plant that is 100% for peaceful purposes and isn't even built yet? Or the military arsenal operating on their very doorstep with airfields and command centers being established in the heart of Sinai?

 

[Kamil_baku]

That is a legitimate request.. but I don't think "Sultan" will go beyond that.. ad we understand that he has a huge problem with Kurds at home and in the neighboring countries.. so just sit and watch..Iraq might be more difficult to deal with.. but Kurds are still looking for trouble there..
Sultan is not the only one.. I am more concerned with the Usraeli "remainder" to all middle eastern countries of its bombing of the Syrian alleged Nuclear reactor.. We know that the UAE has started, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and also Sudan are going to build civilian nuclear reactors.. one Egyptian expert analyst said on RT, that it was Egypt that was targeted by the Usraeli "remainder".. but I personally believe it might be Sudan or anyone else..

Do you really believe that you can stop Turkey?
First get long range air to air missile..
You have huge problem without Saudi funds as what happened to morsi without their support.
You could take a lot of technology transfer by being friendly with Turkey. You choosed to be on the other side of history and will pay for advemture. You only luck is Turks look at Egyptians as Turks, thats why they dont go to hard yet. But revenge will happen in a soft way..

 

[Gomig-21]

@Gomig-21 @The SC We need to start some discussion on the new emerging threats around us and how to upgrade Egyptian military capabilities to deal with them, including recent military deals and the signing of the CISMOA.

Now that the mad Sultan's campaign is in full swing, setting his sights on new cities in Iraq and Syria and who knows what else beyond them, we seriously need to up our game and prepare for a scenario where we may be forced into a showdown with a rogue NATO power.

lol, "a rogue NATO power." Well played ya basha. That's a perfect description. Only problem is we are outnumbered by their representatives who with the exception of a few decent ones, have the posting mentality of a bull in a China shop. And they get away with it because they have unsolicited support from the forum nation members in general. It'll be a bloodbath of insults, chest thumping nationalism of the most brutal kind and would quickly tank from a civilized discussion into a filthy mud pit fight. Not exactly what I inspire to participate in bsara7a.

I am not so sure about that. If they were intending to send a threat to us specifically, which would be a priority to them? A nuclear power plant that is 100% for peaceful purposes and isn't even built yet? Or the military arsenal operating on their very doorstep with airfields and command centers being established in the heart of Sinai?

I would tend to agree with you on this meya meya. I'm waiting to see if there will be any pressure coming from the Israelis once the results of the operations are clear and things mellow out to a certain extent that they might come out full force with a push-back to the old status or the 3 zones demarcation. That could very well happen but I think it will only be diplomatic pressure. I don't think they want to start a fight like they used to. Things are much different now.

I would think hitting the new nuclear reactor in Egypt, a signatory of the NTP and a customer of civilian nuclear energy is a completely different story than hitting the camel shack in Syria.

Let's say by the wildest stretch of their imagination that they even thought of attempting such a silly thing, we would hope they remembered how many of their aircraft were falling like flies in 1973, and Egypt ADS is on a completely different level these days. The other thing would be how well prepared is the ADS to face ballistic missiles. This is why the S-300 needs to be supplemented big-time. We have so many more vital targets in our country than they do, which does put us at a disadvantage for sure.

 

[The SC]

I am not so sure about that. If they were intending to send a threat to us specifically, which would be a priority to them? A nuclear power plant that is 100% for peaceful purposes and isn't even built yet? Or the military arsenal operating on their very doorstep with airfields and command centers being established in the heart of Sinai?

Read a "remainder": to all enemy middle eastern countries.. this is according to their own news.. and Someone jumped on that and talked about Egypt..

Add this news:

Israel's Ramon Airport became ready for operation in Eilat

This one won't pose a threat to Egypt but directly to Saudi Arabia.. Jordan and Sudan mainly.. considering that the last attack on the latter came from there..!!!

 

[The SC]

lol, "a rogue NATO power." Well played ya basha. That's a perfect description. Only problem is we are outnumbered by their representatives who with the exception of a few decent ones, have the posting mentality of a bull in a China shop. And they get away with it because they have unsolicited support from the forum nation members in general. It'll be a bloodbath of insults, chest thumping nationalism of the most brutal kind and would quickly tank from a civilized discussion into a filthy mud pit fight. Not exactly what I inspire to participate in bsara7a.



I would tend to agree with you on this meya meya. I'm waiting to see if there will be any pressure coming from the Israelis once the results of the operations are clear and things mellow out to a certain extent that they might come out full force with a push-back to the old status or the 3 zones demarcation. That could very well happen but I think it will only be diplomatic pressure. I don't think they want to start a fight like they used to. Things are much different now.

I would think hitting the new nuclear reactor in Egypt, a signatory of the NTP and a customer of civilian nuclear energy is a completely different story than hitting the camel shack in Syria.

Let's say by the wildest stretch of their imagination that they even thought of attempting such a silly thing, we would hope they remembered how many of their aircraft were falling like flies in 1973, and Egypt ADS is on a completely different level these days. The other thing would be how well prepared is the ADS to face ballistic missiles. This is why the S-300 needs to be supplemented big-time. We have so many more vital targets in our country than they do, which does put us at a disadvantage for sure.

I am pretty sure the S-400 will come with the Dabaa reactors.. one should also think that they will be operated by Russians in the beginning.. And there is a chance to get the Patriot now.. and/or more S-300 systems for other important sites.. So all one can see is a wet Usreali dream..

 

[Harpcore_lover]

Egypt will not be given the S300,400 or the Patriot...Israel will not sign for it...The Russian are not that Creasy, and the US won’t be in any hurry upset their Tel Aviv hemorrhoids.

We already have 4 batteries of s-300vm
Man you so like hateful lol.