Egyptian Armed Forces

[Gomig-21]

Too bad can't understand that lingo. Certain words I hear all the time but have no clue as to their meaning.

Latest was this:

But IAF has been unhappy with the Russian FGFA called Sukhoi T-50 or PAK-FA because the jet lacks proper stealth and its engine does not have "enough thrust", which are among 43 critical modifications or shortcomings it pointed out earlier.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...h-full-tech-transfer/articleshow/57546519.cms

Thanks for the reply, Lord of Gondor. 43 critical shortcomings is easy to get alarmed by, but the reality is that even the F-16 had major issues during its development. Look at the F-35 as a recent example. Talk about a slew of super alarming issues and now that thing is on it's way to becoming the best fighter out there. USAF even wants to swap the F-22's software and avionics suite to that of the F-35. So it's probably not as bad as it seems. Biggest issue are the problems with the AL-41F1 engine. If it's true that Saturn is building a new engine at this point, that's a bit worrisome.

Currently the latest credible news is that we will proceed with the induction in a similar manner to how we inducted the Su-30MKI.
First we will purchase a number of off the shelf T-50s in the same configuration as the RuAF and later supplement them with the FGFA.
This parallels how we first inducted a squadron or two of the Su-30K before starting to induct the Su-30MKI.

However recently a high level committee has been created by the MoD to review the T-50/FGFA program and depending on their decisions our final induction program and schedule will be decided.

As for twin seater there is no official confirmation from either the IAF or Sukhoi.

Thanks, Topol. Good way to introduce it. I remember hearing about this when it first came out and always wondered why a twin-seater? Also, how? Looking at that unique canopy and how it slides to the rear and up (identical to the Harrier/AV-8B), a twin seater will need to be hinged to the rear or side, more likely the latter. How far would the Russians be with this program if it wasn't for India? The partial funding for the program and financing for the eventual 125 aircraft is insanely expensive. India will lead the road in the development of this jet so that others will end up benefiting, possibly Egypt.

 

[vostok]

KA-52 EGY

Another video

 

[MICA]

Another video

Anything changed other than the opto-electronic ?

 

[Gomig-21]

We have 270 Su-30MKI to replace so 125 should just be the first block buy.
Would love to see the plane in Egyptian colours.

Here's a cg image of the t-50 in desert camo. Hope the EAF might use a similar color scheme. It looks gorgeous.

Indeed! Even the mountains of the east coast of Egypt and Sinai in the background.

 

[HannibalBarca]

 

[The SC]

Gyes i want to see egypts missile system , as like atgm, mlrs etc.............

Tayer El-Sabah (Early bird)... Egyptian upgraded version of the soviet SA-2 volga missile with western electronics and some other good stuff

Egyptian army Amoon system sky guard

They are mostly improvement on existing systems!

 

[The SC]

Egypt owns Russian radar for early warning "Protivnik-GE": satellite images of an Egyptian early warning site showing ...

dlvr.it/P4W37V


PROTIVNIK-GE
Mobile 3-D L-band radar

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS:

Frequency band
L

Coverage:


range
10 to 400 km

azimuth
360 deg

elevation
up to 45 deg


altitude
up to 200 km

Airborne target detection range (RCS = 1.5 sq m)
340 km

Position measurement errors:

range
100 m (max)

azimuth
12 min (max)

elevation
10 min (max)

altitude
450 m (max)

Ground clutter suppression
at least 50 dB

Track capacity
150 targets

Target classes identified
8

Antenna
planar phased array

Data rate
10 / 5 s

Power consumption
100 kW

Deployment time
15 min (max)

Crew
3



The Protivnik-GE radar boasts high immunity to jamming and clutter, high detection accuracy, and high mobility.

CAPABILITIES

- detection, position measurement and tracking of strategic and tactical aircraft, ASALM-type missiles, and small-size, low-velocity aircraft;
- target class recognition;
- identification friend-or-foe;
- jammer finding;
- output of targeting data to fighter aviation and/or surface-to-air missile systems

OPERATIONAL FEATURES

- high degree of automation in operations;
- high immunity to interference;
- automatic output of radar data to two users simultaneously;
- automatic clutter map generation;
- adaptation to interference environment and to technical condition of the radar;
- built-in test system for functional checkout and monitoring of the hardware

http://www.redstar.gr/Foto_red/Eng/Other/Protivnik_GE.html#f

 

[The SC]

Indeed! Even the mountains of the east coast of Egypt and Sinai in the background.

Very sleek.. it is now testing the 5th generation engine made for it.. (see Air Warfare section)
Hopefully Egypt will get some squadrons

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Egypt in negotiation for local production of the CZ 807 (in the hundreds of thousands)

http://dlvr.it/P4Nbrw

And this is why:

"The CZ 807 is a standard individual weapon characterized by excellent reliability, durability and accuracy. It is one of the lightest weapons in its category with extremely good ergonomics. The weapon does not require complex maintenance and can be used in active duty for a long time. The basic stripping and reassembly of the weapon for routine maintenance may be performed without the use of any tools.

The materials used are non-flammable or fire-resistant, impact resistant and have a high resistance to mechanical damage. The controls are accessible from both sides. Other characteristics include folding telescopic stock and interchangeable backstraps in three sizes.

Changing caliber of CZ 807 assault rifle is simple: the barrel assembly, bolt and firing pin, and the magazine are changed out in a field safe operation at the unit level. The trigger group of the CZ 807 has a magazine well that is for the 7.62x39mm magazines. To convert to 5.56x45mm, the only item needed for the lower (Trigger group) is the magazine well insert."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CZ_807

 

[MICA]

 

[The SC]

 

[Gomig-21]

Looks like the DIRCM on the helo is different than the one in the bottom, little pic.

Here's the one on the current Russian Ka's and same in that illustration. (click image)

And here's the one on the Egyptian helo.

Apparently this is the Katran that was used as a test-bed for the Egyptian Ka's with the EOS and new DIRCM.

BTW, SC or any others: Does that armored plate protecting the pilot seem really big and obtrusive to the pilot's visibility? Looks like it blocks a lot of the view from the side which I would think is important. More importantly, what is it protecting the pilot/glass from?

 

[The SC]

Looks like the DIRCM on the helo is different than the one in the bottom, little pic.

Here's the one on the current Russian Ka's and same in that illustration. (click image)

And here's the one on the Egyptian helo.

Apparently this is the Katran that was used as a test-bed for the Egyptian Ka's with the EOS and new DIRCM.

BTW, SC or any others: Does that armored plate protecting the pilot seem really big and obtrusive to the pilot's visibility? Looks like it blocks a lot of the view from the side which I would think is important. More importantly, what is it protecting the pilot/glass from?

The Egyptian version obtained the OES-52 electrophoresis monitoring system while the Russian version uses the older version GOES-451

The Egyptian version obtained a better and improved version of the thermal missile dispersion system than the Russian version using the L-370-5

It is clear that Egypt has obtained the latest equipments found the Ka-52k version

Where a recent version of the maritime version appeared in the same monitoring system and the same protection system as Egypt's..

This advantage in procuring the Russian weapon is not found in the weapons imported from the West..

Egypt gets the latest updates for the weapon system that are not yet in service in Russia..

I hope that An AESA radar will be supplied for the Egyptian Mig-35 with respectable performance as soon as possible..
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As fa as the plate that seems to obstruct the pilot's vision, I think that is not really an obstacle and here is why:

1- OES-52: It integrates a FLIR, TV-camera and a battery of laser devices such as a laser rangefinder/target designator, laser-beam missile guidance system and laser pointer, installed on a gyro-stabilised platform.

2- President-S (advanced): The Defense System President-S, also referred to as BKO, is a fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft protection system designed to defeat incoming infrared-guided missiles by laser and radiofrequency/electronic jamming of the missile's seeker. President-S is intended to defeat primarily man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS) such as the Russian Igla and the United Sates Stinger shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles. KRET and Ekran tested this system firing Igla missiles at a President-S equipped Mi-8 helicopter fixed up on a special rig. During the tests, several missiles were fired from a distance of 1,000 meters with no missile reaching its target due to the highly effective jamming. The President-S system includes: control unit; radar warner; laser warner; missile attack warner; countermeasures dispenser of chaff cartridges, cartridges of infrared radiation, single use cartridges with transmitters, interference; no coherent optical-electronic suppression station; LSOEP laser jamming system; and SAP radiofrequency jammer. The President-S is one of the best aircraft protection systems developed for the Russian Armed Forces.
And is composed of the following:
- Control Unit named L370-01 Module responsible for complete Electronic warfare duties, it receives all the data from the warning sensors deployed on the structure of the helicopter and do the merging, analysis and display to the pilot to take defensive countermeasures.
- MAWS (Missile Approach Warning System) named L-136 Mak-UFM with detection range up to 50 km
- LWR (Laser Warning Receiver) named L140 Otklik It provides integrated protection at an angle of 90 ° horizontal and 360 ° vertical.
- RWR (Radar Warning Receiver) named L-150 Pastel It is derived from the version found on Su-30 fighter jets. It intercepts hostile radar waves from radar guidance systems as well as from radar detectors for anti-aircraft missiles and determines their location, direction and classification in terms of the level of risk/danger
- Radar Jammer (Electronic Countermeasures ECM) named L370-3 it takes care of Defensive Jamming against Air-to-air missiles and anti-aircraft radar systems. It works in conjunction with the L-150 Pastel system, which is responsible for intercepting and detecting the source of the radar, while the L370-3 system is interfering to jam them (Made for attack helicopters).
- DIRCM (Directional Infrared Countermeasures) named L370-5 it is responsible for jamming seekers working on ultraviolet and infrared. Egyptian version got an advanced version that uses a solid-state laser (depends for its generation on solid precious stones formerly on Ruby Laser or neodymium-YAG currently Nd-YAG Neodymium-doped Yttrium Aluminium Garnet, a Crystal provider factors Dopant to provide effective laser medium with wavelength in the infrared range) instead of using the Modulated radiation bundle of infrared and ultraviolet waves, as the current system on the Russian crocodile, it sends waves of lasers on rockets thermal / electro-optical seekers to confuse them and misled them away from the helicopter, it works at an angle of 360 ° horizontal and 90 ° vertical. (This system works on the marine version of a crocodile "Katran Ka-52K Katran" candidate to work on the Egyptian Mistral)
- Flares (Chaffs) named UV-26 which is a Thermal Flares and metallic Chaffs Release System, to Mislead/divert thermal and radar guided missiles..


So I do not see where the Alligator or the Katran pilots will have to use all that vision, since there is no dog fight for the helicopters and most of the threats facing them are covered by Electronic systems..The metallic plate will come handy against small arms munitions if the Helicopter is on the ground or flying at a very low altitude, two very rare occurrences for an attack helicopter..

Also it is important to note that in 2015 it was stated that:
" KRET is ready to expand the features of its aircraft carrier version of the Ka-52K, equipping it with upgraded, on-board radar. This will increase the detection range of the helicopter by 2 times, or almost 200 km. The upgrade will also enable the Ka-52K to utilize anti-ship missiles such as the X-31 and X-35, which previously could only be used with the Su-30 and MiG-29K."
http://www.deagel.com/news/Russian-Navy-Ka-52K-Helicopter-to-Receive-Zhuk-AE-Radar_n000013873.aspx
http://www.deagel.com/news/Russian-Navy-Ka-52K-Helicopter-to-Receive-Zhuk-AE-Radar_n000013873.aspx

 

[MICA]

Sa'ka

 

[MICA]

Inside the type 209

 

[Gomig-21]

The Egyptian version obtained the OES-52 electrophoresis monitoring system while the Russian version uses the older version GOES-451

The Egyptian version obtained a better and improved version of the thermal missile dispersion system than the Russian version using the L-370-5

It is clear that Egypt has obtained the latest equipments found the Ka-52k version

Where a recent version of the maritime version appeared in the same monitoring system and the same protection system as Egypt's..

This advantage in procuring the Russian weapon is not found in the weapons imported from the West..

Egypt gets the latest updates for the weapon system that are not yet in service in Russia..

I hope that An AESA radar will be supplied for the Egyptian Mig-35 with respectable performance as soon as possible..
===========================================================
As fa as the plate that seems to obstruct the pilot's vision, I think that is not really an obstacle and here is why:

1- OES-52: It integrates a FLIR, TV-camera and a battery of laser devices such as a laser rangefinder/target designator, laser-beam missile guidance system and laser pointer, installed on a gyro-stabilised platform.

2- President-S (advanced): The Defense System President-S, also referred to as BKO, is a fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft protection system designed to defeat incoming infrared-guided missiles by laser and radiofrequency/electronic jamming of the missile's seeker. President-S is intended to defeat primarily man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS) such as the Russian Igla and the United Sates Stinger shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles. KRET and Ekran tested this system firing Igla missiles at a President-S equipped Mi-8 helicopter fixed up on a special rig. During the tests, several missiles were fired from a distance of 1,000 meters with no missile reaching its target due to the highly effective jamming. The President-S system includes: control unit; radar warner; laser warner; missile attack warner; countermeasures dispenser of chaff cartridges, cartridges of infrared radiation, single use cartridges with transmitters, interference; no coherent optical-electronic suppression station; LSOEP laser jamming system; and SAP radiofrequency jammer. The President-S is one of the best aircraft protection systems developed for the Russian Armed Forces.
And is composed of the following:
- Control Unit named L370-01 Module responsible for complete Electronic warfare duties, it receives all the data from the warning sensors deployed on the structure of the helicopter and do the merging, analysis and display to the pilot to take defensive countermeasures.
- MAWS (Missile Approach Warning System) named L-136 Mak-UFM with detection range up to 50 km
- LWR (Laser Warning Receiver) named L140 Otklik It provides integrated protection at an angle of 90 ° horizontal and 360 ° vertical.
- RWR (Radar Warning Receiver) named L-150 Pastel It is derived from the version found on Su-30 fighter jets. It intercepts hostile radar waves from radar guidance systems as well as from radar detectors for anti-aircraft missiles and determines their location, direction and classification in terms of the level of risk/danger
- Radar Jammer (Electronic Countermeasures ECM) named L370-3 it takes care of Defensive Jamming against Air-to-air missiles and anti-aircraft radar systems. It works in conjunction with the L-150 Pastel system, which is responsible for intercepting and detecting the source of the radar, while the L370-3 system is interfering to jam them (Made for attack helicopters).
- DIRCM (Directional Infrared Countermeasures) named L370-5 it is responsible for jamming seekers working on ultraviolet and infrared. Egyptian version got an advanced version that uses a solid-state laser (depends for its generation on solid precious stones formerly on Ruby Laser or neodymium-YAG currently Nd-YAG Neodymium-doped Yttrium Aluminium Garnet, a Crystal provider factors Dopant to provide effective laser medium with wavelength in the infrared range) instead of using the Modulated radiation bundle of infrared and ultraviolet waves, as the current system on the Russian crocodile, it sends waves of lasers on rockets thermal / electro-optical seekers to confuse them and misled them away from the helicopter, it works at an angle of 360 ° horizontal and 90 ° vertical. (This system works on the marine version of a crocodile "Katran Ka-52K Katran" candidate to work on the Egyptian Mistral)
- Flares (Chaffs) named UV-26 which is a Thermal Flares and metallic Chaffs Release System, to Mislead/divert thermal and radar guided missiles..


So I do not see where the Alligator or the Katran pilots will have to use all that vision, since there is no dog fight for the helicopters and most of the threats facing them are covered by Electronic systems..The metallic plate will come handy against small arms munitions if the Helicopter is on the ground or flying at a very low altitude, two very rare occurrences for an attack helicopter..

Also it is important to note that in 2015 it was stated that:
" KRET is ready to expand the features of its aircraft carrier version of the Ka-52K, equipping it with upgraded, on-board radar. This will increase the detection range of the helicopter by 2 times, or almost 200 km. The upgrade will also enable the Ka-52K to utilize anti-ship missiles such as the X-31 and X-35, which previously could only be used with the Su-30 and MiG-29K."
http://www.deagel.com/news/Russian-Navy-Ka-52K-Helicopter-to-Receive-Zhuk-AE-Radar_n000013873.aspx

Did you make that OES and DIRCM highlighted collage? That's pretty spiffy, my friend!
That helo is a beast. Amazing how many gadgets it has on it.

At first I thought maybe the plate was some type of deflector from the weapons being fired off the wing pylons or something along those lines. Or even protection from that side-mounted gun since they did similar things like in the MiG-21 with gun gas deflector plates they installed on the fuselage, but it's mounted on both sides. But ask any helo pilot if they would like to have unrestricted view from the cockpit and I bet you most, if not all, would say probably yes despite all the visually aiding electronics. Just for being able to scan by eye to the sides while flying low or even looking out for clearances on tight landings and takeoff. The earlier models didn't have them, which made me think maybe it was protection from something off the helo itself. But your point that it's protection against small arms fire makes sense. Seems like a big sacrifice, but maybe not.

The information on the precious stones for the DIRCM laser is very cool. Good stuff, SC.