Egyptian Armed Forces

[Last Hope]

With all my Respect to the Seniors here .. many of u have a lake information about Egyptian Armed Forces .. and plz tell me which rumors, myths i said in this thread .. about ca-2000 i believe i mentioned the chairman of AOL/ACL , minister of military production statements about the jet fighter prog .. but no confirmation that its mig 1.44 or any .. and that's all about ca-2000 ...

If u want any links about buk-m/tor-m/mig-29/...../../ etc .. im right here .. !!

Tell us about the Mig-29, Su-30, Su-35 claims

 

[Amir_Pharaoh]

i dont know why are you laughing..
eygpt cant replace over 400 of its old aircrafts with expensive f-16s nor mirage 2000 as they are no longer there it can either go for russain plateforms
or chinese or it may simply reduce its number of aircrafts

No offense if eygpt is so excellent in production of aircrafts(dont confuse assembly with production) and hate Chinese stuff..then why are its all trainers(k-8) pakistani/Chinese in origin..

LOL ...
yeah right .. EGYPT cant replace over 400 of its old aircrafts !! .. No Money / No pilots / No country ready to sell new jets ..

Egypt dosen't hate Chinese stuff ! .. F-7 / K-8E (the best version with 33 modifications) / romeo subs / more ...

................The F-16s block 52 that egypt air force bought could be a replacement of any older equal number of airframes/squadron, there are no sources to identify if egypt is moving towards a large scale modernization despite crippled with no AMRAAM available in near or far future this F-16 Block 52 they are without fangs.

For ground launch systems, The SL-AMRAAM has been evaluated and maybe bought and deployed by egypt that's all, no to F-16s.

Confirm no mystery 20 Mirage 2000s with egyptian air force and that too are in deplorable condition along with Mirage Vs.

Sorry talk about inventory and confirm deals that egyptian air force has no su-30/35 no Mig 29s no nothing except for block 52 deal, cairo 2000 is a myth unless the name is tagged on FC-1 after assembly right in egypt in the future.............

The last deal about F-16 b52 .. US approved 24 to Egypt .. Egypt only accepted 20 .. Why that .. ?! ..

About Mirage-2000 numbers .. yes its a mystery .. its not only 19 .. ... there r many resources online refer 2 more than 19 .. there is 1 of them ..

"The $50-million contract allows GAMCO to pursue servicing and upgrade business on Mirage 2000s from other countries. For example, Egypt has 40 and Qatar has 12. Mirages also have been sold to Greece, India, Peru, Abu Dhabi and Taiwan."

Avionics Magazine :: UAE's Modernized Mirage

And Egypt doesn't produce parts for only 19 .. !


" Defense Production
..................
Air force equipment
• K-8/E Karakorum basic trainer and light attack aircraft
• Parts for F-16
• Parts for Mirage 2000
• Parts for Mystère-Falcon 50 executive aircraft "

-------------http://www.inss.org.il/upload/(FILE)1280140768.pdf----------------

"This Military Factory, affiliated with the Arab Organization for Industrialization (AOI), is engaged in the production of fighter jets and training aircraft; parts and components of the Mirage 2000 in addition to ....."

About Su-35 :

""Russia can supply MiG-29, Su-35 fighters to Egypt - Rosoboronexport
July 25, 2010 14:59
FARNBOROUGH. July 25 (Interfax-AVN) - Rosoboronexport is in technical consultations with the Egyptian Defense Ministry regarding possible supply of Mikoyan MiG-29M2 and Sukhoi Su-35 fighter aircraft, head of the Rosoboronexport's Department of Air Force Special Gear and Services Export Sergei Kornev told Interfax-AVN.
"We held a presentation of the MiG-29M2 and Su-35 aircraft for the Egyptian Defense Ministry. Technical consultations are under way," Kornev said at the Farnborough international airshow near London.
It is too soon to talk about negotiating the supply of these aircraft, he said. "In regard to aircraft, we are at the very beginning of the path," Kornev said.
The company signed with Egypt a contract for the supply of Mikoyan Mi-17V-5 helicopters, he said. "In regard to helicopters, we already have certain results," said Kornev, who heads Rosoboronexport's delegation at the airshow."

A very interesting discussion is going on above. I am really surprised by claims being made by our friend Amir Pharaoh

............. In Short, no Egyptian F-16 has ever been manufactured in Egypt.................

Yes .. thats true ..
I didn't say F-16s been manufactured in EG .. !!
Egypt refused an american military base back in 90s ..
So , we were able to manufacture F-16 in EG if we wanted to ..
But we don't accept what others do .. foreign military base / CISMOA ..

 

[Amir_Pharaoh]

china also supplied technicians for assemble f-17 what mean of this? if you buy fighters from far east they send technicians for assemble yes they send to pakistan too we have today active fleet of 192 F-7 of different variants and egypt 74 only so we claim we made them? these few you pick from here and there are not worthy i can made PDF files and can write HTML too .

China also supplied technicians for assemble f-7 what mean of this ?!!!!

You know .. more than that ... Egypt actually sold many F-7s assembled in egypt to Iraq (defence and foreign affairs november 1984) ..

again you underestimate them dear egypt or Tanzania togo every one know it well world is global village now. CA-2000 is only in 3D images of Russian canceled program and pics are copies from sites which are not famous for users as you remember once aviapress site and waiponstecnology sites and when i post link of that sites your think tank start bash on me as i bust the bubble of him these 3d and other images are there on net .if you have something serious post it otherwise you can simply say sorry its roomer and we hope it become true .simple dear. and ministers say things is not new for us we have ministers since 64 years they are giving us dreams and lying with public without any thing on ground .

Lol ..
Egypt not like Tanzania , togo , turkey or Pakistan ...
No foreign military base .. No CISMOA .. A LOT of violation its "end-user agreements" with the U.S. (8 different times over the prior three years !!)

A lot of weapons and equipments in service many years ago .. yet no 1 pic ..!!

And its a funny thing wat u said about minister of Military Production , Chairman of AOI ..
I think they said such statements for the pple votes .. u know .. elections campaigns .. !!

 

[EGYPT2100]

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Egypt dosen't hate Chinese stuff ! .. F-7 / K-8E (the best version with 33 modifications) / romeo subs / more ...


Romeo class is a soviet built in 50s..

K-8E is a Pak/China joint venture.

The last deal about F-16 b52 .. US approved 24 to Egypt .. Egypt only accepted 20 .. Why that .. ?! ..

Coz egypt didnt have enough to finance them?

About Mirage-2000 numbers .. yes its a mystery .. its not only 19 .. ... there r many resources online refer 2 more than 19 .. there is 1 of them ..

According to wiki there r 18 in service...20 were bought.


Mirage-2000M early version to be exact.

"The $50-million contract allows GAMCO to pursue servicing and upgrade business on Mirage 2000s from other countries. For example, Egypt has 40 and Qatar has 12. Mirages also have been sold to Greece, India, Peru, Abu Dhabi and Taiwan."

Avionics Magazine :: UAE's Modernized Mirage

What about them?

And Egypt doesn't produce parts for only 19 ..

" Defense Production
..................
Air force equipment
• K-8/E Karakorum basic trainer and light attack aircraft
• Parts for F-16
• Parts for Mirage 2000
• Parts for Mystère-Falcon 50 executive aircraft !

What f-16 parts?

Can u kindly post links.

About Su-35 :

This is just a CG not real.

"Russia can supply MiG-29, Su-35 fighters to Egypt - Rosoboronexport
July 25, 2010 14:59
FARNBOROUGH. July 25 (Interfax-AVN) - Rosoboronexport is in technical consultations with the Egyptian Defense Ministry regarding possible supply of Mikoyan MiG-29M2 and Sukhoi Su-35 fighter aircraft, head of the Rosoboronexport's Department of Air Force Special Gear and Services Export Sergei Kornev told Interfax-AVN.
"We held a presentation of the MiG-29M2 and Su-35 aircraft for the Egyptian Defense Ministry. Technical consultations are under way," Kornev said at the Farnborough international airshow near London.
It is too soon to talk about negotiating the supply of these aircraft, he said. "In regard to aircraft, we are at the very beginning of the path," Kornev said.
The company signed with Egypt a contract for the supply of Mikoyan Mi-17V-5 helicopters, he said. "In regard to helicopters, we already have certain results," said Kornev, who heads Rosoboronexport's delegation at the airshow.

This is a view tht russia can sell mig-29s and 35 to egypt and other countries nothing big.

I didn't say F-16s been manufactured in EG .. !!
Egypt refused an american military base back in 90s ..
So , we were able to manufacture F-16 in EG if we wanted to ..
But we don't accept what others do .. foreign military base / CISMOA .

Any country can build F-16s unless USA agrees and provides the tec support n industrial base for it.

---------- Post added at 05:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:53 PM ----------

China also supplied technicians for assemble f-7 what mean of this ?!!!!

You know .. more than that ... Egypt actually sold many F-7s assembled in egypt to Iraq (defence and foreign affairs november 1984) ..




Lol ..
Egypt not like Tanzania , togo , turkey or Pakistan ...
No foreign military base .. No CISMOA .. A LOT of violation its "end-user agreements" with the U.S. (8 different times over the prior three years !!)

A lot of weapons and equipments in service many years ago .. yet no 1 pic ..!!

And its a funny thing wat u said about minister of Military Production , Chairman of AOI ..
I think they said such statements for the pple votes .. u know .. elections campaigns .. !!

Assembling is not the same as manfacturing...the f-7s sold to iraq were "used" ex egyptian airforce/

 

[ziaulislam]

nooffensive but for three decades eygpt has been highest foreign militery aid receiver after israel per camp david agreement..most of the f-16s were finaced throught that,
if eygpt replaced its older aircrafts by chines stuff of k-8 and f-7 why wouldnt it choose jf-17..
that is the issue..especially after unconfirmed reports rosed regarding such news

 

[Manticore]

aamir , apart from mirages is there any other bvr platform ?

 

[Amir_Pharaoh]

Romeo class is a soviet built in 50s..

K-8E is a Pak/China joint venture.

Read about chinese ver. of Romeo ..
Read about Egyptian ver. of K-8

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Coz egypt didnt have enough to finance them?

According to wiki there r 18 in service...20 were bought.

Mirage-2000M early version to be exact.

Hahaha .. Yeah , Egypt has no money for more 4 F-16 .. !!
the military USAid -> 1.3 billion.. Egyptian GDP -> 400 billion ..

and plz stay away from Wiki .. otherwise .. u will c alot of links here talking about 100 Mirage-2000 + ** Rafale + SU-30 + SU-35 .... etc .. !!!!

What f-16 parts?

Can u kindly post links

Egypt F-16 Peace Vector

Egypt Achieves F-16 Repair Capability - MiddleEastNewsline

This is just a CG not real.

This is a view tht russia can sell mig-29s and 35 to egypt and other countries nothing big.

Any country can build F-16s unless USA agrees and provides the tec support n industrial base for it.

Anyway .. the future jet fighters .. basically.. will b from Russia .. the last big military deals were from Russia .. T-80/ Buk-M/ Tor-M/ Tunguska/ Smerch/ Mig-29/ Kilo subs ....etc

Any country can build F-16s unless USA agrees and provides the tec support n industrial base for it

Assembling is not the same as manfacturing...the f-7s sold to iraq were "used" ex egyptian airforce/

O yeah .. Any country can build F-16s !!
The f-7s sold to iraq were NOT "used" ex EAF .. were assembled in EG .. (defence and foreign affairs november 1984) .. another arabic sources mentioned that ..

 

[Manticore]

brothers

do you know about the egyption plane helwan 300 ?

cause i want to post a thread about it , and i do not know if any one esle talked about it before specially india was partner with egypt in that project

i have posted it couple of times in the fighter design thread

 

[Amir_Pharaoh]

aamir , apart from mirages is there any other bvr platform ?

Aim-7 sparrow .. (F-16s / F-4)
MBDA MICA .. (Mirage-2000 / Mirage-5 upg)
R-77 .. (Mig-29 smt2) / (Mig-29 m2 + Su-35 in the future)


CISMOA = Aim-120 AMRAAM

 

[EGYPT2100]

i have posted it couple of times in the fighter design thread

please give me links for your posts

 

[Amir_Pharaoh]

155 GH 52 APU


In accordance with a contract signed in 1999, Patria sold the Egyptian armed forces six 155-millimetre type 155GH52 field artillery pieces and one artillery piece mounted on a T-55 tank platform ..


Original Specifications
Weightr--------------------13,500 kg (30,000 lb)
Barrel lengthr--- ----------52 calibers
Caliber------------- --------155 millimetres (6.1 in)
Carriage Split trail, sole plate, auxiliary power unit and hydraulics
Elevation----------------- -5 to +70°
Traverse--- ---------- 65°
Rate of fire--- ---------- 6 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity--- ---------- 827 m/s (2,710 ft/s)
Effective range ---------- 30-40 km (19-25 mi)
Max Rate -------------------- 10 rounds/min
Ammo wt ------------------- 47 kg
Crew ----------------------- 7


Egyptian Specifications
Weightr--------------------10,300 kg (30,000 lb)
Barrel lengthr--- ----------52 calibers
Caliber------------- --------155 millimetres (6.1 in)
Carriage Split trail, sole plate, auxiliary power unit and hydraulics
Elevation----------------- -3 to +66°
Traverse--- ---------- 65°
Rate of fire--- ---------- 8 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity--- ---------- 920 m/s (2,710 ft/s)
Effective range ---------- 42 km
Max Rate -------------------- ?? rounds/min
Ammo wt ------------------- 43.6 kg
Crew ----------------------- 8

 

[EGYPT2100]

very ery great video , all must see

an egyption man ( the egyption spider man ) climb up the building in which there is the israeli embassy in cairo

he burned the israeli flag and raise up the egyption flag insteadof it , while demonestration in all over egypt against israeli killing for egyption army soldiers

allah akbar

the song in back is called - ana ya israel - for the egyption singer hamza namira

 

[Amir_Pharaoh]

Please Mr.EGYPT2100 ... Military Videos only !! ..

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Read about chinese ver. of Romeo ..

Read about Egyptian ver. of K-8

Lol... tht makes it a new product? we also have our P variant much advanced.. look at it.

Hahaha .. Yeah , Egypt has no money for more 4 F-16 .. !!
the military USAid -> 1.3 billion.. Egyptian GDP -> 400 billion ..

Im sure USA didnt beg egypt to buy their F-16s.. egypt wanted 24 jets later it reduced the order to 20.

Egypt F-16 Peace Vector

Egypt Achieves F-16 Repair Capability - MiddleEastNewsline

This doesnt mean tht egypt manufactures parts.... its same like our overhauling,repair and maintenance factories for F-7,F-16s,Mirages etc.

[Anyway .. the future jet fighters .. basically.. will b from Russia .. the last big military deals were from Russia .. T-80/ Buk-M/ Tor-M/ Tunguska/ Smerch/ Mig-29/ Kilo subs ....etc

Egypt doesnt have t-80,kilo,mig-29,smerch, or tunguska vehicle...

O yeah .. Any country can build F-16s !!

Yes ... everything comes from USA... U just need land and man power trained by USA.

The f-7s sold to iraq were NOT "used" ex EAF .. were assembled in EG .. (defence and foreign affairs november 1984) .. another arabic sources mentioned that ..

They were chinese made jets ... assembled in egypt... again Assembly is not the same as manufacturing..