Egypt Unrest: Mubarak Steps Down!
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Well that's highly irresponsible. It's so sad that the Us is being diplomatic at this point in time. hy hasn't the US spelt out what it considers ios the rigth option for the Egyptians. Why not come out with an official statement saying they want Mubarak to step down? I hope this doesn't carry on till tomorrow.
All I can see is that once the army is called in, high-handed measures will be taken, and there will be more violence. Why is there an unnecssary desire to pitch people of a country against each other?
All I can see is that once the army is called in, high-handed measures will be taken, and there will be more violence. Why is there an unnecssary desire to pitch people of a country against each other?
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Mubarak to stay until September
Agencies
Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak has said he will stay in office and transfer power after September's presidential election.
His comments appeared to confound reports he was preparing to stand down immediately, BBC news.
In an address on national television after 17 days of demonstrations against his 30-year rule, he praised the "youth of Egypt" protesting in Cairo.
But he said he would ignore "diktats from abroad".
Egypt's military had earlier said it was standing ready to "protect the nation".
"I express a commitment to carry on and protect the constitution and the people and transfer power to whomever is elected next September in free and transparent elections," Mr Mubarak said.
Ahead of Mr Mubarak's announcement, thousands of Egyptians had again gathered in central Cairo to call for him to step down.
Doctors, bus drivers, lawyers and textile workers were on strike in the capital yesterday, with trade unions reporting walk-outs and protests across the country.
Mr Mubarak, 82, had previously said he would leave office only after presidential elections due to be held in September.
Negotiations between the government and opposition groups have made little progress, with protesters disillusioned at plans for reform put forward by Mr Mubarak's government.
In recent days, the US government had stepped up its call for the protesters' concerns to be addressed.
Mubarak announced that he had put into place a framework that would lead to the amendment of six constitutional articles in the address late on last night, reports Aljazeera.
"I can not and will not accept to be dictater orders from outside, no matter what the source is," Mubarak said.
He said he was addressing his people with a "speech from the heart"
Earlier, the Supreme Council of Egyptian Armed Forces had met to discuss the ongoing protests against Mubarak's government.
In a statement entitled Communique Number One, televised on state television, the army said it had convened the meeting response to the current political turmoil, and that it would continue to convene such meetings.
Tens of thousands poured into Tahrir Square after the army statement was televised. Thousands also gathered in Alexandria, Egypt's second city, our correspondent said.
Earlier, Hassan al-Roweni, an Egyptian army commander, told protesters in the square that "everything you want will be realised".
Hassam Badrawi, the secretary general of the ruling National Democratic Party (NDP), told the BBC and Channel 4 News earlier on that he expected Mubarak to hand over his powers to Omar Suleiman, the vice-president.
"I think the right thing to do now is to take the action that would satisfy ... protesters," Badrawi told BBC television in a live interview.
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Mubarak to stay until September
Agencies
Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak has said he will stay in office and transfer power after September's presidential election.
His comments appeared to confound reports he was preparing to stand down immediately, BBC news.
In an address on national television after 17 days of demonstrations against his 30-year rule, he praised the "youth of Egypt" protesting in Cairo.
But he said he would ignore "diktats from abroad".
Egypt's military had earlier said it was standing ready to "protect the nation".
"I express a commitment to carry on and protect the constitution and the people and transfer power to whomever is elected next September in free and transparent elections," Mr Mubarak said.
Ahead of Mr Mubarak's announcement, thousands of Egyptians had again gathered in central Cairo to call for him to step down.
Doctors, bus drivers, lawyers and textile workers were on strike in the capital yesterday, with trade unions reporting walk-outs and protests across the country.
Mr Mubarak, 82, had previously said he would leave office only after presidential elections due to be held in September.
Negotiations between the government and opposition groups have made little progress, with protesters disillusioned at plans for reform put forward by Mr Mubarak's government.
In recent days, the US government had stepped up its call for the protesters' concerns to be addressed.
Mubarak announced that he had put into place a framework that would lead to the amendment of six constitutional articles in the address late on last night, reports Aljazeera.
"I can not and will not accept to be dictater orders from outside, no matter what the source is," Mubarak said.
He said he was addressing his people with a "speech from the heart"
Earlier, the Supreme Council of Egyptian Armed Forces had met to discuss the ongoing protests against Mubarak's government.
In a statement entitled Communique Number One, televised on state television, the army said it had convened the meeting response to the current political turmoil, and that it would continue to convene such meetings.
Tens of thousands poured into Tahrir Square after the army statement was televised. Thousands also gathered in Alexandria, Egypt's second city, our correspondent said.
Earlier, Hassan al-Roweni, an Egyptian army commander, told protesters in the square that "everything you want will be realised".
Hassam Badrawi, the secretary general of the ruling National Democratic Party (NDP), told the BBC and Channel 4 News earlier on that he expected Mubarak to hand over his powers to Omar Suleiman, the vice-president.
"I think the right thing to do now is to take the action that would satisfy ... protesters," Badrawi told BBC television in a live interview.
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This fat@ss won't go until he is dragged through the streets of Cairo by his underwear.
Omer Suleiman is the former head of intelligence and is reviled almost as much as Mubarak himself. The US is delusional if they think the Egyptians will be duped into accepting another US lackey in place of Mubarak.
Omer Suleiman is the former head of intelligence and is reviled almost as much as Mubarak himself. The US is delusional if they think the Egyptians will be duped into accepting another US lackey in place of Mubarak.
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Egypt will just go from 1 dictator to another. Why not just import a black strongman named General Monbuto. Sounds better than Mubarak and probably would do the same damage to Egypt at a far lower cost.
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Red Alert: The Egyptian Military's Options
February 10, 2011
The decision by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak not to resign seems to have shocked both the Egyptian military and Washington. CIA Director Leon Panetta spoke earlier as if his resignation was assured and a resolution to the crisis was guaranteed. Sources in Cairo spoke the same way. How the deal came apart, or whether Mubarak decided that transferring power to Vice President Omar Suleiman was sufficient cannot be known. What is known is that Mubarak did not do what was expected.
This now creates a massive crisis for the Egyptian military. Its goal is not to save Mubarak but to save the regime founded by Gamal Abdel Nasser. We are now less than six hours from dawn in Cairo. The military faces three choices. The first is to stand back, allow the crowds to swell and likely march to the presidential palace and perhaps enter the grounds. The second choice is to move troops and armor into position to block more demonstrators from entering Tahrir Square and keep those in the square in place. The third is to stage a coup and overthrow Mubarak.
The first strategy opens the door to regime change as the crowd, not the military, determines the course of events. The second creates the possibility of the military firing on the protesters, which have not been anti-military to this point. Clashes with the military (as opposed to the police, which have happened) would undermine the military’s desire to preserve the regime and the perception of the military as not hostile to the public.
That leaves the third option, which is a coup. Mubarak will be leaving office under any circumstances by September. The military does not want an extraconstitutional action, but Mubarak’s decision leaves the military in the position of taking one of the first two courses, which is unacceptable. That means military action to unseat Mubarak as the remaining choice.
One thing that must be borne in mind is that whatever action is taken must be taken in the next six or seven hours. As dawn breaks over Cairo, it is likely that large numbers of others will join the demonstrators and that the crowd might begin to move. The military would then be forced to stand back and let events go where they go, or fire on the demonstrators. Indeed, in order to do the latter, troops and armor must move into position now, to possibly overawe the demonstrators.
Thus far, the military has avoided confrontation with the demonstrators as much as possible, and the demonstrators have expressed affection toward the army. To continue that policy, and to deal with Mubarak, the options are removing him from office in the next few hours or possibly losing control of the situation. But if this is the choice taken, it must be taken tonight so that it can be announced before demonstrations get under way Feb. 11 after Friday prayers.
It is of course possible that the crowds, reflecting on Mubarak’s willingness to cede power to Suleiman, may end the crisis, but it does not appear that way at the moment, and therefore the Egyptian military has some choices to make.
The Egypt Unrest: Full Coverage | STRATFOR
February 10, 2011
The decision by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak not to resign seems to have shocked both the Egyptian military and Washington. CIA Director Leon Panetta spoke earlier as if his resignation was assured and a resolution to the crisis was guaranteed. Sources in Cairo spoke the same way. How the deal came apart, or whether Mubarak decided that transferring power to Vice President Omar Suleiman was sufficient cannot be known. What is known is that Mubarak did not do what was expected.
This now creates a massive crisis for the Egyptian military. Its goal is not to save Mubarak but to save the regime founded by Gamal Abdel Nasser. We are now less than six hours from dawn in Cairo. The military faces three choices. The first is to stand back, allow the crowds to swell and likely march to the presidential palace and perhaps enter the grounds. The second choice is to move troops and armor into position to block more demonstrators from entering Tahrir Square and keep those in the square in place. The third is to stage a coup and overthrow Mubarak.
The first strategy opens the door to regime change as the crowd, not the military, determines the course of events. The second creates the possibility of the military firing on the protesters, which have not been anti-military to this point. Clashes with the military (as opposed to the police, which have happened) would undermine the military’s desire to preserve the regime and the perception of the military as not hostile to the public.
That leaves the third option, which is a coup. Mubarak will be leaving office under any circumstances by September. The military does not want an extraconstitutional action, but Mubarak’s decision leaves the military in the position of taking one of the first two courses, which is unacceptable. That means military action to unseat Mubarak as the remaining choice.
One thing that must be borne in mind is that whatever action is taken must be taken in the next six or seven hours. As dawn breaks over Cairo, it is likely that large numbers of others will join the demonstrators and that the crowd might begin to move. The military would then be forced to stand back and let events go where they go, or fire on the demonstrators. Indeed, in order to do the latter, troops and armor must move into position now, to possibly overawe the demonstrators.
Thus far, the military has avoided confrontation with the demonstrators as much as possible, and the demonstrators have expressed affection toward the army. To continue that policy, and to deal with Mubarak, the options are removing him from office in the next few hours or possibly losing control of the situation. But if this is the choice taken, it must be taken tonight so that it can be announced before demonstrations get under way Feb. 11 after Friday prayers.
It is of course possible that the crowds, reflecting on Mubarak’s willingness to cede power to Suleiman, may end the crisis, but it does not appear that way at the moment, and therefore the Egyptian military has some choices to make.
The Egypt Unrest: Full Coverage | STRATFOR
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with all due respect, to my view you muslims got things slightly wrong.
what you want in Egypt, like an economist said on CNN the other day, is banks lending to all Egyptians at reasonable rates, and medium-to-high-paying jobs to not go to insiders of the elite only.
The leadership at the very top of the country is of less importance than the middle and higher layers of the economy.
And a "strong leadership" can often be an asset.
I do believe the muslim brotherhood unable to function as government. They might be good at running hospitals and charity, but as government leaders they're likely to go the way of Hamas; radicalism -> worse neighborly relations -> worse economy -> more of the problems Egyptians have today.
Yes, you do want the top levels of government to ram it into the elite that they should not be quite so elitist when it comes to the economy, but I believe that if Egyptians play their cards right they can get this from mubarak and suleiman too.
what you want in Egypt, like an economist said on CNN the other day, is banks lending to all Egyptians at reasonable rates, and medium-to-high-paying jobs to not go to insiders of the elite only.
The leadership at the very top of the country is of less importance than the middle and higher layers of the economy.
And a "strong leadership" can often be an asset.
I do believe the muslim brotherhood unable to function as government. They might be good at running hospitals and charity, but as government leaders they're likely to go the way of Hamas; radicalism -> worse neighborly relations -> worse economy -> more of the problems Egyptians have today.
Yes, you do want the top levels of government to ram it into the elite that they should not be quite so elitist when it comes to the economy, but I believe that if Egyptians play their cards right they can get this from mubarak and suleiman too.
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It seems Mubarak is staying he has support of Army that's all he needs. Eventually the protests will wane and numbers of protesters will come down.
Mubarak and police should get tough on looters and those disrupting law and order. People are being robbed, stores looted, from what reports are saying. If street crime continues Mubarak may get a whole lot tougher on street criminals. The large crowds act as a cover for criminals in the dark to loot, pick pocket, "feel up" women, of course things nothing new to Egypt but becoming rampant. By the way why is it that nearly every protester in Tahrir square are men, almost the entire crowd seems to be men. Little number of women attending compared to the number of men. For like every women out protesting there are 15 men just an estimate.
Mubarak and police should get tough on looters and those disrupting law and order. People are being robbed, stores looted, from what reports are saying. If street crime continues Mubarak may get a whole lot tougher on street criminals. The large crowds act as a cover for criminals in the dark to loot, pick pocket, "feel up" women, of course things nothing new to Egypt but becoming rampant. By the way why is it that nearly every protester in Tahrir square are men, almost the entire crowd seems to be men. Little number of women attending compared to the number of men. For like every women out protesting there are 15 men just an estimate.
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