Egypt to Train Iraqi Special Forces

[Malik Alashter]

@Frogman ,i dont get it,arent you in the Saudi camp?

Oh wow, you egyptians in the terrorism camp how come you train the anti-terrorism.

Egypt should stand firmly with turkey saudi qatari the terroro states camp!!! but wait you forgot egypt actually under attack of the terror groups.

 

[Bratva]

Honestly Jordan in particular have better quality than egypt also pakistan to some extent.

King Abdullah Special Operations Training Center would have been the best for Iraqi SF operators to gain invaluable Urban warfare experience.

This Crazy Complex In Jordan Is Like Disneyland For Elite Special Forces

But I guess there would be some sort of understanding with egyptians that they would bear all the expenses of your operators I guess ?

 

[Malik Alashter]

King Abdullah Special Operations Training Center would have been the best for Iraqi SF operators to gain invaluable Urban warfare experience.

This Crazy Complex In Jordan Is Like Disneyland For Elite Special Forces

But I guess there would be some sort of understanding with egyptians that they would bear all the expenses of your operators I guess ?

You mean they would pay for our soldiers training in egypt!? no sir we will pay for it.

Iraqi trained already trained in jordan in big numbers now I really don't understand their obsession with the OP forces also we have men of the old army who already training our PM forces OP's.

 

[Ceylal]

You mean they would pay for our soldiers training in egypt!? no sir we will pay for it.

Iraqi trained already trained in jordan in big numbers now I really don't understand their obsession with the OP forces also we have men of the old army who already training our PM forces OP's.

They would have had better luck being trained by Iran. Egypt nor Jordan have a field experience in that area...

 

[Hell NO]

Because the Iraqi DM is Sunni so he want to go to egeypt trust me I'd love to lash our DM 100 lashes for his chosen of egypt.

the Question why egypt or iran why not the Britain or france well why not the American since they trained our forces from the beginning.

With all due respect to egyptians brothers but their quality of training is not worth it we have more experience than you that why our PMF train them selves using their experience against isis and they've beaten the isis every time but it's sectarianism that ruling the mind of our minister of defense.

I think sectarianism is ruling the mind of every single one in Iraq not just the DM egypt would be a great choice to get away from all of that sectarian crap.

You are underestimating the capabilities of egypt and I don't think you know enough about Egyptian training to brand it as not worth it (please mention the reasons why you think that).
as for why not Britain or America they did before and it didn't end well so trying a new method doesn't seem to me like a bad idea + the same language etc and most importantly the same mindset which would make a big difference.
yes you have lots of experience fighting terrorism but it is never a bad idea to send your soldiers abroad to see what you can add on what you have.

Because the Iraqi DM is Sunni so he want to go to egeypt trust me I'd love to

 

[Hell NO]

Honestly Jordan in particular have better quality than egypt also pakistan to some extent.

Jordan has better facilities when it comes to classical terrorism like freeing hostages etc but modern terrorism like isis I think egypt would be better.

But really in my opinion what the Iraqi army lacks isn't training or equipments given that the Syrian army has less equipment and training and managed to last more and doesn't retreat as easily the Iraqi army lacks moral and,leadership.

 

[Multani]

Many from the Iraqi army received training in egypt before and I think the number of personal to be trained in egypt is huge but I don't understand why egypt but not iran.

Iraq is vying for Arab Support. There was always a feeling of Pan Arab in Iraq, despite some negative views against Egypt, such as Egypt not controlling the flow of wahabi terrorists into Iraq, a once common complaint in Iraq over the last decade.

Iraqis (and i am talking about the general Iraqi irrespective of sectarian affiliation, whether Sunni, Wahabi, Shia, Yazidi, Mandean, Ahle Haq,or ethnicity ) generally, do not like Iran, in contrast to what the media says

Most Iraqi Arabs are still pan Arabs. You can understand this by looking at Iraq's response to Turkey.

Because the Iraqi DM is Sunni so he want to go to egeypt trust me I'd love to lash our DM 100 lashes for his chosen of egypt.

the Question why egypt or iran why not the Britain or france well why not the American since they trained our forces from the beginning.

With all due respect to egyptians brothers but their quality of training is not worth it we have more experience than you that why our PMF train them selves using their experience against isis and they've beaten the isis every time but it's sectarianism that ruling the mind of our minister of defense.

typical sectarianism

 

[Frogman]

Because the Iraqi DM is Sunni so he want to go to egeypt trust me I'd love to lash our DM 100 lashes for his chosen of egypt.

This has nothing to do with religion. Egypt has supported the Iraqi Army with arms, training, and advisers before (when there was a Shia head of state) and will continue to do so.

the Question why egypt or iran why not the Britain or france well why not the American since they trained our forces from the beginning.

Common language, common culture, and meets your requirements. You are also by no means limited to training in Egypt. You are free to train wherever you like whenever you like depending on whether you reach a deal.

With all due respect to egyptians brothers but their quality of training is not worth it we have more experience than you that why our PMF train them selves using their experience against isis and they've beaten the isis every time but it's sectarianism that ruling the mind of our minister of defense.

I'm sorry you can not compare the PMF to any cohesive conventional military in the region. Plus, the gains made by the Iraqis and Kurds are down to coalition air power and foreign assistance (of which Egypt is a part). Without that assistance you would be trying to go up shit creek without a paddle.

Anyway, we're talking about the Golden Division (the spearhead of Iraqi Army opertions) here and not the PMF.

@Frogman ,i dont get it,arent you in the Saudi camp?

Egypt maintains an independent foreign policy which runs contrary to that of the KSA on several issues including Iraq and Syria.

They would have had better luck being trained by Iran. Egypt nor Jordan have a field experience in that area...

One of those nations has experience fighting IS on its borders and from within and was also a contributing partner to the international coalition against them in both Syria and Iraq. Jordan has experience.

The other is engaged in a brutal war against them in Northern Sinai and conducts military operations against them in the Western Region and Libya. Egypt has experience.

The Iranians on the other hand have only been exposed to IS through the IRGC not its conventional forces. Hezballah and Shia militias have had far more experience fighting IS than the Iranians. Even though the regime tends to actively de-conflict with IS wherever possible.

 

[Malik Alashter]

are down to coalition air power and foreign assistance (of which Egypt is a part). Without that assistance you would be trying to go up shit creek without a paddle.

With all do respect but trust me Iraqis without the coalition would be now free of isis. believe it or not.

 

[Malik Alashter]

typical sectarianism

Yes I AM just like you very sectarian to the bone if that relief you.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

Yes I AM just like you very sectarian to the bone if that relief you.

i want you to respond to what i said before and frogman said here
if we are sectarian and take our orders from someone else why were we the first to support iraq and her regime when nearly the whole world made his demands before supporting why do we oppose any action in syria that would harm the syrian army even more

 

[Malik Alashter]

i want you to respond to what i said before and frogman said here
if we are sectarian and take our orders from someone else why were we the first to support iraq and her regime when nearly the whole world made his demands before supporting why do we oppose any action in syria that would harm the syrian army even more

I didn't respond to you in that bro.

 

[Ceylal]

One of those nations has experience fighting IS on its borders and from within and was also a contributing partner to the international coalition against them in both Syria and Iraq. Jordan has experience.

It just the west propaganda machine to shore up the one sided coalition and the contribution of the arab states. Jordan does not have the mean to conduct any military action outside her territory.
the minute ISIS killed the Jordanian pilot, Jordan started parachuting arms to ISIS...

The other is engaged in a brutal war against them in Northern Sinai and conducts military operations against them in the Western Region and Libya. Egypt has experience.

Where in Sinai? most of the victims are bedouin hostile to any for government. ISIS whether it's real or fake, hasn't been eliminated like the Egyptian press like the world to believe.
In Libya, DAESH has a government in DERNA, what did Egypt do? So far nothing but arming Hafter against the UN resolution...
And the 28 Ethiopian hostage that Egypt claimed , it liberated and received in pompous display in Cairo, were picked up from a Libyan police station after their kidnappers dropped them off..All it's cinema...

 

[Hell NO]

Because the Iraqi DM is Sunni so he want to go to egeypt trust me I'd love to lash our DM 100 lashes for his chosen of egypt.

the Question why egypt or iran why not the Britain or france well why not the American since they trained our forces from the beginning.

With all due respect to egyptians brothers but their quality of training is not worth it we have more experience than you that why our PMF train them selves using their experience against isis and they've beaten the isis every time but it's sectarianism that ruling the mind of our minister of defense.

A small video thought it might change your idea of the "poor" egyptian training

 

[Malik Alashter]

A small video thought it might change your idea of the "poor" egyptian training

With all due respect, show me techniques about enemy engagements that's the most important training because that what saves your precious life of your soldiers not the martial arts.

do you remember malta incident where some Egyptian soldiers got killed.