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Egypt to refurbish forty-three (43) AH-64E Apache with a cost of $2.3 b

US military hand-out model:
  • Give only second-hand surplus junk that need major overhaul.
  • Make sure to sign a contract for maintenance, spare parts, upgrade, training, etc so that in the span of a few years US companies can make more money than the actual cost of BRAND NEW equipment.
  • All hand-outs must go to pro-US dictators, so that Americans' interests are served rather than the peoples of the Middle East.
  • Give them US weapons so that they won't develop it themselves, improve their tech, make useful alliances, create jobs, etc.
  • Make them DEPENDENT on America, so that they must do as we order them to.
  • Make sure they don't even think about defending themselves against Israel's expansionist policies.
  • Etc. etc.
 
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US military hand-out model:
  • Give only second-hand surplus junk that need major overhaul.
  • Make sure to sign a contract for maintenance, spare parts, upgrade, training, etc so that in the span of a few years US companies can make more money than the actual cost of BRAND NEW equipment.
  • All hand-outs must go to pro-US dictators, so that Americans' interests are served rather than the peoples of the Middle East.
  • Give them US weapons so that they won't develop it themselves, improve their tech, make useful alliances, create jobs, etc.
  • Make them DEPENDENT on America, so that they must do as we order them to.
  • Make sure they don't even think about defending themselves against Israel's expansionist policies.
  • Etc. etc.
- These were new when they came to Egypt, there are 10 more Egyptian new ones being made in the US
- Contracts for maintenance, spare parts, upgrade, training, etc..come with new weapon systems too
- All hand-outs must go to pro-US countries..logical.. or you want them to go to others too..
- Give them surplus US weapons.. why keep it when it is useless for the US and might still be used by allies
- Say who is not dependent on America apart a few major powers..
- Now yo are mixing the Palestinians under occupation with the rest of the Arab world..What about the mostly Western Turkish weaponry..?

WASHINGTON, May 7, 2020 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Egypt to refurbish forty-three (43) AH-64E Apache attack helicopters for an estimated cost of $2.3 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

The Government of Egypt has requested to buy equipment to refurbish forty-three (43) AH-64E Apache attack helicopters. This includes: eighty-eight (88) T700-GE-701D engines (86 remanufactured, 2 spares); forty-seven (47) AN/ASQ-170 Modernized Target Acquisition and Designation Sight/AN/AAR-11 Modernized Pilot Night Vision Sensors (MTADS/PNVS) (43 remanufactured, 2 new, 2 spares); forty-five (45) AAR-57 Common Missile Warning Systems (CMWS) (43 new, 2 spares); and ninety-two (92) Embedded Global Positioning System/Inertial Navigation Systems (EGI) (86 new, 6 spares). Also included are AN/AVR-2B Laser Detecting Sets, AN/APX-119 transponders, Identify Friend or Foe (IFF), AN/APN-209 radar altimeters, AN/ARN-149 Automatic Direction Finders, UHF/VHF radio, tactical AN/ARC-201E radio, APR-39 Radar Warning Sets, Improved Data Modems IDM-401, Enhanced Image Intensifiers EI2, Hellfire launchers M299, 2.75 inch 19 tube rocket launchers, M230 automatic guns, M230 spare gun barrels, MT06 initiators, cartridge actuated JAU-59, training devices, helmets, simulators, generators, transportation, wheeled vehicles and organization equipment, spare and repair parts, support equipment, tools and test equipment, technical data and publications, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated total cost is $2.3 billion.

This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that continues to be an important strategic partner in the Middle East.

Egypt intends to use these refurbished AH-64 helicopters to modernize its armed forces to address the shared U.S.-Egyptian interest in countering terrorist activities emanating from the Sinai Peninsula, which threaten Egyptian and Israeli security and undermine regional stability. This sale will contribute to Egypt's military goal to update its capability while further enhancing greater interoperability between Egypt, the U.S., and other allies. Egypt will have no difficulty sustaining these refurbished aircraft.

The proposed sale will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

The principal contractors involved in this program are the Boeing Company, Meza, AZ, and Lockheed Martin Corporation, Orlando, FL. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.

Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of any additional U.S. Government or contractor representatives to Egypt.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded.

All questions regarding this proposed Foreign Military Sale should be directed to the State Department's Bureau of Political Military Affairs, Office of Congressional and Public Affairs

https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sal...n0zJ9Os--5zXTUWMPALxJNjmFilFcJE_CIjRVzpxpKHK0
The Government of Egypt has requested to buy equipment to refurbish forty-three (43) AH-64E Apache attack helicopters..They are going to be upgraded in Egypt..

the gulf arabs destroyed Egypt literally by interfering with their money (which I hope they will lose it all one day) and Turkey want the revival of ottoman empire which Egypt can't be part of it due to its past here.
Don't make bad wishes like that..The GCC has stood with Egypt through crisis and good times all the time..

they are used aggressively in the operation on Libyan Boarders and in northern East Sinai against terrorists...
You are right in the maintenance issue .... but it seems for Apache it was not cost effective due to the limited numbers .... but now with the number 53 it must be a maintenance facility in Egypt .

but on the other hand you should consider 3 things:

1- this is not a pure maintenance.... it is a major upgrade that couldn’t be done in maintenance facilities.

2- Egypt has maintenance facilities for it’s 200 F-16s , all Russian Helicopters including regional facilities for other countries having Russian Helicopters to do it’s regular maintenance in Egypt.

3- Egypt is production M1A1 Tanks in Factory 200 and doing maintenance for it’s 1500 Tanks and transporting trucks that is produced in the same factory and for other countries as well
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The 10 new ones are the longbow

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/egyp...d-block-ii-apache-longbow-helicopters.535578/
 
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This 43 will be added to the already signed deal of 10 AH-64E = 54 AH-64E Apaches in the EAF In addition to 46 KA-52 ....
+ tens of other attack Helicopters like Gazelles and MI 28

Thus will be 200 - 250 Attack Helicopters available with EAF .

200-250 Attack Helicopters..... that's one hell of a firepower.....
 
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Let's be honest.
I'm Egyptian and indeed the american hardware in Egypt is downgraded due to our shitty neighbor israel.
but the face that these hardwares come from the aid not from our money is a good thing.

and I don't blame turks for anything in Egypt, it's just our governments since 1952 that blame others on our problems that these regimes created.

one last thing, I hope sisi burns in hell along with gulf leaders.

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Don't make bad wishes like that..The GCC has stood with Egypt through crisis and good times all the time..
Yeah and Egypt stood by Kuwait in iraqi invasion and we even refused Saddam proposal to share the kuwaiti oil with us.
we stood by saudia against iran.

we did for them all they did to us way before them.

Arabs compare Egypt who produce almost nothing with Turkey who develops around 700 military projects
Turkey will become real global military power but Egypt will always depend on the US,Europe and Russia
and Arabs says that Turkish economy is not doing well at all

Do you think Turkey has no money ? even between 2012 and 2020 Turkey spent over $60 billion for humanitarian aid to muslim Countries

Turkey would buy Egyptian+Israeli Armed Forces combined for $60 billion


since 2013 Turkey and Turkish economy under attack , still Turkey has bigger economy than Egypt+Israel combined
The army here has its own economy, way beyond your imgaination.

it has factories, farms , hotels etc.
 
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Let's be honest.
I'm Egyptian and indeed the american hardware in Egypt is downgraded due to our shitty neighbor israel.
but the face that these hardwares come from the aid not from our money is a good thing.

and I don't blame turks for anything in Egypt, it's just our governments since 1952 that blame others on our problems that these regimes created.

one last thing, I hope sisi burns in hell along with gulf leaders.


Yeah and Egypt stood by Kuwait in iraqi invasion and we even refused Saddam proposal to share the kuwaiti oil with us.
we stood by saudia against iran.

we did for them all they did to us way before them.


The army here has its own economy, way beyond your imgaination.

it has factories, farms , hotels etc.
You are not telling me any new thing about the Egyptian army..
And you talk more like an Albanian than a real Egyptian..mostly when you talk about Turkey..all your talk has a flavour of those banned Muslim brotherhood Late Morsi supporters..Just take a look what the GCC did to Egypt when it was in the gutter in 2013 and all the wars against Usrael where they have participated in..and too much things to enumerate here.. I advice you to go educate yourself before coming here and criticizing SiSi or the GCC.the majority of Egyptians will laugh at you..
 
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I had, and nothing happened....!

is the Turkish MODS protecting their home country members..!?

In all case here is the post ...

President MOURSI was elected by Egyptian People , not by Erdogan
also MOURSI never killed anyone ..... and Turkey-Egypt were allies , not enemies

the US-Israeli puppet dictator SISI killed over 5.000 Egyptians to make military coup for Israeli interests and millions of christian cops in Egypt

now smart Israel and Europe use Egypt-Greece as pawns to fight against Turkey to steal oil/gas reserves in the Eastern Mediterranean

even Italian ENI did not say to President MOURSI that discovered huge gas reserves






All those weapons can not make Egypt stronger ..... everbody will see it in a real war

Turkey was ready to help Egypt to create national defense industry

Egypt should create its defense Industry to become real military power .. but puppet SISI can not do it.
as like American puppet leaders did not allow developing even Rifle in Turkey since 2002

Thanks to president ERDOGAN who make Turkey as global defense industry
between 2002 and 2020 Turkish military projects have risen to around 700 from 20
 
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Ethiopia is nothing for Egypt

Egypt is preparing for conflict with Turkey ..... and since 2013 daydreamer SISI buys tons of weapons and provoke Egyptian Armed Forces against Turkey





Egypt itself can not finance to buy all those weapons

every year the US gives billion dollars to Egypt to work for Israeli interests

Following the peace treaty with Israel between 1979 and 2019 the US has provided Egypt with $83 billion in bilateral foreign aid. In 2019 alone Egypt was allocated $1.3 billion in the US military assistance

making Egypt the second largest non-NATO recipient of the US military aid after Israel


also KSA gave $10 billion to SISI to make military coup against MOURSI to destroy alliance between Egypt and Turkey
Sorry my friend your theory of Israel is wrong here this was a combined sale with UAE. Israel had nothing to do with this sale. It is a combined sale of $2.8 billion

https://www.defensenews.com/global/...pache-updates-for-egypt-excess-mraps-for-uae/
 
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Unbelievable...a poor country has no an explicit foreign enemy but get over than 200 attack helos. No research, No sience, No investment... But non stop purchasing weapons from abroad...

How they will meet the annual cost of repairments, maintenance, upgrades and spare parts of these expensive weapons in next years. ???
 
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Seems awfully expensive for just 43 units. Somebody is clearly getting ripped off. The price you gotta pay for political protection.
 
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Arabs compare Egypt who produce almost nothing with Turkey who develops around 700 military projects
Turkey will become real global military power but Egypt will always depend on the US,Europe and Russia
and Arabs says that Turkish economy is not doing well at all

Do you think Turkey has no money ? even between 2012 and 2020 Turkey spent over $60 billion for humanitarian aid to muslim Countries

Turkey would buy Egyptian+Israeli Armed Forces combined for $60 billion


since 2013 Turkey and Turkish economy under attack , still Turkey has bigger economy than Egypt+Israel combined

The US actively destroyed Arab states whom took the path of producing (weaponry). The US does not target you, if they did you'd be in hell now decades ago.

This is something the average PDF retard never grasps. When Israel aided Iran with nuclear tech in the 70's it was on the basis that they are not Arabs and are hostile to the Arabs. This level of trust/aid would never be given to any Arab country, regardless of who rules it.

Iraq used to be leading in the Arab world, took steps to self-produce and worked in the nuclear field. We saw how much effort the US took to stop it. The GCC is developed but paid a high price for it, they are highly dependent on the US and avoided producing critical weapons themselves. The step towards that wouldn't go unnoticed in the west.

Another example is Egypt which is not allowed to buy AIM-120 AMRAAM due to its close proximity to Israel, whilst Turkey is allowed to do so.

The reasons are not surrounding incapability, the capability to go on that path is there and has been taken before. Funnily enough these incapability attacks always come from unskilled labor such as you in the west.

As a bonus, do us a favor and provide something new instead of the endless copy pastes.
 
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Sorry my friend your theory of Israel is wrong here this was a combined sale with UAE. Israel had nothing to do with this sale. It is a combined sale of $2.8 billion

I am not talking about this sale
I am talking about $83 billion the US military aid to Egypt since 1979 the peace treaty with Israel
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why ?

because of Israeli interests .... no more Egypt is threat to Israel and Egypt has destroyed more than 3,000 tunnels along its border with the Gaza Strip in the past five years

Tunnels are a lifeline to the beleaguered Gaza strip which has been blocked from Land, Air and Sea



In all case here is the post

yes In all case here is the post

Erdogan Regime has Egyptian people’s blood on his hands ..... as long as that dictator NATO proxy in the Islamic nations Erdogan in power ..... nothing will happen.
 
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Let's be honest.
I'm Egyptian and indeed the american hardware in Egypt is downgraded due to our shitty neighbor israel.
but the face that these hardwares come from the aid not from our money is a good thing.

and I don't blame turks for anything in Egypt, it's just our governments since 1952 that blame others on our problems that these regimes created.

Honestly, I supposed that I would read something “Turkey sponsored terrorism, Egyptian blood in Turks hand, Turkey supplied weapon to terrorists in Egypt, Egyptian ISIS is a Turkish thing, Kill Turks in Medditerranean, they want Ottoman lands back, kill them all hurraa huraaa” like childlish, stupid slogans and lies mostly generated by media sponsored by gulf dictators and its supporters in other countries. These lies are being used to keep hostility alive against an imaginary external enemy (wants Egypt lands ☺️), while same lies are being used to hide the real sins/intention of Gulfies and their satellites charged by sheding the blood of Egyptians. At present, Gulfies are generally flooding money to prepare a large army controlled by a dictator appointed by themselves against an external enemy/enemies and You know Nothing costs free in geopolitic matters. When the correct time came, they will ask your faithfulness in any politic and military matter and In future, They may attempt to use Egyptian blood for the sake of their political benefits in region again. At the end of the day, It will be the same Egyptian people who will suffer under the benefits of Gulf leadership games inside Egyptian borders. Anyway, It seems If a member are purified from these systematically generated lies in Gulf labratories, The logic becomes crystal clear like that.
 
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I am not talking about this sale
I am talking about $83 billion the US military aid to Egypt since 1979 the peace treaty with Israel
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why ?

because of Israeli interests .... no more Egypt is threat to Israel and Egypt has destroyed more than 3,000 tunnels along its border with the Gaza Strip in the past five years

Tunnels are a lifeline to the beleaguered Gaza strip which has been blocked from Land, Air and Sea



yes In all case here is the post
You are most welcome to discuss the political implications of Egypt & Israeli peace deal & weapons sales in by making a thread in middle east section, this is a weapons sale and such threads are not allowed to go off topic. Hope you will be cooperative and help here and improve your past posts to stay on subject at hand.
 
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