Egypt signs $2 billion deal for 50 MiG-35 fighter jets from Russia

[Ali_Baba]

Egyptian Airforce doesnt have MIG-35 with Zhuk-AE AESA Radar and OLS-13SM-1 IRST

Egyptian Airforce has MIG-29M2 with Zhuk-ME pulse-doppler Radar and without IRST

Wow, why did they order a new fighter in this day and age without the AESA variant? Odd/silly mistake..

 

[The SC]

Wow, why did they order a new fighter in this day and age without the AESA variant? Odd/silly mistake..

MiG-35 Shows Off New AESA Radar at MAKS 2019

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/25357/MiG_35_Shows_Off_New_AESA_Radar_at_MAKS_2019

 

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I am saying again Egypt doesnt have MIG-35 with AESA Radar and IRST
Egypt has MIG-29M2 without AESA Radar and IRST

 

[Mithridates]

I am saying again Egypt doesnt have MIG-35 with AESA Radar and IRST
Egypt has MIG-29M2 without AESA Radar and IRST

just an small correction, all mig-29s had/have IRST systems. it kinda is the whole point of the mig-29, to gain air superiority in close ranges. even our A models have that:

 

[The SC]

just an small correction, all mig-29s had/have IRST systems. it kinda is the whole point of the mig-29, to gain air superiority in close ranges. even our A models have that:

Nope.. The Mig -35 is a whole new system..google it and see for yourself..

 

[Mithridates]

Nope.. The Mig -35 is a whole new system..google it and see for yourself..

i know it's ols-35, ours is ols-29. they both are irst.

 

[The SC]

i know it's ols-35, ours is ols-29. they both are irst.

It is about much more than that.. the carbon fiber in the body, the fly-by-wire, more fuel, more and better missiles the AESA radar, the EW and much more..

 

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MIG-35 has Zhuk-AE AESA Radar and OLS-13SM-1 IRST
Egyptian Airforce has MIG-29M2 with Zhuk-ME pulse-doppler Radar and without OLS-13SM-1 IRST


Turkish Airforce F-16s have great technology ... thanks to CCIP modernization for $3.9 billion

-- 163 CCIP modernized F-16 block52 standart
-- 29 F-16 block50M

the MIG-29 is not a continuous 9 G machine like F-16
and what about MIG-29 Pilots ?

Turkish F-16 pilots use JHMCS helmet displays targeting information on the helmet visor to allow pilots to lock-on and attack air to air ... ( JHMCS+AIM-9X air to air missile )
The systems gives flight crew members the ability to rapidly acquire and designate a target simply by looking at it

JHMCS provides support for raster scanned imagery to display FLIR/IRST pictures for night operations and provides collimated symbology and imagery to the pilot

also SPEWS-II is an advanced, internally mounted self protection electronic wwarfare system specifically designed for F-16C Block 50 Fighter Jets

Aselsan has started deliveries of 60 SPEWS-II to the Turkish Airforce

-- Radar Warning Receiver (RWR)
-- Electronic Countermeasures (ECM) Suite
-- Deceptive RF jamming
-- Intelligent control of chaff/ flare dispenser systems

also Night Vision Cueing and Display (NVCD)




The JHMCS provides the pilot with "first look, first shot" high off-boresight weapons engagement capabilities. The system enables the pilot to accurately cue onboard weapons and sensors against enemy aircraft and ground targets without the need to aggressively turn the aircraft or place the target in the Head Up Display (HUD) field-of-view for designation. Critical information and symbology, such as targeting cues and aircraft performance parameters, are graphically displayed directly on the pilot's visor

Pilots depend on JHMCS to successfully execute air-to-air and air-to-ground tactical missions during daylight
NVCD/ ANVIS system is now matured to expand this critical capability to night missions

Turkish F-16s were the first F-16s outside the USAF to receive LANTIRN pods.
Its first LANTIRN equipped Block 40 F-16C in February 1994 and total of 158 F-16s were modified to accept LANTIRN ( Low Altitude Navigation and Targeting InfraRed for Night )

Aselsan has started deliveries of ASELPOD next generation targeting pods to the Turkish Airforce for day and night operations

Link-16 Tactical Data Link

Link 16, Military Aircraft as well as Ships and Ground Forces may exchange their tactical picture in near real time. Link 16 also supports the exchange of text messages, imagery data and provides two channels of digital voice

SEAD/DEAD Role with exceptional results

CCIP modernized F-16s are equipped with the APG-68(V9) Radar, a secure-voice communication system, new radar warning receivers and the ability to carry and launch the AGM-88 HARM anti radiation missile , AGM-84 SLAM-ER and SOM Cruise Missiles for true SEAD capabilities

-- 130 km AGM-154 JSOW
-- 150 km AGM-88 HARM anti radiation missile
-- 280 km AGM-84 SLAM-ER Cruise Missile
-- 280 km SOM Cruise Missile
-- also soon 150+ km KGK-LR glide Bomb with IIR seeker


Aselsan AESA Radar is being pitched for integration on the Turkish air force's fleet of F-16s after 2022

also Egyptian MIG-29M2s dont have cooperative engagement capability

Turkish Airforce F-16s have cooperative engagement capability....(network centric warfare)

-- F-16 Block50M/52 Fighter Jets
-- LINK-16 data link
-- 120km AIM-120C7 networked air to air Missiles
-- 4 of Boeing E7T AEWCs with MESA Radar ... ( to detect small Fighters from 370km away and large Fighters from 485 km away )

Egyptian Airforce MIG-29M2 armed with 80km R-77 air to air missiles have no chance against Turkish Airforce F-16s armed with 120km AIM-120C7 air to air missiles in BVR combat


Turkish Airforce trained Pakistani Airforce for BVR combat

even India is not happy with its Russian made R-77 missiles and India wants to replace Russian R77 air to air missiles with Israeli DERBY-ER air to air missiles

What troubles the Indian Air Force was that Pakistani Aiirforce was able to destroy an Indian Jet from long range. Among the Indian Air Force's Fighters which were targeted were 2 Sukhoi-30s which managed to evade the AIM-120C5s which were fired at close to their maximum range of 100 km. Fully defensive and desperate to escape the incoming AIM-120C5s
the IAF Sukhoi-30s escaped being shot down but were unable to retaliate the F-16s because they were out of position and their own missiles, the Russian R-77s did not have the range to realistically engage the Pakistani Fighters. the Russian R-77 missiles do not match its advertised range and cannot engage targets which are more than 80 km away

 

[sami_1]

One of the Seven Wonders of the World is compared to Turkey and Egypt
Members and readers must be respected and their intelligence respected

When armies and air forces are compared, the comparison is comprehensive and also by all standards, not manipulation of numbers or manipulation of imaginary specifications.
1 - Missing standards
2 - Driving efficiency
3 - Efficiency of individuals and specialists
4 - Available experiences
5 - Combat creed
6 - Self-confidence and just cause
7 - Reinforcement efficiency
8 - Efficient use of weapons and resources
9 - Reinforcement provides Good job
10 - Availability of common weapons systems and
good use of them


Egypt cannot be compared to Turkey in any case, not because of the delusions of Turkish industrial superiority and that Turkey is a country that has a developed air industry. These things cannot be explained by its lack of reality.

Rather, because Turkey is an occupied country with 28 NATO bases, and no Turkish would dare to enter any NATO bases

Turkey does not have talents
Turkey is a country defeated in all its wars during the past 100 years
Defeated in World War I
Stored in World War II
The Greek Air Force suppressed and shot down the Turkish 16 thousand planes and the Syrian Air Defense Force shot down the Turkish Venom

The Kurds manipulated the Turkish army and caused him tremendous losses. Turkey did not win over the Kurds. Turkey still kills one of its soldiers every week. Soldiers in Kurdistan

No one respects the Turkish army or recognizes its competence, in fact, it is essentially for whom they are talking


How can the great Egyptian army be compared to an army that has been stripped and defeated from the inside?

Where do you call it Turkish and Erdogan army separated most of the army command and expelled

Turkey has dismissed 18,630 military members since failed 2016 coup: ministry


Turkey separated 300 pilots from the Turkish Air Force, despite the contraction of the Turkish Air Force with the exit of the Phantom planes, and also the consumption of large hours of the age of the 16 thousand planes, and after the exit of the 5 thousand aircraft

Let's see the truth of things

Numerous senior and field-grade officers were purged. More than 300 F-16 pilots were dismissed. This defanged the Turkish military as a political threat, and strengthened the value official rule of Erdogan and his neo-Ottoman Justice and Development Party, which has imprisoned many journalists. But it left a gaping question: who would be left to fly Turkey's jet fighters?


https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/turkey-how-one-country-destroyed-their-own-air-force-110581



Turkey has several problems at once

The lack of pilots, as well as the lack of professional pilots as a result of the exit of most of the experienced pilots from the air force by expulsion and separation, as well as early exit to work for civilian airline pilots to provide them with a better income

You either collapsed, and an air force was destroyed

Turkey suffers from a western armament ban now, which affects the illusion of Turkish superiority in the military industry


" Italy, the top arms exporter to Turkey last year, said it would join a ban on selling weapons and ammunition to Ankara after a weekend decision by France and Germany to suspend sales, and Spain signaled it was ready to do so. "

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...les-to-turkey-but-avoid-embargo-idUSKBN1WT0M4




Let us clarify simple things
Failed to produce a Turkish fighter jet TFX No engine No foreign countries will cooperate with Turkey in manufacturing the fighter In Britain did not provide the engine Eurojet EJ200 in favor of the production of advanced training aircraft or Turkish fighter

America expelled Turkey from the project of 35 thousand

Turkey now has a catastrophe, but it does not find fighters entering service

Neither the Russians will provide them with the SU-35 nor the SU-57

The Turkish Altay tank project has failed since 2008
we are in 2020 Germany ban MTU engines finished

You are facing a country that has a ban, sanctions, and technology transfer to Turkey

So now Turkey
Turkey lost competencies in its army, lost pilots, Turkey lost leaders and air planners
Western technology lost
ban arms

It is trying to get the spare parts of the 16 thousand before completing its ban a year ago


Erdogan has already destroyed the Turkish army


Let's move on to the next point, the misery of the Turkish military industry, and the photos will explain this in the following post

 

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Thanks to brave Turkish People and great leader Erdogan who kicked American lapdogs traitor FETO linked Generals and soldiers out of the Turkish Armed Forces since 2016

now the Turkish Armed Forces are free and 100 times stronger and kicked enemies in Syria,Iraq,Somali,Qatar,Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean


-- Egypt can not match with even 1.000 ISIS terrorists in Sinai ..and Israel always kicked Egypt,Syria,Iraq combined
-- Greece is the biggest loser in history who lost whole Anatolia including Costantinople
-- Turkish Army killed over 120.000 terrorists since 1985 and loser Pkk could not take even 1cm2 of land from Turkey
-- Turkish Army kicked Pkk/Ypg in Syria and destroyed Rojava dream
-- Turkish Airforce shot down 4 Syrian Rejime Fighter Jets and 9 Helicopters since 2014


and Turkey doesnt need ww2 war concept pathetic Tanks .....
Turkish Army 1250+ Leopard2 , SABRA-3 and M-60TTS Tanks are enough for
Greece,Iran,Iraq,Syria in the region

Turkey has great UCAV technology ( Bayraktar TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI and soon MIUS ) to destroy enemy Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , Air Defense Systems , Attack Helicopters and Warships ..... ( Egypt is dreaming about this UCAV technology )

We prefer 250 Turkish UCAVs instead of 1.100 M1A1 Tanks of Egyptian Army which will be destroyed in a few days


Egypt is nothing to compare with Turkey in military power , in economic power , and in soft power


Egypt can buy useless weapons from The US , Germany , Italy , France and Russia ... Egypt has no even its own IFF System , battle management system , national data link , software , etc to for the synchronization among the american-french-russian weapon systems

and Egypt doesnt have defense industry who can not produce even cruise missile

Egypt easily will be crushed in a war as like 1968

 

[sami_1]

Turkey has always claimed that it is militarily superior and that it is a sophisticated factory for unmanned aircraft and consequently from the limited Turkish weapons that have been tried in theaters of operations are unmanned aircraft and the result and the truth was catastrophic and very great Turkish calamity because it simply clarified the badness and humility of the Turkish weapon but also its validity

In the war against the Kurds, the Kurds shot down about 70 Turkish drones
In Libya and Syria, what has been shot down exceeded 50 aircraft during the past six months at least, which shows that they are complete scandals and ineffective weapons.





https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/u-s...am-with-turkey-over-syria-incursion-1.8498869

Turkish drone scandals and Erdogan's corruption

Baykar Makina, the private Turkish drone maker with family ties to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, will receive government support to expand output.

The company plans to invest 600 million liras ($106 million) to increase its production of unmanned aerial vehicles, according to a presidential decree published Thursday in the nation’s official gazette. The investment will double Bayraktar TB2 drone production to 92 units per year, while adding the capacity to manufacture 24 Akinci armed drones and 36 other combat drones, according to the decree.

Government support includes tax breaks but not purchase guarantees.

Baykar’s chief technology officer is Erdogan’s son-in-law Selcuk Bayraktar, who is described on the company’s website as the “chief architect of Turkey’s first indigenous, operational UAV systems.” Erdogan’s other son-in-law, Berat Albayrak, is the nation’s treasury and finance minister.

Turkish-made drones have ended the military’s dependence on UAVs leased from Israel and dramatically increased its capacity to track and attack autonomy-seeking Kurdish PKK militants within the country, as well as in Iraq and Syria.


Turkish drones are also being used in Libya, according to Tripoli government officials who spoke to Bloomberg on condition of anonymity. The drones rival Chinese and United Arab Emirates-operated drones supporting warlord Khalifa Haftar.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...maker-gets-government-support-to-boost-output

 

[Agha Sher]

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One of the Seven Wonders of the World is compared to Turkey and Egypt
Members and readers must be respected and their intelligence respected

When armies and air forces are compared, the comparison is comprehensive and also by all standards, not manipulation of numbers or manipulation of imaginary specifications.
1 - Missing standards
2 - Driving efficiency
3 - Efficiency of individuals and specialists
4 - Available experiences
5 - Combat creed
6 - Self-confidence and just cause
7 - Reinforcement efficiency
8 - Efficient use of weapons and resources
9 - Reinforcement provides Good job
10 - Availability of common weapons systems and
good use of them


Egypt cannot be compared to Turkey in any case, not because of the delusions of Turkish industrial superiority and that Turkey is a country that has a developed air industry. These things cannot be explained by its lack of reality.

Rather, because Turkey is an occupied country with 28 NATO bases, and no Turkish would dare to enter any NATO bases

Turkey does not have talents
Turkey is a country defeated in all its wars during the past 100 years
Defeated in World War I
Stored in World War II
The Greek Air Force suppressed and shot down the Turkish 16 thousand planes and the Syrian Air Defense Force shot down the Turkish Venom

The Kurds manipulated the Turkish army and caused him tremendous losses. Turkey did not win over the Kurds. Turkey still kills one of its soldiers every week. Soldiers in Kurdistan

No one respects the Turkish army or recognizes its competence, in fact, it is essentially for whom they are talking


How can the great Egyptian army be compared to an army that has been stripped and defeated from the inside?

Where do you call it Turkish and Erdogan army separated most of the army command and expelled

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Turkey has dismissed 18,630 military members since failed 2016 coup: ministry


Turkey separated 300 pilots from the Turkish Air Force, despite the contraction of the Turkish Air Force with the exit of the Phantom planes, and also the consumption of large hours of the age of the 16 thousand planes, and after the exit of the 5 thousand aircraft

Let's see the truth of things

Numerous senior and field-grade officers were purged. More than 300 F-16 pilots were dismissed. This defanged the Turkish military as a political threat, and strengthened the value official rule of Erdogan and his neo-Ottoman Justice and Development Party, which has imprisoned many journalists. But it left a gaping question: who would be left to fly Turkey's jet fighters?


https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/turkey-how-one-country-destroyed-their-own-air-force-110581



Turkey has several problems at once

The lack of pilots, as well as the lack of professional pilots as a result of the exit of most of the experienced pilots from the air force by expulsion and separation, as well as early exit to work for civilian airline pilots to provide them with a better income

You either collapsed, and an air force was destroyed

Turkey suffers from a western armament ban now, which affects the illusion of Turkish superiority in the military industry


" Italy, the top arms exporter to Turkey last year, said it would join a ban on selling weapons and ammunition to Ankara after a weekend decision by France and Germany to suspend sales, and Spain signaled it was ready to do so. "

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...les-to-turkey-but-avoid-embargo-idUSKBN1WT0M4




Let us clarify simple things
Failed to produce a Turkish fighter jet TFX No engine No foreign countries will cooperate with Turkey in manufacturing the fighter In Britain did not provide the engine Eurojet EJ200 in favor of the production of advanced training aircraft or Turkish fighter

America expelled Turkey from the project of 35 thousand

Turkey now has a catastrophe, but it does not find fighters entering service

Neither the Russians will provide them with the SU-35 nor the SU-57

The Turkish Altay tank project has failed since 2008
we are in 2020 Germany ban MTU engines finished

You are facing a country that has a ban, sanctions, and technology transfer to Turkey

So now Turkey
Turkey lost competencies in its army, lost pilots, Turkey lost leaders and air planners
Western technology lost
ban arms

It is trying to get the spare parts of the 16 thousand before completing its ban a year ago


Erdogan has already destroyed the Turkish army


Let's move on to the next point, the misery of the Turkish military industry, and the photos will explain this in the following post

The number of false claims and inaccurate numbers are uncountable. Are you living under a rock?

 

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Keep dreaming with your lies , dream is free

in reality

-- Turkish Army kicked Pkk/Ypg in Syria and destroyed Rojava dream
-- Turkish Bayraktar TB-2 and ANKA-S UCAVs changed game in Idlib/Syria and Libya

ASSAD , HEZBOLLAH , IRGC sucked in Idlib/Syria
HAFTAR , Russian WAGNER , Egypt and The Uae sucks in Libya

also Turkish Armed Forces blocked French and Italian Ships to steal oil/gas reserves from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

also Turkish Army is in N.Cyprus , Iraq , Somali and Qatar to protect national interests

so we dont care about puppets

 

[Mithridates]

It is about much more than that.. the carbon fiber in the body, the AESA radar, the EW and much more..

i did not say they are the same plane, i mean every mig-29 and it's derivatives have IRST and it is an essential part of their role and capability.

 

[sami_1]

The T-129 helicopter project has suffered from many problems since its inception and the Turkish army's lack of desire for this metamorphosis, and the project has been deferred for several years.

Therefore, it was supplied to the Turkish police and border guards to suppress the Turkish army at any coup attempt

But experience is best proof

On the first attempt to use my operations against the Kurds, it was shot down on the first sortie, which made it clear that it got a complete failure sign and does not have any defense systems in 2018, so Turkey did not dare use the plane in any theater so that it could provide it with electronic protection systems that it has been following from the ground up for several years. For weeks, Turkey has released pictures of electronic protection systems for this light plane, which, of course, is not comparable to any attack aircraft such as Apache or Kamov 52, as major heavy attack planes for armies with much more effective capabilities and effectiveness than this Turkish play.

https://www.thedefensepost.com/2018/02/10/turkey-t129-atak-helicopter-shot-down-afrin/

And because it was not suitable for service, Turkey updated it to be able to carry laser warning systems to try to make it viable to catch them from being caught on the battlefield.

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/25831#.XqLjNpmxVDA

The ATAK Phase 2, equipped with a laser warning system and upgraded electronic warfare systems, successfully carried out its

With the ban on the export of engines and losses, Turkey's export markets to Turkey

Turkey announced a project for a larger attack helicopter plane because the T-129 did not meet the real demands because it has weak capabilities compared to the main planes.

Such as AH-64 / KA-52 / MI-28
These planes bear work in highly hostile combat environments and carry shields in some parts to carry 23-gauge bullets and carry electronic warfare systems so that they can survive the Turkish sparrow growth. Enough of the earth's countermeasures is enough to kill them.

With the ban on the export of engines and losses, Turkey's export markets to Turkey

Turkey announced a project for a larger attack helicopter plane because the T-129 did not meet the real demands because it has weak capabilities compared to the main planes.

Such as AH-64 / KA-52 / MI-28
These planes bear work in highly hostile combat environments and carry shields in some parts to carry 23-gauge bullets and carry electronic warfare systems so that they can survive the Turkish sparrow growth. Enough of the earth's countermeasures is enough to kill them.

The Nile crocodile cannot be compared to the Asian cricket

We are still with the scandals of the so-called Turkish military industry

Turkish manufacturers should thank the Kurds, the Libyans, then the Syrians
We'll explain why

Within two years, the Kurds managed to destroy 500 Turkish armored vehicles, which caused the Turkish army to request more armored vehicles to compensate for the massive losses, as usual.

The Libyans have a sense of humor and fun is evident to them because they are very happy to destroy dozens of armored vehicles and may have exceeded the destructive numbers of 100 armored vehicles and also their seizure of many of them so that Libya will compete in Turkey independently in exporting the Turkish armored vehicles that took place in the families of the various countries that want Turkish scrap

The Libyans named Lamis at the Kiri armored vehicles, which are produced with Israeli components, primarily in the concept of a double failure of the Turkish industry and Israeli components.

One of the Turkish armored vehicles was kidnapped and raped