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Egypt signs $2 billion deal for 50 MiG-35 fighter jets from Russia

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Now successor is pakistan Army
Arabs, Palestinians, Indina, Rohingya, or actually paksitanis?
Why don't you show your real flag, endian? Only an endian will write Pakistan like you have written above.
I have read comments from Israeli members, they never talked about Pakistan like this. Only you (endians) guys talk like this.
 
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And hopefully get JF-17 Block III, or FTC-2000G.
 
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Well look at 1948-1965-1971-1998 wars..
With enemey that out ranks us by 1:10

Apart from civil war that led to creation of bangaldesh we did fine
India is not Israel, India is a incapable nation without the same political ties.
 
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And hopefully get JF-17 Block III, or FTC-2000G.
Jf17 isnt an option for eygpt
Need to focus on using it f16 better by trying to get the AIM120 or asking usa to allow third party BVRs

Next focusing on back bone aircraft that eygpt can manfactur and maintian at higher sortie rate(kinda like what we did first with mirage and than with jf17)

India is not Israel, India is a incapable nation without the same political ties.
Noone helped isreal in arab - isreal war
Apparently they didnt need help..
Taking sina from eygpt was down right embrassing in my opinion

Anyway this is no longer important as arab-israel are friends now
 
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Thanks to this poor Turk MMM-E who explains who is unreasonable and who does not understand

Let us let you know how things are, you are still a young child who needs care, education and discipline

I explained in advance that the Egyptian combat capability is more than 50% higher than the Turkish fighting capacity by having better equipment than Turkey owns and more efficient and varied than that of Turkey which depends on a single fighter. F-16

A little credibility I hope so that people can accept the sincerity of your words

You are talking on the harpoon missiles and SOM and ATAMACA

The Turkish stockpile of Harpoon missiles is 250 km

Egypt also seized 240 Harpoon missiles from the US, but there is a big difference between Egypt's Harpoon missiles and Turkey's.

Egypt since 1998 ordered the Harpoon missiles AGM-84 BLOCK II

It updated its stockpile of harpoon missiles by 2003 to the level of BLOCK II, while Turks lived Harpoon Block II

Other side turkey and dreams and did not fly or get to limited numbers of this model, even the main model of Turkey low-level performance




When you mentioned the possession of the Scalp missiles and the possession of Egypt 50 Missile stupid peerless from you and put a naive scenario, Turkey possesses 500 SOM missiles and this on the ground the service

When I mentioned one model, I also mentioned the Apache missile, the KH-59 missile and Russia several years ago. They carried out live tests of the KH-35 and CLUB-A missiles to urge Egypt to contract them


That is simply the actual stocks on the ground for Egypt

Of its series of missiles is greater than what Turkey is talking about

For example, illustrate symbolic numbers


I owned 240 Harpoon missiles

It had 200 Exocet missiles

130 OTOMAT Missile
100+ missile C-705

200 Kh-31 missiles

100 Kh-59 missiles

200 CM-302 missiles

Egypt received Bastion coastal missile batteries also


You are talking on the sub-Sonic ATAMCA missile, which does not exceed Exocet and Harpoon Performance.

C-705/KD Since 2011, Egyptian production is taking place while you are dreaming of producing your subsonic missile in 2020

Egypt also obtained the CM-302 missile production license in 2017
To replace Egypt's stock of missiles HY-2, HY-4

You as a Turk did not understand what I meant a

When you have one missile like a harpoon anti-ship only as a real missile in the Turkish arsenal and limited numbers of missile Penguin


It simply means your missile capabilities are limited and prone to the inefficiency of this only weapon you have while Egypt versus this missile puts 4-5 missiles in against Turkish navy can face this variety of missiles different performance and different direction and speed patterns of missiles under the sound and ultrasonic ignorance Turkish Navy is unable to Countering a different arsenal of hostile missiles, while the Egyptian navy's air force as a result of their well-functioning Harpoon missile capabilities can simply be overcome. You have a real problem. The story of Turkish missiles under development cannot be lost. In your hand a weapon and not in your hand the fantasies and naive dreams

Simply put, Egypt runs military production operations at the lowest cost and highest results, unlike the Turks who have already failed in the arms race.

Let's show a simple example

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Egypt produced 1,200 Abrams tanks from 1992 to 2018

I got 540 tanks at a price of $ 1 billion

It obtained 650 tanks at a cost of about 3 billion dollars

That is, 4 billion dollars, including 150 million dollars of domestic production line



Turkey has spent $ 670 million to develop 170 M60 tanks

From South Korea, licenses for the production of 550 million dollars for the K2 tank and the acquisition of four tanks ready from South Korea and the cost of developing the engine 400 million dollars.

The number of tanks expected to produce Germany did not even agree to supply 250 engines to Turkey for the production of the first batch The cost of production of each tank 13 million euros



In return for the project of the Turkish tank Altay

Egypt has contracted with the Russians to produce 1000 T90MS tanks and a center for the maintenance and reconstruction of 90 tanks for the Arab and African countries.

And we develop local active protection system while

Against zero new Turkish tanks

Turkey how much was spent on the ANKA plane as a development program and how many of the aircraft developed 10 aircraft and 3 command and control centers at a cost of 296 million dollars

While Egypt got

10 WING LOONG aircraft priced at $ 1 million per aircraft

It has contracted and produced domestic WING LOONG 1-D aircraft for 64 million dollars

And got 10 aircraft CH-5 at a price of 55 million

Next to a new contract for WING LOONG II


China announced that it is negotiating with Egypt on the CH-7

Turkey is reeling

And we have produced a local series of small drones like LIPAN M3 & ASN-209, Yarara, cabure

Besides the manufacture of target drones and the conversion of numbers to reconnaissance aircraft operating turboprop engines and turbo jet Egypt has become a larger fleet of Turkey much of the domestic production and import at the same time


You will find that Egypt has created maximum cost-effectiveness

Top 100 from Turkey, which is essentially getting Israeli technology and reselling it to Arab and African countries by redesigning the Israeli weapon from the exterior


Simply put, Egypt is producing French Patroller with a local contract of 30 aircraft

At the same time, it is assembling 32
Wing loong I_d aircraft


Locally licensed by China with local development and European parts of the French plane to upgrade their efficiency

This makes Egypt meet its needs of the planes at a balanced and reasonable cost while the Turks with limited technology drone Kurds downed 70 aircraft during the two years of war with the Turkish army and in Libya was shot down and destroyed 23 Turkish drones other than the problems of Turkish aircraft Bayraktar Tactical, which as a result of Erdogan fixed relations The factory is being forced into the Turkish army despite a complaint

Turkey, its producer, has not had operational success to be flaunted at all

So we find that Egypt was able to establish a large store of drones as a result of international programs forklift, while the Turks with their local production has not been able to get their needs fully yet.

You were talking that Egypt could not develop even an anti-tank missile. Things do not pull this logic. Egypt was getting free weapons from the United States for $ 1.3 billion annually. Also, with the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, Egypt obtained tactical and strategic weapons from Russia and Ukraine in the 1990s. Armored tanks and tanks which made the Egyptian military arsenal of weapons is very huge

Consequently, there was no need to establish a military industry urgently

As the situation changed, Egypt moved to eastern and European armaments. Egypt began to develop its industry

There are cases worthy of study to clarify the reality of things and the actual capabilities of each state anti-tank missiles and drones where biting fancy, including the Turks themselves that they have industries and this reflected on their military capabilities and that their military industry reflected on the growing war capabilities for them, but on the ground things are different

Turkey is manufacturing a number of drones are new manufacturers

We see the ANKA project delayed 5 years from the original date and then Turkey is launching new projects and preparing on Israeli drones as a real capacity for them, but Egypt had other trends in the possession of huge quantities of drones from a number of sources and also build a local manufacturing base


You are naively speaking that Egypt cannot develop an anti-tank missile, and I have made it clear that Egypt was simply getting free weapons from America through 1.3 billion military aid besides arms surpluses from Western Europe.

And the accumulation of weapons stocks


Currently, with the change in the situation, Egypt has turned to the rapid local manufacturing

I got production licenses

HJ-12

HJ-8

KORNET-E

Egypt was producing Tow, Swing Fire and AT-3 missiles. At the time, Turkey did not produce any anti-tank missiles in the 1980s.



Egypt is currently developing a new anti-tank missile to replace the Tao missiles

The same is true in the field of warships

You simply invested a lot of financial resources in return for the effectiveness of a limited fact. You lost the battle before you always start.

Germany banned MTU engines and was unable to produce the Altai tank

If Israel blocks the body armor and parts of the BMC KIRPI, production will stop

You as a Turk cannot understand that the battle between Egypt and Turkey began with Egypt's designation of Turkey as a current enemy of Egypt in 2008 when Erdogan was expelled from Sharm El Sheikh and we were able to remove the Muslim Brotherhood from the Middle East and make Turkey accused of international terrorism and expose its sponsorship of ISIS.


We came to clear points Egypt was able to create an anti-Turkey collar that loves it and Egypt's relations and alliance with these countries

Greece Cyprus Syria Iraq Armenia

Egypt created the Middle East Gas Forum and Turkey was identified as an enemy of the Eastern Mediterranean countries and classified as a thief of gas and not accepted in the Forum and Egypt has become the focus of liquefaction and collection of gas in the Eastern Mediterranean, we have implemented what you dream of yourself, but for ourselves only


Even Turkey's attempt to steal Cypriot gas has placed it under European sanctions and France will also supply Greece with MdCN missiles with a range of 1000-1400 kilometers for the Greek submarines TYPE-214 and Belharra frigate francs.

Besides the protection of France and Italy of the Cypriot gas fields and the protection of the business of Eni and Total in Cyprus.


You are talking about Turkish Submarine and Turkish naval units

First, Turkey does not have qualified cadres for the war, including cadres command dives as a result of the massacres against the Turkish army officers, including the Navy


Turkey also does not own TYPE-214 submarines. It has been contracted since 2008 and has not been able to acquire one of them without creating illusions about weapons that do not exist.

The other point of Turkish dives is their actual ability to navigate and work efficiently with unqualified and untrained crews and what ammunition the UGH-84 will launch again.


Military Power

Consists of good armament capable of working at sea efficiently and not numbers on paper

Staff is qualified to operate and manage the weapon

Commanded in the field of military planning for battles

Qualified leaders to lead the navy

Political leadership, not a leader or ISIS leader

You miss almost everything and create an illusion and this is wonderful because they demanded this is the way of the Turks in thinking and war, naturally that his mother remains defeated and any war you will loss

nice

Without the naivety of Turkey, you have to understand as a limited mind that when Turkey gets a plane, Egypt will be in service before several planes.

You talk on a missile like SOM and forget that Egypt now Russian production lines are producing the first batch of SU-35 aircraft to Egypt, which will receive Egypt in 2020 the number of 10 aircraft along with a huge amount of ammunition


Egypt is negotiating the second batch of 50 MiG-35s to be acquired between 2020 and 2020


While Turkey has been expelled from the F-35 program and has no engine for her article dreams and cannot even ask the US to assemble a new batch of 16 thousand, Turkey will not get the EJT-2000 engine for the advanced training plane it dreams of producing, not even the TFX plane.


You always talk about the future and illusions will develop Turkey will produce Turkey These are not facts are not products Are you going to fight the Egyptian army paper and projects designs on paper Do you think Egyptians naive

Egypt is currently negotiating new early warning planes with Sweden Negotiating with Russia on transport planes and early warning planes and the second batch of MiG-35 and France on a new batch of Rafal and awaiting the delivery of SU-35 contracted while you are siege and all your military pawns are allowed by the Europeans Americans cannot serve within a single aircraft under Western sanctions against you


You think you will get something and Egypt will remain the same as Egypt is also developing its ability to terrify the Turks
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You are a very strange Turkish. You have an army that has been defeated for 100 years and the Egyptian army was defeated in 1833 by an evil defeat

They won only through terrorism and ISIS against the Kurds

Egypt supports the Kurds all kinds of support politically and militarily and also exposes Turkey at the international level and Egypt against the Turkish war crimes in Syria.

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Question: You have expelled 300 Turkish pilots from service and thousands of military officers after stripping the Turkish army and the scandal. Is an army that has been psychologically defeated and undressed? The MIG and SU-35 came to you because you are in the bank of enemies set by Egypt


Turks do not have the leadership competencies and do not possess the levels of training owned by the Egyptian army. Name BADR

Just last week

Training program with Russia for air defense systems

Training program with Jordan and Pakistan

Training program with Cyprus and Greece


We are satisfied with the fact that we have gone beyond time

We are ready for Turkey militarily and well

We were able to blockade Turkey with a ring of enemies, you are a country with friends only IS and Qatar

Russia is a friend of Turkey America Is it a friend of Turkey Who are friends Turkey mainly from the five major countries does not have

You country have no friend

Who will support Turkey in the face of the Egyptian army without anyone? You are a Turkish army that has no morals. Its most capable ability is to use the ISIS to threaten Europe or fight for Turkey


You cannot bring your Kurdish losses to the world, but the dead Turkish soldiers are buried in Syria so that the Turkish people do not know how big your losses are.


His name is this Egypt will not fight Turkey and will not prepare for the war in Turkey, you know why simply because Egypt has F-16 aircraft in Greece and KA-52 planes in Cyprus We besiege you and demand that Turkey be prosecuted for its war crimes at the United Nations and the lack of Kurds to maximize your loss and break the Turkish army through a drain in Syria and Iraq.

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Chill dude you murdered that guy
 
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Why don't you show your real flag, endian? Only an endian will write Pakistan like you have written above.
I have read comments from Israeli members, they never talked about Pakistan like this. Only you (endians) guys talk like this.


The statements are well qualified and there is no reason to be racist - you sound like an Nazi.

Get over your over-sensitive self - and go kiss your cows to sleep, Gandhi.

Typical west-punjabi, feudal minset of anti-semitism, when your cow takes a p*** is that Israels fault too?

The stating of colonial punjab regiment suggests you are one of those brainwashed anti-semites from West Punjab.It gets you so over sensitive

Its acnknowledged in some posts that some self hating jews helped hitler and so what - this doesnt detract from the crimes of the holocaust commited on masse targetted at jews - or in your little world it does.

- This is an internationally accepted fact of history
- so get over yourself.

You are expressing an obnoxious attitude typical of the eastern indus
and have a fanatical hate of the state of Israel.

Furthermore, you have demonstrated your ignorance - if you were so well placed why dont you stick up for the egyptian fella absolutely disgusting comments - you shame yourselves as Moslems for that type of racism , well it comes as no surpirse when its clear your also anti-semitic too.

Who are You to judge an diverse nation by a few goy emigres from Russia who fit into your sterotype as Israelites?

or would you like me to insult in you in hebrew and really hype you up to get you off your high horse

It seems you are what you accuse others of - a Nazi.
 
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The statements are well qualified and there is no reason to be racist - you sound like an Nazi.

Get over your over-sensitive self - and go kiss your cows to sleep, Gandhi.

Typical west-punjabi, feudal minset of anti-semitism, when your cow takes a p*** is that Israels fault too?

The stating of colonial punjab regiment suggests you are one of those brainwashed anti-semites from West Punjab.It gets you so over sensitive

Its acnknowledged in some posts that some self hating jews helped hitler and so what - this doesnt detract from the crimes of the holocaust commited on masse targetted at jews - or in your little world it does.

- This is an internationally accepted fact of history
- so get over yourself.

You are expressing an obnoxious attitude typical of the eastern indus
and have a fanatical hate of the state of Israel.

Furthermore, you have demonstrated your ignorance - if you were so well placed why dont you stick up for the egyptian fella absolutely disgusting comments - you shame yourselves as Moslems for that type of racism , well it comes as no surpirse when its clear your also anti-semitic too.

Who are You to judge an diverse nation by a few goy emigres from Russia who fit into your sterotype as Israelites?

or would you like me to insult in you in hebrew and really hype you up to get you off your high horse

It seems you are what you accuse others of - a Nazi.
Shhhh, you are going to get banned.
 
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I dont understand why they will be facing each other
Eygpt and israel are close allies

Turkey is eygpt enemy ..not israel
Israel are arabs brothers..
They have to stop invasion from turkish empire
Palestinians are better off in israel and gaza will soon become unliveable anyway ..


This is the thinking of most arabs ..
Pakistanis are outdated in their understanding of the conflict
Nope, they won’t be any soon, but isn’t this the usual BS when all analysts make their POVs on Egyptian forces, they count Israel as a possible rival.

You see, politics are unpredictable !!!
No one even thought in 2016 that North Korea and Trump relations will take a 180 degree turn and come on tables.

Similarly, know one even a day before failed coup of Turkey thought that a week later, Erdogan will openly come out against US and sue them for the attempt !!!

The statements are well qualified and there is no reason to be racist - you sound like an Nazi.

Get over your over-sensitive self - and go kiss your cows to sleep, Gandhi.

Typical west-punjabi, feudal minset of anti-semitism, when your cow takes a p*** is that Israels fault too?

The stating of colonial punjab regiment suggests you are one of those brainwashed anti-semites from West Punjab.It gets you so over sensitive

Its acnknowledged in some posts that some self hating jews helped hitler and so what - this doesnt detract from the crimes of the holocaust commited on masse targetted at jews - or in your little world it does.

- This is an internationally accepted fact of history
- so get over yourself.

You are expressing an obnoxious attitude typical of the eastern indus
and have a fanatical hate of the state of Israel.

Furthermore, you have demonstrated your ignorance - if you were so well placed why dont you stick up for the egyptian fella absolutely disgusting comments - you shame yourselves as Moslems for that type of racism , well it comes as no surpirse when its clear your also anti-semitic too.

Who are You to judge an diverse nation by a few goy emigres from Russia who fit into your sterotype as Israelites?

or would you like me to insult in you in hebrew and really hype you up to get you off your high horse

It seems you are what you accuse others of - a Nazi.
As a presumed Israeli, you seem to know a great deal about punjab. May i ask how and why ?
 
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Nope, they won’t be any soon, but isn’t this the usual BS when all analysts make their POVs on Egyptian forces, they count Israel as a possible rival.

You see, politics are unpredictable !!!
No one even thought in 2016 that North Korea and Trump relations will take a 180 degree turn and come on tables.

Similarly, know one even a day before failed coup of Turkey thought that a week later, Erdogan will openly come out against US and sue them for the attempt !!!


As a presumed Israeli, you seem to know a great deal about punjab. May i ask how and why ?
Speech and policy are two different things
Turkey is still an alley to isreal and USA
Eygpt will remain an isreali alley no matter who comes to govt
north korea is still at odds to usa

We did, we helped them a lot.


How is JF-17 not an option?
Because they have too much money ..
They are going to keep buying migs and rafales
 
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Thanks to this poor Turk MMM-E who explains who is unreasonable and who does not understand

Let us let you know how things are, you are still a young child who needs care, education and discipline

I explained in advance that the Egyptian combat capability is more than 50% higher than the Turkish fighting capacity by having better equipment than Turkey owns and more efficient and varied than that of Turkey which depends on a single fighter. F-16

A little credibility I hope so that people can accept the sincerity of your words

You are talking on the harpoon missiles and SOM and ATAMACA

The Turkish stockpile of Harpoon missiles is 250 km

Egypt also seized 240 Harpoon missiles from the US, but there is a big difference between Egypt's Harpoon missiles and Turkey's.

Egypt since 1998 ordered the Harpoon missiles AGM-84 BLOCK II

It updated its stockpile of harpoon missiles by 2003 to the level of BLOCK II, while Turks lived Harpoon Block II

Other side turkey and dreams and did not fly or get to limited numbers of this model, even the main model of Turkey low-level performance




When you mentioned the possession of the Scalp missiles and the possession of Egypt 50 Missile stupid peerless from you and put a naive scenario, Turkey possesses 500 SOM missiles and this on the ground the service

When I mentioned one model, I also mentioned the Apache missile, the KH-59 missile and Russia several years ago. They carried out live tests of the KH-35 and CLUB-A missiles to urge Egypt to contract them


That is simply the actual stocks on the ground for Egypt

Of its series of missiles is greater than what Turkey is talking about

For example, illustrate symbolic numbers


I owned 240 Harpoon missiles

It had 200 Exocet missiles

130 OTOMAT Missile
100+ missile C-705

200 Kh-31 missiles

100 Kh-59 missiles

200 CM-302 missiles

Egypt received Bastion coastal missile batteries also


You are talking on the sub-Sonic ATAMCA missile, which does not exceed Exocet and Harpoon Performance.

C-705/KD Since 2011, Egyptian production is taking place while you are dreaming of producing your subsonic missile in 2020

Egypt also obtained the CM-302 missile production license in 2017
To replace Egypt's stock of missiles HY-2, HY-4

You as a Turk did not understand what I meant a

When you have one missile like a harpoon anti-ship only as a real missile in the Turkish arsenal and limited numbers of missile Penguin


It simply means your missile capabilities are limited and prone to the inefficiency of this only weapon you have while Egypt versus this missile puts 4-5 missiles in against Turkish navy can face this variety of missiles different performance and different direction and speed patterns of missiles under the sound and ultrasonic ignorance Turkish Navy is unable to Countering a different arsenal of hostile missiles, while the Egyptian navy's air force as a result of their well-functioning Harpoon missile capabilities can simply be overcome. You have a real problem. The story of Turkish missiles under development cannot be lost. In your hand a weapon and not in your hand the fantasies and naive dreams

Simply put, Egypt runs military production operations at the lowest cost and highest results, unlike the Turks who have already failed in the arms race.

Let's show a simple example

View attachment 589403
Egypt produced 1,200 Abrams tanks from 1992 to 2018

I got 540 tanks at a price of $ 1 billion

It obtained 650 tanks at a cost of about 3 billion dollars

That is, 4 billion dollars, including 150 million dollars of domestic production line



Turkey has spent $ 670 million to develop 170 M60 tanks

From South Korea, licenses for the production of 550 million dollars for the K2 tank and the acquisition of four tanks ready from South Korea and the cost of developing the engine 400 million dollars.

The number of tanks expected to produce Germany did not even agree to supply 250 engines to Turkey for the production of the first batch The cost of production of each tank 13 million euros



In return for the project of the Turkish tank Altay

Egypt has contracted with the Russians to produce 1000 T90MS tanks and a center for the maintenance and reconstruction of 90 tanks for the Arab and African countries.

And we develop local active protection system while

Against zero new Turkish tanks

Turkey how much was spent on the ANKA plane as a development program and how many of the aircraft developed 10 aircraft and 3 command and control centers at a cost of 296 million dollars

While Egypt got

10 WING LOONG aircraft priced at $ 1 million per aircraft

It has contracted and produced domestic WING LOONG 1-D aircraft for 64 million dollars

And got 10 aircraft CH-5 at a price of 55 million

Next to a new contract for WING LOONG II


China announced that it is negotiating with Egypt on the CH-7

Turkey is reeling

And we have produced a local series of small drones like LIPAN M3 & ASN-209, Yarara, cabure

Besides the manufacture of target drones and the conversion of numbers to reconnaissance aircraft operating turboprop engines and turbo jet Egypt has become a larger fleet of Turkey much of the domestic production and import at the same time


You will find that Egypt has created maximum cost-effectiveness

Top 100 from Turkey, which is essentially getting Israeli technology and reselling it to Arab and African countries by redesigning the Israeli weapon from the exterior


Simply put, Egypt is producing French Patroller with a local contract of 30 aircraft

At the same time, it is assembling 32
Wing loong I_d aircraft


Locally licensed by China with local development and European parts of the French plane to upgrade their efficiency

This makes Egypt meet its needs of the planes at a balanced and reasonable cost while the Turks with limited technology drone Kurds downed 70 aircraft during the two years of war with the Turkish army and in Libya was shot down and destroyed 23 Turkish drones other than the problems of Turkish aircraft Bayraktar Tactical, which as a result of Erdogan fixed relations The factory is being forced into the Turkish army despite a complaint

Turkey, its producer, has not had operational success to be flaunted at all

So we find that Egypt was able to establish a large store of drones as a result of international programs forklift, while the Turks with their local production has not been able to get their needs fully yet.

You were talking that Egypt could not develop even an anti-tank missile. Things do not pull this logic. Egypt was getting free weapons from the United States for $ 1.3 billion annually. Also, with the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, Egypt obtained tactical and strategic weapons from Russia and Ukraine in the 1990s. Armored tanks and tanks which made the Egyptian military arsenal of weapons is very huge

Consequently, there was no need to establish a military industry urgently

As the situation changed, Egypt moved to eastern and European armaments. Egypt began to develop its industry

There are cases worthy of study to clarify the reality of things and the actual capabilities of each state anti-tank missiles and drones where biting fancy, including the Turks themselves that they have industries and this reflected on their military capabilities and that their military industry reflected on the growing war capabilities for them, but on the ground things are different

Turkey is manufacturing a number of drones are new manufacturers

We see the ANKA project delayed 5 years from the original date and then Turkey is launching new projects and preparing on Israeli drones as a real capacity for them, but Egypt had other trends in the possession of huge quantities of drones from a number of sources and also build a local manufacturing base


You are naively speaking that Egypt cannot develop an anti-tank missile, and I have made it clear that Egypt was simply getting free weapons from America through 1.3 billion military aid besides arms surpluses from Western Europe.

And the accumulation of weapons stocks


Currently, with the change in the situation, Egypt has turned to the rapid local manufacturing

I got production licenses

HJ-12

HJ-8

KORNET-E

Egypt was producing Tow, Swing Fire and AT-3 missiles. At the time, Turkey did not produce any anti-tank missiles in the 1980s.



Egypt is currently developing a new anti-tank missile to replace the Tao missiles

The same is true in the field of warships

You simply invested a lot of financial resources in return for the effectiveness of a limited fact. You lost the battle before you always start.

Germany banned MTU engines and was unable to produce the Altai tank

If Israel blocks the body armor and parts of the BMC KIRPI, production will stop

You as a Turk cannot understand that the battle between Egypt and Turkey began with Egypt's designation of Turkey as a current enemy of Egypt in 2008 when Erdogan was expelled from Sharm El Sheikh and we were able to remove the Muslim Brotherhood from the Middle East and make Turkey accused of international terrorism and expose its sponsorship of ISIS.


We came to clear points Egypt was able to create an anti-Turkey collar that loves it and Egypt's relations and alliance with these countries

Greece Cyprus Syria Iraq Armenia

Egypt created the Middle East Gas Forum and Turkey was identified as an enemy of the Eastern Mediterranean countries and classified as a thief of gas and not accepted in the Forum and Egypt has become the focus of liquefaction and collection of gas in the Eastern Mediterranean, we have implemented what you dream of yourself, but for ourselves only


Even Turkey's attempt to steal Cypriot gas has placed it under European sanctions and France will also supply Greece with MdCN missiles with a range of 1000-1400 kilometers for the Greek submarines TYPE-214 and Belharra frigate francs.

Besides the protection of France and Italy of the Cypriot gas fields and the protection of the business of Eni and Total in Cyprus.


You are talking about Turkish Submarine and Turkish naval units

First, Turkey does not have qualified cadres for the war, including cadres command dives as a result of the massacres against the Turkish army officers, including the Navy


Turkey also does not own TYPE-214 submarines. It has been contracted since 2008 and has not been able to acquire one of them without creating illusions about weapons that do not exist.

The other point of Turkish dives is their actual ability to navigate and work efficiently with unqualified and untrained crews and what ammunition the UGH-84 will launch again.


Military Power

Consists of good armament capable of working at sea efficiently and not numbers on paper

Staff is qualified to operate and manage the weapon

Commanded in the field of military planning for battles

Qualified leaders to lead the navy

Political leadership, not a leader or ISIS leader

You miss almost everything and create an illusion and this is wonderful because they demanded this is the way of the Turks in thinking and war, naturally that his mother remains defeated and any war you will loss

nice

Without the naivety of Turkey, you have to understand as a limited mind that when Turkey gets a plane, Egypt will be in service before several planes.

You talk on a missile like SOM and forget that Egypt now Russian production lines are producing the first batch of SU-35 aircraft to Egypt, which will receive Egypt in 2020 the number of 10 aircraft along with a huge amount of ammunition


Egypt is negotiating the second batch of 50 MiG-35s to be acquired between 2020 and 2020


While Turkey has been expelled from the F-35 program and has no engine for her article dreams and cannot even ask the US to assemble a new batch of 16 thousand, Turkey will not get the EJT-2000 engine for the advanced training plane it dreams of producing, not even the TFX plane.


You always talk about the future and illusions will develop Turkey will produce Turkey These are not facts are not products Are you going to fight the Egyptian army paper and projects designs on paper Do you think Egyptians naive

Egypt is currently negotiating new early warning planes with Sweden Negotiating with Russia on transport planes and early warning planes and the second batch of MiG-35 and France on a new batch of Rafal and awaiting the delivery of SU-35 contracted while you are siege and all your military pawns are allowed by the Europeans Americans cannot serve within a single aircraft under Western sanctions against you


You think you will get something and Egypt will remain the same as Egypt is also developing its ability to terrify the Turks
View attachment 589404 View attachment 589405

You are a very strange Turkish. You have an army that has been defeated for 100 years and the Egyptian army was defeated in 1833 by an evil defeat

They won only through terrorism and ISIS against the Kurds

Egypt supports the Kurds all kinds of support politically and militarily and also exposes Turkey at the international level and Egypt against the Turkish war crimes in Syria.

View attachment 589415

Question: You have expelled 300 Turkish pilots from service and thousands of military officers after stripping the Turkish army and the scandal. Is an army that has been psychologically defeated and undressed? The MIG and SU-35 came to you because you are in the bank of enemies set by Egypt


Turks do not have the leadership competencies and do not possess the levels of training owned by the Egyptian army. Name BADR

Just last week

Training program with Russia for air defense systems

Training program with Jordan and Pakistan

Training program with Cyprus and Greece


We are satisfied with the fact that we have gone beyond time

We are ready for Turkey militarily and well

We were able to blockade Turkey with a ring of enemies, you are a country with friends only IS and Qatar

Russia is a friend of Turkey America Is it a friend of Turkey Who are friends Turkey mainly from the five major countries does not have

You country have no friend

Who will support Turkey in the face of the Egyptian army without anyone? You are a Turkish army that has no morals. Its most capable ability is to use the ISIS to threaten Europe or fight for Turkey


You cannot bring your Kurdish losses to the world, but the dead Turkish soldiers are buried in Syria so that the Turkish people do not know how big your losses are.


His name is this Egypt will not fight Turkey and will not prepare for the war in Turkey, you know why simply because Egypt has F-16 aircraft in Greece and KA-52 planes in Cyprus We besiege you and demand that Turkey be prosecuted for its war crimes at the United Nations and the lack of Kurds to maximize your loss and break the Turkish army through a drain in Syria and Iraq.

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That was quite a comeback.

No offense to turk brothers here.

Good discussion be @MMM-E and @sami_1 , we need well informed people like you in this forum !!!

Keep up and try to stay civilized in this good discussion as it progresses !!!
 
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Shhhh, you are going to get banned.

He's the flag gestapo - trolling other posts with similar allegations !

not long before his kind get
Nope, they won’t be any soon, but isn’t this the usual BS when all analysts make their POVs on Egyptian forces, they count Israel as a possible rival.

You see, politics are unpredictable !!!
No one even thought in 2016 that North Korea and Trump relations will take a 180 degree turn and come on tables.

Similarly, know one even a day before failed coup of Turkey thought that a week later, Erdogan will openly come out against US and sue them for the attempt !!!


As a presumed Israeli, you seem to know a great deal about punjab. May i ask how and why ?


The demographic study of people and Cultures, not alot simply available knowledge and interacting.

Orientalism is a taught subject in Europe !
 
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