shiia are heaven ticket for Pakistani and Hour-Al Ein ... so they don't want to use all of them at once ...
Egypt, Pakistan join military campaign against Houthis
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shiia are heaven ticket for Pakistani and Hour-Al Ein ... so they don't want to use all of them at once ...
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We have had elected Shia leaders and 30% of our armed forces are shia keep in mind the fact that shias make up 20% of our population
Saddam forces have shiia but he killed more than 200,000 shiia in 1990s and enslave their women ( although they don't talk about it and deny it but they can't hide the truth ) ....
look like Pakistani Shiia need the same lesson to accept the reason ... and from my point of view ,they will learn their lesson very soon ...
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Heaven rush! Almost 11 million Muslim on Muslim killing since 50's. What if few thousands more.......but I don't want my soldiers to die for Saudis.
Pakistan has a strategic Partnership with Saudi Arabia & very close relationships with other GCC members.
Any external threat to Saudi stability is a matter of concern for Pakistans establishment if not the populace.
The Hadi government was installed by GCC & the idea of Hadi being ousted & chased out of government by a revolt is a red line for the current status qou.
Any revolt in an Arab country is taken as a threat by the Monarchies ruling these fiefdoms. Had the revolt been by Salafis or Takfiris the status qou would still have
a same sort of response. It's just that the Houthis happen to be Shia, which makes the Monarchies job a lot more easier.
A lot of people are missing the point here & reading too much in to secterian side of this conflict.
& that's the dangerous bit, local populations of this alliance taking this as a secterian conflict rather than what it purely is, a threat perception by Al Sauds, Khalifas,Hashemites & co.
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Sending our Army in is a bad idea.We should have tried dissolving the situation through talks first.We should have helped them with airstrikes,intelligence etc ,etc.Going in is BS.
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Iran causes blasts
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Hehe Pakistani Shias are well represented in our security forces and political system
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These Posts hurts .....
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Apparently it appears Shia's are under threat in Pakistan, and TAKFIRI Terrorists are being successful in penciling that sketch....and most unfortunate part is that you people believe such Non-sense
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In Pakistan (in reality) we've more Sunni-Shia marriages as compared to all Middle East.....try to understand... you're part of that Fight thats why in the heat of Emotions ...you're kicking your ally in smoke
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State of Pakistan is on War with Takfiri Ideology and we undergone with Operation known as ZARB-E-AZB.......In responce those terrorists reply back SOFT-TARGETS "Shia , Ahmedi & Churches"...so that it appears they can do whatever they want
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If you're Counting specific Blasts on Shia Community....then why you wont count other recent attacks on School , Bazaars, Market, Army Posts, .......that are in General against Pakistan ??
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True but every community has people who can be used as long there are people to use them
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Pakistan says hasn't promised to join Saudi coalition in Yemen| Reuters
Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:04am EDT
(Reuters) - Pakistan has made no decision on whether to give military support to a Saudi-led coalition intervening in Yemen, Defense Minister Khawaja Asif said on Friday, while pledging to defend Saudi Arabia against any threat to its solidarity.
Pakistan's Foreign Office said on Thursday it was considering a request from Saudi Arabia to send troops to Yemen.
"We have made no decision to participate in this war. We didn't make any promise. We have not promised any military support to the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen," Asif told parliament.
"In Syria, Yemen and Iraq, division is being fueled and it needs to be contained. The crisis has its fault lines in Pakistan too, (we) don't want to disturb them."
Pakistan has been plagued with sectarian violence for years, with militant Sunni Muslim groups targeting its Shi'ite minority.
"So many minorities and sects live in Pakistan," Asif told Reuters. "Whatever assurances we give Saudi Arabia is to defend its territorial integrity, but I assure that there is no danger of us getting involved in a sectarian war."
A military official said on condition of anonymity that it would be extremely difficult for Pakistan to commit troops as it was already overstretched on its own borders.
"Before the PM's Saudi visit (this month), he already spoke to the army chief and they decided that committing brigades would not be possible," the official told Reuters.
Warplanes from Saudi Arabia and Arab allies hit Yemen's Houthi-controlled capital and the Shi'ite Muslim group's northern heartland on Friday, the second day of a Saudi-led campaign to stop the militia establishing its rule across the country.
Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's office said on Thursday any threat to Saudi Arabia would "evoke a strong response" from Islamabad.
Sharif has long enjoyed close relations with the Saudi royal family. After his second term as prime minister was ended by a military coup in 1999, he was sent into exile in Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia last year loaned $1.5 billion to Pakistan to help Islamabad shore up its foreign exchange reserves, meet debt-service obligations and undertake large energy and infrastructure projects.
(Additional reporting by Mehreen Zahra-Malik in Karachi; Writing by Nick Macfie; Editing by Katharine Houreld and Simon Cameron-Moore)
Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:04am EDT
(Reuters) - Pakistan has made no decision on whether to give military support to a Saudi-led coalition intervening in Yemen, Defense Minister Khawaja Asif said on Friday, while pledging to defend Saudi Arabia against any threat to its solidarity.
Pakistan's Foreign Office said on Thursday it was considering a request from Saudi Arabia to send troops to Yemen.
"We have made no decision to participate in this war. We didn't make any promise. We have not promised any military support to the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen," Asif told parliament.
"In Syria, Yemen and Iraq, division is being fueled and it needs to be contained. The crisis has its fault lines in Pakistan too, (we) don't want to disturb them."
Pakistan has been plagued with sectarian violence for years, with militant Sunni Muslim groups targeting its Shi'ite minority.
"So many minorities and sects live in Pakistan," Asif told Reuters. "Whatever assurances we give Saudi Arabia is to defend its territorial integrity, but I assure that there is no danger of us getting involved in a sectarian war."
A military official said on condition of anonymity that it would be extremely difficult for Pakistan to commit troops as it was already overstretched on its own borders.
"Before the PM's Saudi visit (this month), he already spoke to the army chief and they decided that committing brigades would not be possible," the official told Reuters.
Warplanes from Saudi Arabia and Arab allies hit Yemen's Houthi-controlled capital and the Shi'ite Muslim group's northern heartland on Friday, the second day of a Saudi-led campaign to stop the militia establishing its rule across the country.
Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's office said on Thursday any threat to Saudi Arabia would "evoke a strong response" from Islamabad.
Sharif has long enjoyed close relations with the Saudi royal family. After his second term as prime minister was ended by a military coup in 1999, he was sent into exile in Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia last year loaned $1.5 billion to Pakistan to help Islamabad shore up its foreign exchange reserves, meet debt-service obligations and undertake large energy and infrastructure projects.
(Additional reporting by Mehreen Zahra-Malik in Karachi; Writing by Nick Macfie; Editing by Katharine Houreld and Simon Cameron-Moore)
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they are already involved. Arabs are very important for them. this is the worst mistake ever made by Pakistan.
now Pakistan also have danger of two front war.
(may be three front war if Afghanistan is also included
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Pakistan’s long history of fighting Saudi Arabia’s wars - The Washington Post
By Ishaan Tharoor March 27
As WorldViews discussed earlier, the Saudis coordinated their action with a coalition of Sunni majority countries, sharpening the perception that the offensive was part of a wider regional conflict with Iran, a Shiite power that has backed the Houthis and is locked in a larger game of geopolitical chess with the Saudis in various corners of the Middle East.
One conspicuous nation among the list of countries Saudi Arabia indicated had "declared their willingness to participate" in the anti-Houthi action is Pakistan. A non-Arab state with a sizeable Shiite minority, Pakistan also has an overstretched military, which is wrestling with its own extremist insurgency in the rugged borderlands.
Yet on Thursday, a statement from the office of Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif indicated that a delegation of top Pakistani officials would be en route to Riyadh to coordinate assistance, though it's not clear whether that means Islamabad is actually willing to commit strategic resources to the fight in Yemen.
“The Prime Minister said Pakistan enjoys close and brotherly relations with Saudi Arabia and other [Gulf] countries and attaches great importance to their security,” the statement read.
“The meeting concluded that any threat to Saudi Arabia’s territorial integrity would evoke a strong response from Pakistan.” (Nevermind that in this instance, it appears Saudi Arabia is leading an intervention into the territory of another state.)
On one level, this is partly down to Sharif’s personal politics. Saudi Arabia gave the Pakistani prime minister sanctuary in 2000 following his earlier ouster in a military coup. Last year, a rare visit by the then Saudi defense minister – now, the current King Salman – to Pakistan led to Sharif’s government joining the Saudi call for the departure of Syrian President Bashar Assad.
But Islamabad and Riyadh’s ties run far deeper than that. Both countries in their own way are deeply ideological states, and they've forged vital partnerships over the years — deemed by one former Saudi intelligence chief as "probably one of the closest relationships in the world between any two countries."
Most famously during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, the Saudis funneled aid and money through Pakistan to build up the anti-Soviet mujahideen. That eventually spawned the Taliban and led to the emergence of al-Qaeda.
Critics in Pakistan also frequently lament the dominant effect Saudi funds – and the kingdom’s orthodox, Wahhabist ideology – had on the evolution of political Islam in Pakistan and the blossoming of hundreds of madrassas, or religious schools, throughout the country steeped in a diverse array of religious traditions. Sectarian violence has claimed thousands of Pakistani lives in recent years.
But Pakistan left an important imprint on the Saudis as well. Dating back to the 1960s, Pakistan’s experienced military helped train the undermanned and underprepared militaries of a number of fledgling Arab states. The former Pakistani President Zia-ul-Haq once even commanded a unit of troops in Jordan tasked with combating Palestinian fighters.
A 2008 report in Brookings itemized the close military relationship with the Saudis, which shows there’s a precedent for Pakistani action in Yemen:
Pakistan has provided military aid and expertise to the kingdom for decades. It began with help to the Royal Saudi Air Force to build and pilot its first jet fighters in the 1960s. Pakistani Air Force pilots flew RSAF Lightnings that repulsed a South Yemeni incursion into the kingdom’s southern border in 1969. In the 1970s and 1980s, up to 15,000 Pakistani troops were stationed in the kingdom, some in a brigade combat force near the Israeli-Jordanian-Saudi border.
Pakistani engineers also helped build fortifications along the southern Saudi border, in part to help counter Houthi rebels, according to the Diplomat. Up until the First Gulf War, there was a detachment of thousands of Pakistani soldiers posted in Saudi Arabia.
The Saudi military has increased markedly in capability since those days; the kingdom recently became the world’s biggest arms importer. But Pakistani manpower still comes in handy in the petro-rich countries of the Gulf, where foreign nationals often staff a whole range of state institutions.
The Sunni monarchy that rules over Bahrain has employed thousands of Pakistanis in its security services, who, during the 2011 pro-democracy protests in the Shiite-majority country, delivered orders to protesters in English and Urdu.
"Our own [Shiites] cannot join the security forces, but the government recruits from abroad," one Bahraini activist told Al Jazeera in 2011.
Opposition politicians in Pakistan are understandably concerned. "Given...our own internal sectarian terrorism, Pakistan cannot afford to get embroiled in any Shia-Sunni conflict in the Gulf and Middle East," said Shireen Mazari, a leader of the Movement for Justice party. "Pakistan must stay strictly neutral."
By Ishaan Tharoor March 27
As WorldViews discussed earlier, the Saudis coordinated their action with a coalition of Sunni majority countries, sharpening the perception that the offensive was part of a wider regional conflict with Iran, a Shiite power that has backed the Houthis and is locked in a larger game of geopolitical chess with the Saudis in various corners of the Middle East.
One conspicuous nation among the list of countries Saudi Arabia indicated had "declared their willingness to participate" in the anti-Houthi action is Pakistan. A non-Arab state with a sizeable Shiite minority, Pakistan also has an overstretched military, which is wrestling with its own extremist insurgency in the rugged borderlands.
Yet on Thursday, a statement from the office of Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif indicated that a delegation of top Pakistani officials would be en route to Riyadh to coordinate assistance, though it's not clear whether that means Islamabad is actually willing to commit strategic resources to the fight in Yemen.
“The Prime Minister said Pakistan enjoys close and brotherly relations with Saudi Arabia and other [Gulf] countries and attaches great importance to their security,” the statement read.
“The meeting concluded that any threat to Saudi Arabia’s territorial integrity would evoke a strong response from Pakistan.” (Nevermind that in this instance, it appears Saudi Arabia is leading an intervention into the territory of another state.)
On one level, this is partly down to Sharif’s personal politics. Saudi Arabia gave the Pakistani prime minister sanctuary in 2000 following his earlier ouster in a military coup. Last year, a rare visit by the then Saudi defense minister – now, the current King Salman – to Pakistan led to Sharif’s government joining the Saudi call for the departure of Syrian President Bashar Assad.
But Islamabad and Riyadh’s ties run far deeper than that. Both countries in their own way are deeply ideological states, and they've forged vital partnerships over the years — deemed by one former Saudi intelligence chief as "probably one of the closest relationships in the world between any two countries."
Most famously during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, the Saudis funneled aid and money through Pakistan to build up the anti-Soviet mujahideen. That eventually spawned the Taliban and led to the emergence of al-Qaeda.
Critics in Pakistan also frequently lament the dominant effect Saudi funds – and the kingdom’s orthodox, Wahhabist ideology – had on the evolution of political Islam in Pakistan and the blossoming of hundreds of madrassas, or religious schools, throughout the country steeped in a diverse array of religious traditions. Sectarian violence has claimed thousands of Pakistani lives in recent years.
But Pakistan left an important imprint on the Saudis as well. Dating back to the 1960s, Pakistan’s experienced military helped train the undermanned and underprepared militaries of a number of fledgling Arab states. The former Pakistani President Zia-ul-Haq once even commanded a unit of troops in Jordan tasked with combating Palestinian fighters.
A 2008 report in Brookings itemized the close military relationship with the Saudis, which shows there’s a precedent for Pakistani action in Yemen:
Pakistan has provided military aid and expertise to the kingdom for decades. It began with help to the Royal Saudi Air Force to build and pilot its first jet fighters in the 1960s. Pakistani Air Force pilots flew RSAF Lightnings that repulsed a South Yemeni incursion into the kingdom’s southern border in 1969. In the 1970s and 1980s, up to 15,000 Pakistani troops were stationed in the kingdom, some in a brigade combat force near the Israeli-Jordanian-Saudi border.
Pakistani engineers also helped build fortifications along the southern Saudi border, in part to help counter Houthi rebels, according to the Diplomat. Up until the First Gulf War, there was a detachment of thousands of Pakistani soldiers posted in Saudi Arabia.
The Saudi military has increased markedly in capability since those days; the kingdom recently became the world’s biggest arms importer. But Pakistani manpower still comes in handy in the petro-rich countries of the Gulf, where foreign nationals often staff a whole range of state institutions.
The Sunni monarchy that rules over Bahrain has employed thousands of Pakistanis in its security services, who, during the 2011 pro-democracy protests in the Shiite-majority country, delivered orders to protesters in English and Urdu.
"Our own [Shiites] cannot join the security forces, but the government recruits from abroad," one Bahraini activist told Al Jazeera in 2011.
Opposition politicians in Pakistan are understandably concerned. "Given...our own internal sectarian terrorism, Pakistan cannot afford to get embroiled in any Shia-Sunni conflict in the Gulf and Middle East," said Shireen Mazari, a leader of the Movement for Justice party. "Pakistan must stay strictly neutral."
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