Egypt Islamists attack Iran’s chargé d’affaires’ house, chant anti-Shiite..

[Uhuhu]

that's your main problem. do you think if there was no Israel and Palestine today we were in peace with US? don't you remember Mosadegh? you don't know how Reza shah bombarded our parliament? who supported him or better to say who brought him to power? don't you know 11 million Iranian died in WW1 and because of who? no dear, West problem with Iran is beyond Israel and Palestine issue, It's all about Imperialism.

you say Hamas hate us but what I saw after 8day war it was their officials shutting Iran is our ally and true friend.
It's funny, because of western and and some local poppets some Arabs think Iran is supporting Israel and Syria, and you are saying why we should help them when they hate us. with your policy you don't get surprised if they attack Iran again.

you say without Palestine everything would be fine, and I say if it wasn't because of Palestine today we were facing even more problems from west and their poppets.

No one says surrender yourself or be weak. everyone try for his interest. They did too, you should always care to your interest instead of sacrifies your nation interests for goal of another nation. we should be Logical, that's it. it doesn't mean to be like reza shah or qajar! you were supposed to say how Palestine is our interest. if you just look at your interest instead of fingering an irrelevant country to your interest and call them enemy For ever, our problems were much much less than now. no one said it would be heaven or they love us.

if you are talking about past, then what indians should say and do against west?! they should yelling all the time and cut the relationship with them and fingering israel? how about others? how about china? we are not the only one who damaged by west countries in the past.

it seems you never talked to these people. only their regim are like that? cant you see what their people are saying? islamic uprising. they are not your friend, most of them in PDF are against us, what are you talking about? you can see many of them in PDF and others social networks and realize how they think about you and it's not just their regims.
now we should thank hamas when they are still going to syria or trying to find new supplier instead of iran? Iran is the last choice for them. they have no choice except us.

you say without Palestine everything would be fine, and I say if it wasn't because of Palestine today we were facing even more problems from west and their poppets.

really? how my friend? you mean like India, china,Norway,Sweden, Germany, Switzerland, Denmark, Finland,japan and ...?

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Bingo................you hit the nail on the head

Actually you both just hit the buttt, any religion can be spread if followed proper tactics on uneducated people or lightly religious, Shia believe and practice taqia, they wouldn't of course reveal all their beliefs at once to the interested people, unlike us Sunnis which our religion is an open page to all people and we even urge people to think twice and make sure of their decisions before converting to Islam. I can get you many of popular Shia scholars who converted to Sunni, but I challenge you all to get me a popular Sunni cleric who converted to Shia...Never happened . I am not interested in going into this discussion but but had to reply before some guys believe their delusions.

they impose their will on mainstream Sunnis as well; so it isn't a Sunni-Shiia issue but just an issue of some religious whackjobs with long beards who impose their will on others and resort to violence and extremist measures like Exhibit A

You are right about them but when it comes to Iran the majority of Egyptians are against the relations with Iran, since you know Arabic go and visit any Egyptian site, this news page and see their comments on this issue.

 

[Solomon2]

I suspect these Salafis expected this Iranian to pay them off so as not to cause trouble and the deal went bad. Why else would they pester the chargé's house rather than the embassy?

 

[mohsen]

No one says surrender yourself or be weak. everyone try for his interest. They did too, you should always care to your interest instead of sacrifies your nation interests for goal of another nation. we should be Logical, that's it. it doesn't mean to be like reza shah or qajar! you were supposed to say how Palestine is our interest. if you just look at your interest instead of fingering an irrelevant country to your interest and call them enemy For ever, our problems were much much less than now. no one said it would be heaven or they love us.

if you are talking about past, then what indians should say and do against west?! they should yelling all the time and cut the relationship with them and fingering israel? how about others? how about china? we are not the only one who damaged by west countries in the past.

it seems you never talked to these people. only their regim are like that? cant you see what their people are saying? islamic uprising. they are not your friend, most of them in PDF are against us, what are you talking about? you can see many of them in PDF and others social networks and realize how they think about you and it's not just their regims.
now we should thank hamas when they are still going to syria or trying to find new supplier instead of iran? Iran is the last choice for them. they have no choice except us.



really? how my friend? you mean like India, china,Norway,Sweden, Germany, Switzerland, Denmark, Finland,japan and ...?

not just Palestine, anywhere in the world we see Injustice we should response, even if we weren't Muslim, still defending innocents is a value.
our goal of supporting Palestinian isn't their support or reward, It's our duty as a Muslim, as a man who believes to judgement day, are you skeptical about God's justice? do you think purpose of creating humankind was to create economy interests, and shutting up when it's not our interest?

حدیث از امام علی:
شگفتا! شگفتا! به خدا سوگند این حقیقت دل را می میراند و غم و اندوه می آفریند که آن ها در مسیر باطل خود چنین متحدند و شما در راه حق این چنین پراکنده و متفرق

Imam Ali:
wonder, wonder, I swear this fact tears our heats and brings sorrow and sadness , that they are so united in their wrong path, and you are so dispersed in the right path.
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I was talking about 20th century not stone ages, you think cause their propeller engines have became jet engines, then It has changed their nature too? they act based on their interests, if it require starting another WW, they wont hesitate? you brought India as a example, if this country was placed in middle east with high reserves of oil and gas then I would show you how U.S would tear it apart (you better look at the new middle east map designed by U.S), right now they are nothing but a consumer market, so is the china. as much china becomes more powerful U.S pressures on this country will increase, look how they are using north Korea to expand military bases around china.
also right now Iran is a Forefront for china, same roll have Syria,Lebanon and Palestine for Iran. this is from western strategists, "proxy war" phrase first were used by them, also you should remember they have done this to Iran before, do you have any doubts that western countries supported and encouraged saddam to attack Iran?

 

[Sam1980]

any religion can be spread if followed proper tactics on uneducated people or lightly religious

There is some truth to this, actually religion (overall) is more prevalence among people with less education, however not everyone whose practicing religion is uneducated, but most of the uneducated who do practice it are of extremist kind, whether its the case of these Wahhabis in Egypt or Westboro Baptist Church in the U.S.

I think anyone whose afraid of other religions or fear that followers of their religion might convert mustn't have a very strong faith, because if they did and they were sure that is what god wants, they wouldn't lose control and act like primates! (Like in this case)

I suspect these Salafis expected this Iranian to pay them off so as not to cause trouble and the deal went bad. Why else would they pester the chargé's house rather than the embassy?

To my knowledge Iran doesn't have an active embassy in Egypt. Shouldn't you Google before asking this kind of questions?

 

[T-123456]

whatever Iranian government were thought during 80's is acceptable for me, we just had a new revolution and some Islamic goals and interests that we tried to reach them.but time always show people something and make them to rethink. i can not understand the interests of policy of Iranian regime nowadays and what they think is our interest? what they are trying for and does it our interest?

You allways post with reason!

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

There is some truth to this, actually religion (overall) is more prevalence among people with less education, however not everyone whose practicing religion is uneducated, but most of the uneducated who do practice it are of extremist kind, whether its the case of these Wahhabis in Egypt or Westboro Baptist Church in the U.S.

I think anyone whose afraid of other religions or fear that followers of their religion might convert mustn't have a very strong faith, because if they did and they were sure that is what god wants, they wouldn't lose control and act like primates! (Like in this case)



To my knowledge Iran doesn't have an active embassy in Egypt. Shouldn't you Google before asking this kind of questions?

Not entirely true, there are educated people who completely adhere and practice Islam, and there is no need to wory about them, but the problem with the uneducated who would interpret Islam according to their limited knowledge and narrow thinking. However, Egypt have millions of illiterate and uneducated people who could believe in anything taught to them including Shaasim . Jordan had hundreds of thousands of Iraqis in their cities among them Shia, but no one converted, in fact their is a shrine in Southern Jordan for Jafaar Bin Abi Talib (RA) which is an attraction to Shia, people of that area protested over suspecting that Hussieneah was being built until the government explained it wasn't. The thing is that you need to keep your beliefs to yourselves within your countries because spreading it every where would only create more strife among Muslims, especially that Iran is using them to spread it's hegemony.

Here is the shrine of Jafaar Bin Abi Talib in Karak in Southern Jordan:

 

[Surenas]

I suspect these Salafis expected this Iranian to pay them off so as not to cause trouble and the deal went bad. Why else would they pester the chargé's house rather than the embassy?

Because Iran' doesn't have an embassy in Egypt, Einstein.

 

[Sam1980]

@Soheil Maaaaaan baaaaayad beeeeeerrrrraaaaam to kareee in baba? OK?
@BLACKEAGLE I'm sorry, but I don't understand the relevance of your post to my earlier post? :S

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

@Soheil Maaaaaan baaaaayad beeeeeerrrrraaaaam to kareee in baba? OK?
@BLACKEAGLE I'm sorry, but I don't understand the relevance of your post to my earlier post? :S

You were saying that only uneducated are more religious and I explained that it's not true, the rest is a general reply to the original post. Anyway, you can ignore it.

 

[SOHEIL]

@Soheil Maaaaaan baaaaayad beeeeeerrrrraaaaam to kareee in baba? OK?
@BLACKEAGLE I'm sorry, but I don't understand the relevance of your post to my earlier post? :S

boro to karesh !!! man poshtetam

 

[Sam1980]

@Soheil Beshin negah kon jigar @BLACKEAGLE You are 100% wrong. There is an overwhelming negative correlation between religion and education. Religion & Brain: Belief Decreases With Analytical Thinking, Study Shows
I'm a Muslim myself, and I consider myself fairly educated But this is reality! At least 93% of world's scientists are Atheist, I don't even need to argue with you on this, for more information, please use your favourite search engine.

 

[SOHEIL]

@Soheil Beshin negah kon jigar @BLACKEAGLE You are 100% wrong. There is an overwhelming negative correlation between religion and education. Religion & Brain: Belief Decreases With Analytical Thinking, Study Shows
I'm a Muslim myself, and I consider myself fairly educated But this is reality! At least 93% of world's scientists are Atheist, I don't even need to argue with you on this, for more information, please use your favourite search engine.

Belief Decreases With Analytical Thinking !?

 

[Sam1980]

Someone delete this please

 

[SOHEIL]

@Soheil sshhhsomamama bavvavavr naaaakkooon jiiiigar in rooooooo baaayayayd be in yaaaarrroorro begggiim

inrorrooro barrrayyye innnneee introrori miiinosam choaaan mikhooom noore toooorijome kooonje