Egypt Arrests 29 People Suspected of Spying for Turkey

[Bubblegum Crisis]

I know bro. The fact that they have to use Avengers to protect their ships is 'facepalmingly hillarious'...

And ? I think it's probably temporary, like others no :

Israel declares operational capability for sea-based Iron Dome (Defense News)

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Egyptian Mistrals using Avengers for air defence

Jeremy Binnie - Jane's Defence Weekly
13 July 2017

The Egyptian Ministry of Defence (MoD) has confirmed that AN/TWQ-1 Avengers are being put on the flight decks of Mistral landing helicopter dock (LHD) amphibious assault ships to provide short-range air defence.

The Avenger, which has been in service with the Egyptian Air Defence Forces for many years, consists of a manned turret armed with eight Stinger missiles mounted on a modified Humvee.

The confirmation of its new naval role came in the form of a video that the MoD released on 12 July showing the ‘Cleopatra 2017’ joint exercise with the French Navy. An Egyptian Mistral was seen with at least three Avengers strapped to its flight deck and their turrets rotating as if scanning for targets.

Two vehicles that resembled Avengers have been previously spotted on the flight deck of an Egyptian Mistral, suggesting that this is becoming standard practice.

Egypt’s Mistrals were built for Russia in France and were expected to be fitted with two 3M-47 Gibka turrets with Igla-S missiles and two AK-630 rotary cannons to provide short-range air defence. However, the LHDs could not be delivered to Russia due to the European Union sanctions imposed on Moscow after it annexation of Crimea, at which point Egypt stepped in to buy them without their Russian systems.



Gibka 3M-47 naval turret mount, air defense missile system


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And ? I think it's probably temporary, like others no :

Israel declares operational capability for sea-based Iron Dome (Defense News)

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Quote :

Egyptian Mistrals using Avengers for air defence

Jeremy Binnie - Jane's Defence Weekly
13 July 2017

The Egyptian Ministry of Defence (MoD) has confirmed that AN/TWQ-1 Avengers are being put on the flight decks of Mistral landing helicopter dock (LHD) amphibious assault ships to provide short-range air defence.

The Avenger, which has been in service with the Egyptian Air Defence Forces for many years, consists of a manned turret armed with eight Stinger missiles mounted on a modified Humvee.

The confirmation of its new naval role came in the form of a video that the MoD released on 12 July showing the ‘Cleopatra 2017’ joint exercise with the French Navy. An Egyptian Mistral was seen with at least three Avengers strapped to its flight deck and their turrets rotating as if scanning for targets.

Two vehicles that resembled Avengers have been previously spotted on the flight deck of an Egyptian Mistral, suggesting that this is becoming standard practice.

Egypt’s Mistrals were built for Russia in France and were expected to be fitted with two 3M-47 Gibka turrets with Igla-S missiles and two AK-630 rotary cannons to provide short-range air defence. However, the LHDs could not be delivered to Russia due to the European Union sanctions imposed on Moscow after it annexation of Crimea, at which point Egypt stepped in to buy them without their Russian systems.



Gibka 3M-47 naval turret mount, air defense missile system


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You know I'd post you a R&D document on how Turkish engineers developed Aselsan Bora, but I'd rather keep you ignorant on how much work goes into navalising weapon systems.

 

[cabatli_53]

All politic differences aside, Egyptian and Turkish people are good old friends and never fall into vis-a-vis to fight with eachother even if It is a coup leader serving hostile policies, ruling this friend people so Egyptian defence procurements in the hand of a good leader with an independent policies serving own benefits out of Western wishes will be benefical for all local people of Middile East deserving to live a good life in their lands without blood and tear organized by West and their tied puppet leaders. When correct time came, The big states of ME like Turkey and Egypt will even collaborate to develop big strategic projects to secure their future I hope.

Islamists wet dreams
Keep dreaming dude.


Mistral's are not operational yet.
If u think mistral's are not something to worry about let me introduce you to the ka52k and kh35
https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/ka-52k-katran-helicopter/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-35

Plans to add AESA radar on ka52k

Not enough to protect such a big platform putting a big target track on radars. A saturation attack on such platforms will be a nightmare If they are not protected with a well equipped AAW frigates on surface and submarines from underwater.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

The AKP is following policies in favour of muslim brotherhood; In return, Egypt is supporting any countries or organisations that have issues with Turkey.

Is MB beyond the intersts of Turkey and worth taking all those threats for?

Is the AKP after the interests of Turkey?

Any logical respond is welcome.

 

[The SC]

This is the result when you rush in a thread for venting out your hatred, we live in a age where we have the technology to read the newspapers on those Mistrals from space, but Erdogan sends a Turkish national to Egypt to take a photo of the ships, as if...

Another question is did Egyptian goverment explain what Turkish intelligence was gonna do with photos? Its not like google spits thousands of photos with full specs when you type Mistral right?

If you had that much advanced satellite technology as you are pretending..how come it couldn't spot the Kurdish or ISIS attacking and destroying Turkish tanks and troops in Iraq and Syria.. Go read about the importance of HUMINT despite the most sophisticated spy tools that exist, be it in the US or Russia or elsewhere..

All politic differences aside, Egyptian and Turkish people are good old friends and never fall into vis-a-vis to fight with eachother even if It is a coup leader serving hostile policies, ruling this friend people so Egyptian defence procurements in the hand of a good leader with an independent policies serving own benefits out of Western wishes will be benefical for all local people of Middile East deserving to live a good life in their lands without blood and tear organized by West and their tied puppet leaders. When correct time came, The big states of ME like Turkey and Egypt will even collaborate to develop big strategic projects to secure their future I hope.




Not enough to protect such a big platform putting a big target track on radars. A saturation attack on such platforms will be a nightmare If they are not protected with a well equipped AAW frigates on surface and submarines from underwater.

Egypt is still negotiating for the Equipments of the Mistral with Russia..You can be sure that it will be very well protected against any threat.. now what we see are just some training manoeuvres for the officers and sailors..

 

[xenon54 out]

If you had that much advanced satellite technology as you are pretending..how come it couldn't spot the Kurdish or ISIS attacking and destroying Turkish tanks and troops in Iraq and Syria.. Go read about the importance of HUMINT despite the most sophisticated spy tools that exist, be it in the US or Russia or elsewhere..

How old are you 12? No sattelite in the world can stop guerilla tactics, the point is Egypt claims that Turkey sent spys to photograph Egyptian navy while Turkey doesnt need anyone on the ground to take photos of Egyptian ships.

And to my ''pretending'':

Göktürk-1 is a high resolution earth observation satellite (greater than 50 cm) designed and developed for the Turkish Ministry of National Defence by the Italian space service company Telespazio with technological input from Turkish Aerospace Industries (TUSAŞ) and Aselsan of Turkey.[2]

The satellite with 0.80 m (2 ft 7 in) resolution is intended for use of reconnaissance over any location on earth without geographical restriction.

And guess what? He is getting a third brother in 2 years which will be built indigenously.

Göktürk-3 is a synthetic aperture radar (SAR) Earth observation satellite that will be designed and developed under prime contractorship of Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) with support of Military Electronic Industries(ASELSAN) and TÜBİTAK Space Technologies Research Institute (TÜBİTAK UZAY) for the Turkish Ministry of National Defence.[1][2]

The project is to provide high-resolution images from any location in the world in day and night, and in any weather condition without territorial waters and aerial domain restrictions to meet the requirements of the Turkish military.[1] After the contract signed between Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) and Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM) on 8 May 2013, the parties have started to work on the indigenous design of the satellite and ground stations.[2] According to the announcement of the Undersecretariate of Ministry of National Defence, the launch of Göktürk-3 is planned by end 2019.[3]

 

[The SC]

How old are you 12? No sattelite in the world can stop guerilla tactics, the point is Egypt claims that Turkey sent spys to photograph Egyptian navy while Turkey doesnt need anyone on the ground to take photos of Egyptian ships.

And to my ''claim'':

Göktürk-1 is a high resolution earth observation satellite (greater than 50 cm) designed and developed for the Turkish Ministry of National Defence by the Italian space service company Telespazio with technological input from Turkish Aerospace Industries (TUSAŞ) and Aselsan of Turkey.[2]

The satellite with 0.80 m (2 ft 7 in) resolution is intended for use of reconnaissance over any location on earth without geographical restriction.

And guess what? He is getting a third brother in 2 years which will be indigenously built.

Göktürk-3 is a synthetic aperture radar (SAR) Earth observation satellite that will be designed and developed under prime contractorship of Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) with support of Military Electronic Industries(ASELSAN) and TÜBİTAK Space Technologies Research Institute (TÜBİTAK UZAY) for the Turkish Ministry of National Defence.[1][2]

The project is to provide high-resolution images from any location in the world in day and night, and in any weather condition without territorial waters and aerial domain restrictions to meet the requirements of the Turkish military.[1] After the contract signed between Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) and Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM) on 8 May 2013, the parties have started to work on the indigenous design of the satellite and ground stations.[2] According to the announcement of the Undersecretariate of Ministry of National Defence, the launch of Göktürk-3 is planned by end 2019.[3]

Yours are just child claims.. If you knew anything about the role of HUMINT in gathering information..you won't be arguing like a child, showing its toys..you claimed that your satellites could read a newspaper on or inside the Mistral, I answered you ..why it couldn't spot Kurdish and ISIS vehicles attacking Turkish troops in Syria and Iraq?.. you couldn't come up with a simple answer so you resolved to personal attacks.. it shows what level you dwell in when short on facts .. Seonara..

 

[SALMAN F]

Who would send spies to a failed military dictatorship like Egypt?!

 

[xenon54 out]

Yours are just child claims.. If you knew anything about the role of HUMINT in gathering information..you won't be arguing like a child, showing its toys..you claimed that your satellites could read a newspaper insige the Mistral, I answered you ..why it couldn't spot Kurdish and ISIS vehicles attacking Turkish troops in Syria and Iraq.. you couldn't come up with a simple answer so you resolved to personal attacks,, it shows what level you dwell in // Seonara..

You got your answer but just like last time you lack comprehension skills, sry i cant help you with that.
I didnt insult you, your comparison is like that of a child, makes no sense at all hence i asked for your age, i can also ask why Russian sattelites couldnt stop missile attacks, makes just as much sense as your question why Turkish sattelites didnt stop pkk and isis.

''Reading newspapers'' was just and idiom but this ''toy'' is taking pictures just as we are speaking.

 

[The SC]

You got your answer but just like last time you lack comprehension skills, sry i cant help you with that.
I didnt insult you, your comparison is like that of a child, makes no sense at all hence i asked for your age, i can also ask why Russian sattelites couldnt stop missile attacks, makes just as much sense as your question why Turkish sattelites didnt stop pkk and isis.

''Reading newspapers'' was just and idiom but this ''toy'' is taking pictures just as we are speaking.

You are just proving your lack in comprehension skills more and more.. I am glad you made the comparison with Russia.. it proves you wrong.. I never thought that those fighters were less than 50 cm tall.. but I think you are..

 

[KapitaanAli]

Erdoğan policies are not really an enigma.
To feed his people, he needs to continue sticking to the West and Israel, so he does.
To stay relevant in Turkey, he needs to continue sticking it to the West and Israel.

So he does both on alternate days.
Just keep him out of foreign affairs like we keep the far right out of ours.

 

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Who would send spies to a failed military dictatorship like Egypt?!

I know right, as if there's a lack of Egyptians that would gladly spy for Turkey.

 

[xenon54 out]

You are just proving your lack in comprehension skills more and more.. I am glad you made the comparison with Russia.. it proves you wrong.. I never thought that those fighters were less than 50 cm tall.. but I think you are..

 

[bsruzm]

I know right, as if there's a lack of Egyptians that would gladly spy for Turkey.