Egypt | Army Ousts Mursi govt, violence erupts | News & Discussions

[JonAsad]

When talking of minority rights he meant them.....not sunni-shia thing.

I know what he meant- Who are involved in the uprising as you call it?- 10% Minority?- is that the case?-

 

[Hussein]

Bad news ... This should not be happened ... But international players is playing their political games .....

you mean , west paid millions people to demonstrate / protest ?

 

[Algeria]

This coup is a devastating blow to the arab spring, what a tragedy.

I guess Saudis, UAE & Israel reached their ultimate goal, a complete coup under the pretence of democracy.

How pathetic are the Egyptians who demanded the coup against Egypt's first democratically elected leader. As soon as it was announced 500 pilgrims from Gaza heading to KSA were forced to go back minutes before their flight. I guess the blockade has already restarted!

Remember Mursi was only months in office before he as ousted and he was expected to fix 30 years of corruption!
His biggest mistake was going for the corrupt elite. You can play sharia all you want but when you expose the tax evasions of big businessmen and not say yes to every Israeli or American demand, then its time to go.
The crucial part is that they had the media in their hands, so they can brain wash the mostly illiterate population who would protest all night for $.
Its needless to say that the classless Saudi king immediately congratulated the Egyptian army and the new "president" but at the same time consider the protesters as khwarij!!

But as for Egypt, its effectively a military country with a civilian mask, the MB were the brief exception to that. Who ever rules after the interim minster will crush any kind of decent with approval of the military and police.

Some times people can get used to slavery, Tamarrud movement was a clear example of that.

The last hope is Syria, I am 100% sure they are planning a kind of sahwa like Iraq or a coup like this.

 

[Developereo]

you mean , west paid millions people to demonstrate / protest ?

Have you forgotten the CIA's involvement in ousting Mossadeq to install the Shah of Iran?

There are always sore losers in any close election, and it's a well known science to manipulate and exploit such feelings to a desired end.

Mubarak was a dutiful stooge.

Morsi, on the other hand, was improving relations with China, Iran, Russia.

He had to go!

 

[RazPaK]

Arabs and Persians have ruined Islam. I hope they wipe eachother out.


I have hazara friends. They believe in Allah swt, and so do I.

So why are they my enemy? Because they are Shia and I am Sunni?

No, its..

Because of arab and iranian immaturity.

 

[Hussein]

Have you forgotten the CIA's involvement in ousting Mossadeq to install the Shah of Iran?

There are always sore losers in any close election, and it's a well known science to manipulate and exploit such feelings to a desired end.

we never forget it

but it was very absolutely different .
CIA supported the shah and the participation of CIA was there but not as much as the shah thugs . shah is the number one responsible. but yeah we can blame cia .. in that period they were very active to make cheat in the world (south america especially)

the difference is:
shah was ruler and people were clearly side of Mosaddeq
in Egypt people are side of anti Morsi and if cia was involved then it would mean they were the side of people, not like with Mosaddeq time

 

[Juice]

The Egyptian media is dominated by the pro-Western crowd.

Anyone who supports Morsi is described as an "Islamist". Anyone who opposes him is shown as a patriot.

If the Egyptian media were dominated by the other side, they would have portrayed the demonstrators as anti-democracy, Mubarak loyalists.

Lol....half here are saying the US supported Morsi....half say we are having him thrown out. Which is it? (the comments on American sites are mostly of the opinion that the Muslim Brotherhood got what they had coming)

 

[Developereo]

in Egypt people are side of anti Morsi

The anti-Morsi crowd are the usual pro-West vocal crowd.

They are very tech- and media-savvy. They dominate the internet and the media. They know how to get the world's attention.

Don't you find it surprising that all these rallies have banners in English? Who in Egypt needs banners in English?

When's the last time you saw a French, Japanese or German protest with English banners?

Lol....half here are saying the US supported Morsi....

The US only "supported" Morsi perfunctorily, to keep up the banner of "defender of democracy around the world". After all, the US government has to keep the domestic public fooled, just as well as the international crowd.

Mubarak was a dutiful stooge. There was no way Morsi would be anywhere near as pliable as Mubarak was.

And, remember, I am not defending Moris or his policies. I am defending the principles of democracy that, if you don't like the result, you don't go around throwing loud tantrums until you get your way -- or get the army to do your dirty work. You use democratic mechanisms.

 

[Algeria]

Lol....half here are saying the US supported Morsi....half say we are having him thrown out. Which is it? (the comments on American sites are mostly of the opinion that the Muslim Brotherhood got what they had coming)

You Americans have no say in this, the military went through with the coup even after threats of cutting aid. They made a calculated mistake and the hope the Algerian civil war is not repeated even though it seems inevitable.

 

[Juice]

I didn't say we did....just that the comments hint at that. (ps....we have a say in everything....like it or not)

 

[somebozo]

I am perplexed by Arab hypocrisy. Al Quaida terrorist in Syria are good guys, their auxiliary proxy in Egypt are bad. Finally end of shariah nonsense in Egypt...Turks should grab some shame!

Gulf states welcome ouster of Egypt's president
July 04 2013 08:30
Rise of Mursi's Muslim Brotherhood has unsettled most rulers in Gulf Arab states
By Reuters
Thursday, 4 July 2013 8:30 AM

An Egyptian protester waves the national flag during a demonstration against president Mohamed Mursi and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt's landmark Tahrir square. (AFP/Getty Images)
Gulf Arab states welcomed the Egyptian army's ouster of Islamist President Mohamed Mursi on Wednesday following days of unrest in a country once seen by Gulf Arabs as an instrumental ally against rival power Iran.

The rise of Mursi's Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt following the ouster of President Hosni Mubarak in 2011 has unsettled most Gulf Arab states, including the UAE, which feared it would embolden Islamists at home.

Qatar was alone among Gulf Arab states in celebrating the 2011 Arab Spring revolt that toppled Mubarak, a foe of Iran and a longtime ally of the hereditary states that sit on nearly a quarter of the world's oil reserves.

Saudi state news agency SPA said King Abdullah sent a message of congratulations to the head of the Egyptian Constitutional Court, Adli Mansour, who had been appointed as interim head of state.

"In the name of the people of Saudi Arabia and on my behalf, we congratulate your leadership of Egypt in this critical period of its history. We pray for God to help you bear the responsibility laid upon you to achieve the ambitions of our brotherly people of Egypt," the message said.

The statement also praised the Egyptian armed forces for leading Egypt out of what it said was a "tunnel that only God knows its dimensions and repercussions".

The United Arab Emirates also welcomed the change in Egypt, according to state news agency WAM, and praised the Egyptian armed forces.

"His Highness Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahayan, the Foreign Minister of the UAE, expressed his full confidence that the great people of Egypt are able to cross these difficult moments that Egypt is going through," WAM said in a statement.

"Sheikh Abdullah said that the great Egyptian army was able to prove again that they are the fence of Egypt and that they are the protector and strong shield that guarantee Egypt will remain a state of institutions and law," it added.

There was no word from Qatar, the only Gulf Arab country to have publicly sided with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Witnesses said the country deployed extra police forces around the Egyptian Embassy in Doha.

Qatar's emir stepped down last week in favour of his son, raising speculation the world's largest exporter of liquefied natural gas may be reconsidering its support for the Muslim Brotherhood.

Influential Muslim cleric Youssef al-Qaradawi, an Egyptian seen close to the Muslim Brotherhood who had lived in Qatar for many years, is reported to be in Egypt. He had denied reports that Qatar's new emir, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, had asked him to leave the country.

Qatar has been a major financier of the Islamist groups around the Arab World, including Egypt's Brotherhood.

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[somebozo]

Apparently from what I have heard that there was a recent threat from armed bediouns from Sinai, Egyptian
Islamic Jihad and other Islamist supporters. Firstly, electing a Christian as an interim minister was an insult for them. Secondly, the recent attack in Alexandria and Cairo where seculars were assaulting women and attacking Mosques while others praying reminded them of the dark days of Mubarak that feared the seculars would be like him when elected. When Morsi refused to step down, he knew he was going to get ousted because in order to get him ousted, it will lead to an armed conflict between supporters and opponents and the army defense chief knew also before the coup he said he will defend Egypt from terrorist and ignorance. The people are still excited but they shouldn't because it's not over yet and they may be deaf and blind for not hearing the serious threats via social sites and media coming from the supporters after the coup. I blame the opposition for causing choas in streets like attacking mosques and hurting supporters for being 'over excited'. This may sound like what happened in the Algerian civil war but this one is different.

How can idiots like these run a country?

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[iranigirl2]

Israel fears Jihadist attacks after Morsi's ouster


State officials warn growing instability in Egypt will create vacuum in Sinai which could be exploited for execution of terror attacks. 'Israel enjoyed good security cooperation with Morsi's Egypt,' says one official.

A day after the Egyptian army deposed President Mohamed Morsi and suspended the constitution, Israel is concerned that Jihadists will exploit the situation to carry out terror attacks.



"It's hard to believe the Egyptians will overcome the ever-deepening polarization between the Islamist Egypt and the secular Egypt," an Israeli state official estimated Wednesday.


"Ultimately, they will have no choice but to find an agreed-upon framework for cooperation but until they do, we might see violent clashes," he added.



On Wednesday, former Defense Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer remarked that "The Muslim Brotherhood's bizarre regime is over and done with. If a secular candidate wins it will have a huge impact on the entire Middle East."



State officials describe the current situation in Cairo as a nerve-wracking game of poker. "On the one hand, Morsi doesn't want to resign; on the other, the army doesn't want to take full responsibility. Egyptians are starting to realize that Islam is not the answer. It provides them with no solution to the economic situation," one state official said.


He noted that Israel enjoyed good security cooperation with Egypt under Morsi's leadership. "It's not about us, we're monitoring the situation from the sidelines."


The Prime Minister's bureau has ordered the cabinet not to publically discuss Egypt.

Government officials denied reports that Israel has allowed the Egyptian army to deploy reinforcements in the Sinai Peninsula.



However, the past few days have seen increased military activity in the border area with Egyptians trying to seal smuggling tunnels between Gaza and Egypt. The Egyptian army is hoping to prevent the movement of Hamas militants from the Strip to Egypt and thwart the smuggling of weapons into the country.



State officials have admitted that growing instability in Egypt would make it harder for the Egyptians to maintain their control in Sinai. The main concern is that Jihadists will use the vacuum to try to carry out terrorist attacks against Israel or the Egyptian army.


Israel fears Jihadist attacks after Morsi's ouster - Israel News, Ynetnews

 

[MooshMoosh]

Pics of arrest

 

[somebozo]

An Egyptian family on motorcycle celebrates in Cairo on July 3, 2013 after a broadcast confirming that the army will temporarily be taking over from the country's first democratically elected president Mohammed Morsi. In their tens of thousands, they cheered, ignited firecrackers and honked horns as soon as the army announced President Mohamed Morsi's rule was over, ending Egypt's worst crisis since its 2011 revolt. (AFP/Getty Images)

Fireworks light up the sky as Hundreds of thousands of Egyptians celebrate after Egytptian Defense Minister Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's speech announcing The Egyptian army toppling Islamist President Mohamed Morsi in Egypt's landmark Tahrir square on July 3, 2013 in Cairo, Egypt. Opposition leader Mohamed ElBaradei and the heads of the Coptic Church and Al-Azhar -- Sunni Islam's highest seat of learning -- will unveil an army roadmap for Egypt's future after President Mohamed Morsi, state television said. (AFP/Getty Images)

An Egyptian family celebrates in Cairo on July 3, 2013 after a broadcast confirming that the army will temporarily be taking over from the country's first democratically elected president Mohammed Morsi. In their tens of thousands, they cheered, ignited firecrackers and honked horns as soon as the army announced President Mohamed Morsi's rule was over, ending Egypt's worst crisis since its 2011 revolt. (AFP/Getty Images)