Egypt and Algeria 'stunned' as Turkey gains strategic control in North Africa

[anatolia]

Unfortunately, they are not.

Turkey has the highest amount of jailed journalists in the world. You can't explain that hey this journalists is a terrorist. Let's say one or two of them are really terrorists but hundreds of journalist terrorists? And it is the only country in the world where there are journalist terrorists? It goes against simple logic.

not terrorist but nobody is special .you go jail if you broke the law like Mit operation or recently some leftist journalist media has showed id of mit personal ..

That’s another aspect that you cannot understand what happened in Egypt during the last 10 years ..... you are dealing with that just as a reflection of your own experience of military coups .....!!
Which is wrong.....!
There was a domino effect in the Middle East in changing the governments and being a failed state ..... but the solid core of Egypt which is the Army saved Egypt from that fate ...... things are different if you see it from our perspective ..... I don’t care who rule Egypt as long as he is a true Egyptian ..... and if Elsisi deviated from that path ..... we will be against him as well.

Regarding the jailed Turkish ..... plz man there are many persons jailed for only being against Erdogan .... plz be fare .... they are human beings and have families.

about freedom in Turkey ..... let’s take a small example ..... like jailing Journalists .... in this subject.... you have full marks dear

i reall got your point so good luck to Egypt.i hope everything would better for both of us in near future.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

MB condemned the islamist insurgency in 90s between military and FIS they didnt participate in civile war big difference between them and FIS which is more extremist and radical parti after they was in power alliance in 2000s

More detail about FIS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Salvation_Front

Yeah I mean GNA is Islamists dominated. Algeria is hostile to Islamists considering they fought a war against Islamists in 90s and won. So no way Algeria would ever back GNA.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Yeah I mean GNA is Islamists dominated. Algeria is hostile to Islamists considering they fought a war against Islamists in 90s and won. So no way Algeria would ever back GNA.

So why do you think Haftar calls himself Khalifa? You think Haftar's forces are super secular? Throw dirt enough, and some will stick Better read about Libya more, Ruskie...

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

So why do you think Haftar calls himself Khalifa? You think Haftar's forces are super secular? Throw dirt enough, and some will stick Better read about Libya more, Ruskie...

Sarraj and Haftar. Both dictators backed by foreigners.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Both dictators

Dictators? There is only one dictator and it is the coup leader Haftar. Sarraj has been only a temporary leader from the start kiddo and this just shows your true mindset...

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Dictators? There is only one dictator and it is the coup leader Haftar. Sarraj has been only a temporary leader from the start kiddo and this just shows your true mindset...

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Sarraj and Haftar are both presidents for life. Sarraj rules western Libya. Haftar rule eastern Libya. This is the agreement between Putin and Erdogan.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Sarraj and Haftar are both presidents for life. Sarraj rules western Libya. Haftar rule eastern Libya. This is the agreement between Putin and Erdogan.

Were you with them when they were deciding on this?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Were you with them when they were deciding on this?

Eastern Libyans absolutely hate Western Libyans. They killed Gaddafi for neglecting Benghazi for decades. Every time there is uprising in Libya it always starts in Eastern Libya. That's why Western Libya will never take Eastern Libya by force.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Eastern Libyans absolutely hate Western Libyans. They killed Gaddafi for neglecting Benghazi for decades. Every time there is uprising in Libya it always starts in Eastern Libya. That's why Western Libya will never take Eastern Libya by force.

Libya will stay as a 1 (one) country no matter what happens...They might be splitted as states at the worst case( but not gonna happen IMO) but they will stay as a one (1) country no matter what some Russian troll thinks...
P.S. Haftar cannot stay in his position for a day without the foreign support from his supporters...

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Libya will stay as a 1 (one) country no matter what happens...They might be splitted as states at the worst case( but not gonna happen IMO) but they will stay as a one (1) country no matter what some Russian troll thinks...

If Western Libya invades Eastern Libya that triggers a bloody war and then bam UNSC resolution French air force Rafales decimate GNA so they might as well not do that.

 

[LeGenD]

الاختلافات السياسية يجب ان لا تفرقنا نحن العرب بغض النظر عن الحكومات التي بيدها السلطة. الشعب السعودي و الشعب المصري هم إخوة جغرافيا، تاريخيا، وبالدم ايضا، و بالعلاقات الأسرية و الثقافة. جزيرتا تيران و صنافير هما جزيرتان سعوديتان. انظر الرابط أدناه.

http://www.kfcris.com/pdf/01b7caee30524d724432198c6819bb035988303421a61.pdf

اذا كنت تطالب بتلك الجزيرة اليونانية ، فالاجدر بك ان تطالب ايضا بنصف دولة تركيا المعاصرة.

المملكة العربية السعودية لا علاقة لها بالأحداث المعاصرة التي تحري حاليا في مصر، السعودية دائما تقف بجانب مصر والشعب المصري، السعودية تستضيف اكبر جاليه مصريه في الخارج​

Write on my profile page and let us continue the discusison there if you are serious and not some false-flagger troll. Changing that Albanian flag might help too.
Lastly don't talk about ignorance when you are incapable of writing in fus7a. Ignorance is quite frankly the amount of nonsense claims and pathetic blame games of yours.

Get it into your head that I don't give a crap about ruler x or y, what matters is the stability and prosperity of Arab country x or y and as a neighbor of KSA, Egypt's stability is of utmost importance. People of Hijaz and vice versa consider each other as family. Either you are an illiterate MB cult member or an Albanian false-flagger that is clueless.

You can convey your POV in a better way than that. Toning down accusations and labels is the key.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Tunisia's Islamist government seems to be pro GNA which is basically MB. Tunisia congratulated GNA after GNA took Watiya airbase. Egypt bought MiG-29 and Ka-52 from Russia to secure Russia's support in Libya war. Algeria is a heavy client state of Russia. It's natural Algeria does not support GNA. Algeria remains fairly neutral. Algeria in the past used to fight MB for decades when MB tried to take over Algeria in the 90s.

On what basis are you declaring FIS as MB? From what I remember, they have no relation to them.

 

[-SINAN-]

That’s another aspect that you cannot understand what happened in Egypt during the last 10 years ..... you are dealing with that just as a reflection of your own experience of military coups .....!!
Which is wrong.....!
There was a domino effect in the Middle East in changing the governments and being a failed state ..... but the solid core of Egypt which is the Army saved Egypt from that fate ...... things are different if you see it from our perspective ..... I don’t care who rule Egypt as long as he is a true Egyptian ..... and if Elsisi deviated from that path ..... we will be against him as well.

Regarding the jailed Turkish ..... plz man there are many persons jailed for only being against Erdogan .... plz be fare .... they are human beings and have families.

about freedom in Turkey ..... let’s take a small example ..... like jailing Journalists .... in this subject.... you have full marks dear

Bro, have you seen my message?

 

[Amun]

Bro, have you seen my message?

that one in private...,?
Yes bro ....

How is Sissi "true Egyptian" but Morsi wasn't? Lol...what do you even mean by that?

Egypt was a consequential regional power under Morsi. Not under Morsi...what i mean is that Egypt was a significant regional power under democratic govt. But not anymore. Even Israel-Palestine talks are now brokered by Turkey (the REAL regional super power of Eastern Mediterranean now).

Having a despotic ruler who killed elected President and now gets 97% of votes in the elections....this makes Egypt a joke in the eyes of the world. See how American night shows made fun of Egyptian "elections" last time. Facts are facts bro.

We all want a strong Egypt....a Egypt ruled by democratic forces would have been a stronger player in the region, most likely allied with Turkey to control Mediterranean and exert influence North Africa. But now, Egypt is a client state of UAE princess while Turkey is emerging as the most powerful regional power through its successful campaigns in Syria and now Libya. Google NY Times news on Libya today...they called Turkey's victories "stunning" and called Turkey the "king maker" in the region.

This would have been Egypt under democracy and its post revolution constitution

I will ask you a few questions..... plz answer them if you really care...

- how could you ever say that Egypt was a regional power under Morsi rule while he was in power for only 1 year...?!
- as a Pakistani supporter of MB and Morsi to rule MY COUNTRY (Egypt) .... what have you done for us ( Egyptians) while we have Gasoline and electricity crisis during the rule of Morsi ..?!

- as a Pakistani supporter of MB and Morsi .... how could you help us when Morsi declared himself above the law by his constitutional declaration ....?!

- as a Pakistani supporter of MB and Morsi , how could you protect Normal Egyptians from the acts of MB members in the streets of Egypt....?!

- as a Pakistani supporter of MB and Morsi , what the actions that you will do about Morsi’s inviting the Killers of our Hero late present Anwar Elsadat during celebrations of the Vicory in October war ( our national pride).

- as a Pakistani supporter of MB and Morsi , what could you do for us as we are seeing those humble , religious and smiley MEMBERS of MB turned to be arrogant, tough and detached against common Egyptians ......!?

 

[The SC]

Don't worry mr saudia arabie guy , I'm 100 Egyptian أنا مصري ميه بالميه و مش عايز اشرح ليك او لغيرك اكتر من كده عشان انتو بتخنقوني بصراحة بتخوين كل معارض لبلحة النحس.

The islands were not given to saudias during Mubarak era ( whom he was a close friend to gulf countries and even participated in kuwait freedom war with Egyptian troops).

yeah i call them gayreeks, and I don't consider them a close friends to Egypt there were occupiers and don't get me started about invasion.

google Chios جزيرة خيوس المصرية >> ignorant saudi.


could be, but that would never happen .. you see israel from one side , gulf arabs from other side all want Egypt to be weak, especially those saudis who dream about being the cop of middle east, they think by having money they can be something important Haha.

That happened with defining the EEZ of Egypt in the Mediterranean sea and the red sea.. and it has happened in Sissi's Era not Mubarak's..

You just seem to have hatred for the Saudis who have supported Egypt for decades and fought beside EAF with men and Material in all its wars against Usrael.. maybe you are too young to know these facts.. but even the current king of KSA fought alongside Egyptian forces.... try to learn about things before saying empty words here just to spit out your negative emotions..