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Educated Indians' support for Modi is a sad let down

Nasty Lhasa are pure bad breeding. I have the sweetest and bravest one. His half brother (different mom) is a nasty turd.

Also the master's disposition is mirrored by the dog. And family vibe.

To jamahir - dogs can smell your fear a mile away. And then they become hunters.
 
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To jamahir - dogs can smell your fear a mile away. And then they become hunters.

well, while walking on the roads, if i see a dog, i keep at least five feet away from it ( especially to show to people ) and i maintain a non-fearing pose.
 
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i naturally like cats and that also contributes to shaping my world-view.
both are ok, it's not a zero sum game.

I have a slight preference for cats too, but dogs are ok, dogs are great

my friends were fearfully standing stiff a distance away and i later joined them.

the ones sniggering and laughing were the dogs's masters, about three people, if i remember correctly.
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Nasty Lhasa are pure bad breeding. I have the sweetest and bravest one. His half brother (different mom) is a nasty turd.

Also the master's disposition is mirrored by the dog. And family vibe.

To jamahir - dogs can smell your fear a mile away. And then they become hunters.
could well be the master's disposition too, lol

street mutts are the best.
 
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Sir, u r wrong, no Kannada Telugu people keep such a name as moopan these names are of malayali or tamil origin. These malayali commies and these dravida parties are anti Hindus , non of you have even mentioned the lynching of ramesh poojary of moodbidri Karnataka by members of peoples front of India a radical militant sunni Muslim organisation

you are talking about ''shame''??..Seen that when you guys were defending and justifying dadri incident in this very forum..
Cheta, I know u r a mapilla Muslim , but what do u say about the lynching of ramesh poojary of moodbidri karnataka by members of peoples front of India (radical Muslim organization) for stopping smuggling of cows for slaughter.
 
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How come communist idea failed in a time when communist china top of the world and communist kerala is top in every hdi index

What about former communist West Bengal?
Kerala developed not because of Communist .But the heard work of poor keralites.

On topic:Educated guys dont have any time to waste on third world shit .They need strong leaders .Not some weakned guys.And simply media or psuedosecularists or politicians cant fool them
 
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educated indians supported modi for not that he makes beef eating an issue....Modi means RSS and RSS is not good for secular India..so next general election, Modi will be kicked out! No matter how good he is!
 
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Sir, u r wrong, no Kannada Telugu people keep such a name as moopan these names are of malayali or tamil origin.
yenappa sumne tale tinta idiya??..naa kannadiga anta nimm hattra yaaryelidru??naane ee forumnalli ellaadru helidra??kannada bashey kooda ondchuru barodilla nanagu,dayavittu thappaagi hangella ankobedi..nenu telegu kaadu,nenu okka malayali christian,Tamilnadu hosur daggara attibele lo poyina 3 samvatsaram nundi okka company lo pani chesthunanu..sare na,artham aayinda??
 
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yenappa sumne tale tinta idiya??..naa kannadiga anta nimm hattra yaaryelidru??naane ee forumnalli ellaadru helidra??kannada bashey kooda ondchuru barodilla nanagu,dayavittu thappaagi hangella ankobedi..nenu telegu kaadu,nenu okka malayali christian,Tamilnadu hosur daggara attibele lo poyina 3 samvatsaram nundi okka company lo pani chesthunanu..sare na,artham aayinda??
At last u r in Karnataka for job, why what happened to ur commie govt in Kerala have they not provided jobs to u?
 
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Opinion polls from Bihar only confirm what one already suspected for the country as a whole, namely that while the peasantry is not much enamoured of Narendra Modi, the urban middle class is. Since the weight of the educated segment is greater among the latter, it would appear that Modi has considerable appeal even among the educated, a fact that is also confirmed by the kind of reception he gets from professionals of Indian origin in the Silicon Valley and elsewhere who are basically urban-educated émigrés.

This appears intriguing at first sight. The educated segment in any society is supposed to defend, more than any other section, the foundational principles of that society -principles around which the constitutional order of that society is built. In the current Indian context, this segment would have been expected to be the one most concerned with the preservation of democracy, secularism, fundamental rights and the autonomy and sanctity of academic institutions. No matter what his precise culpability in the anti-Muslim pogrom in Gujarat in 2002, Modi had undeniably presided over it and has never expressed any remorse for his lapses. Given this fact, one would have expected the urban-educated elite to be the group most sceptical about him. No doubt a considerable section of it is; but not, apparently, the bulk of it.

Indeed, even without going back to 2002, the recent spate of attacks on the secular fabric of modern India, including the horrendous lynching in Dadri of a member of the minority community for allegedly eating beef - an incident over which Modi, for a long time maintained a deafening silence that was entirely unbecoming of a constitutionally-appointed prime minister of the country - should have made the educated sections stand as one in holding him to account. Such, alas, has not been the case.

People may differ in their politics and I have no problem with those among the educated elite who may choose to vote for the Bharatiya Janata Party. What concerns me is that their enthusiasm for Modi does not appear to be tempered by any disquiet over the threat to our secular order that is building up under his dispensation, a threat towards which his attitude, even by the most charitable interpretation, has been one of benign neglect.

Those who currently hold Modi in adulation may soon change their attitude as the hollowness of his promise of "development" becomes increasingly evident, which inevitably would. But such a change would then have occurred for an altogether different reason from the one I am discussing. The abdication by the educated elite of its role as keepers of our constitutional conscience would not have been negated by it.

On the occasion of Modi's America visit, over a hundred distinguished academics located there, both of Indian origin and others, had sent a letter to the leaders of Silicon Valley companies, voicing their disquiet over recent developments in India under Modi's leadership, and requesting them not to support his Digital India initiative. The Silicon Valley executives, however, who played host to him, did not respond to this letter in any manner, not even to the minimal extent of saying that this was a matter they preferred not to get directly involved in. This, at least, would have shown that they were worried about the attacks on secularism. Instead, they ignored it altogether. The unmistakable impression one got is that the attack on secularism was, for them, not a matter of concern at all. Like the members of the educated elite located in India, the Silicon Valley professionals too expressed no anxiety over the treatment of the minorities, and the threat to democratic rights in Modi's India.

This brings me to the crucial question: how can one explain this enthusiasm for Modi among significant sections of the educated elite? One answer that is often advanced is that the preceding corruption-ridden Manmohan Singh regime had become so repugnant that there was hardly any alternative to Modi, and that even members of the educated elite were forced to hold their noses and vote for Modi despite his dubious record on secularism. This answer, however, simply would not do, for we find very little evidence of noses being held. What a large chunk of the educated elite feels towards Modi is not mere sceptical tolerance but unabashed enthusiasm, which also means that contrary to what one normally expects, the support of much of the educated elite for secularism and universal democratic rights is less than lukewarm.

This to my mind has to do inter alia with our educational system: its structure, orientation, and the nature of student intake. The obvious structural problem in our education system relates to the poor quality of the humanities and the social science disciplines. These disciplines are neglected, starved of funds and treated as inferior. All over the world, it is the social science disciplines, rather than the natural sciences, that have propagated a progressive social outlook and have stood for democracy, human rights and secularism. There have undoubtedly been individual scientists - from Albert Einstein to J.D. Bernal - who have plunged themselves actively into the struggle for a humane society. But scientists as a rule have tended to keep aloof from such struggles.

Not surprisingly, dictatorial regimes throughout the world have always actively discouraged social sciences in their respective countries. The disproportionate emphasis on science and engineering disciplines in contemporary India has thus tended to keep the elite produced by the education system relatively unconcerned about issues of secularism and democracy. It has kept large sections of this elite trapped within their inherited caste and communal prejudices.

The problem with the orientation of our education system consists in our apotheosizing the role of education in producing merely skilled personnel as commodities to be sold to the highest bidder in the market rather than socially-sensitive individuals not exclusively absorbed by their own material self-interest. This is something that I have already discussed in an earlier article ("Learning and intensity", Sept 4), and shall not repeat here.

The issue to my mind is simply the following. It is not the case that only social scientists should be concerned with society and not scientists and engineers. "Nation-building", to use that clumsy term, is a matter that concerns everybody and not just those engaged in the humanities and social sciences. Everyone, therefore, and not just those studying the humanities and social sciences, must be exposed to, and must engage with, the basic constitutional premises underlying the modern Indian nation. This, precisely, is not what is being done.

Finally, in the matter of student intake, the representation of Muslims, Dalits and other oppressed castes and the economically poor remains woefully inadequate. Some years ago, notwithstanding the fact that almost a quarter of the population of West Bengal consisted of Muslims, the proportion of Muslim names in the list of successful Class XII students hardly exceeded two per cent. I doubt if the situation has changed much. The same is true of Dalits and other oppressed castes. What is true of West Bengal is even more resoundingly true of the other states.

In other words, the composition of the educated elite has been heavily biased in favour of those coming from the upper castes, the upper and upper-middle income groups, and from the majority religious community. The prejudices these class members imbibe from childhood are not broken in the course of their passage through the education system of the country, which explains why their commitment to the founding constitutional principles of the modern Indian nation remains less than lukewarm.

This is an extremely untenable situation. Antonio Gramsci had emphasized that a new social order required its own group of "organic intellectuals" for its sustenance. The purpose of the education system in post-Independence India should have been the creation of a group of "organic intellectuals" of the post-colonial order who would have remained committed to the basic agenda of the anti-colonial struggle that was enshrined, in however refracted a form, in the Constitution. A glaring failure of post-Independence India has been that it has not created such a group of "organic intellectuals"; and this poses a serious threat to the sustenance of a democratic and secular polity.

Shortly after Modi came to power, an American professor of philosophy had remarked that his success was, above all, an indictment of the Indian education system. She was right. And the persisting enthusiasm for Modi among large sections of the educated elite, that too after a year marked by serious attacks on the secular foundations of India's polity, constitutes an even more damning indictment of the Indian education system.


A glaring failure

@jamahir @Joe Shearer @Kao Boy @doublemaster
@JoeShearer sir, did you write this? :)

In any case, the era of pseudo secularism and intellectual elitism is over. Not just in India but all over the world. Education and high places are no longer the reserve of a selected elitist few. Mass media (including sold out ones) and the Internet has led to the dissemination of free knowledge. Big movements happen. They don't fear Modi. They fear us, the people. And the fear is justified as it negates their position of pomp and prestige.

We better know what is the best for our country. No matter how big propaganda is going on against Mr. Modi, Mr. Modi will be there for next coming 10 years .
That is partly because there will be no real contender for the top post for the next 10 years, unless there is a miracle. But Modi has proved his mettle in the short time already. Except that he has failed to shut the anti national media with vested interests. That may (at most) reduce his party's majority to a coalition in the 2019 elections.

It IS largely a caste thing.

Hindutva is fighting the battle more within than without.
True. The Brahmins are the worst of anti Hindus. All Eminents are High castes. Elites. Trying to remain elites.
 
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At last u r in Karnataka for job, why what happened to ur commie govt in Kerala have they not provided jobs to u?
I presume you a telegu..
for every other Malayali in Bangalore there are 3x Telegus from Andra Pradesh(I am not including those telegus from kolar,chinthamani etc or Krishnagiri,darmapuri etc Tamilnadu)...Why have they not providing jobs for your brothers??
 
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I presume you a telegu..
for every other Malayali in Bangalore there are 3x Telegus from Andra Pradesh(I am not including those telegus from kolar,chinthamani etc or Krishnagiri,darmapuri etc Tamilnadu)...Why have they not providing jobs for your brothers??
Do you know that the first cm of Karnataka was teluguTelugu, and sir m vishweshwariah is a Telugu, and many great Kannada writers are teluguites, and Kolar and chintamini are not different kolar is a district, and the founder of Bangalore kempe gowda spoke telugu, and vijayanagara kings spoke telugu , tumkur, davangere, ballary, Raichur, bidar dist have millions of Telugu speakers, and go around Bangalore and see how many Telugu names of areas and streets, this is our state we have marital relations with Kannada speakers, we live and die here unlike migrants like u who run away after what u have got.
 
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Do you know that the first cm of Karnataka was teluguTelugu, and sir m vishweshwariah is a Telugu, and many great Kannada writers are teluguites, and Kolar and chintamini are not different kolar is a district, and the founder of Bangalore kempe gowda spoke telugu, and vijayanagara kings spoke telugu , tumkur, davangere, ballary, Raichur, bidar dist have millions of Telugu speakers, and go around Bangalore and see how many Telugu names of areas and streets, this is our state we have marital relations with Kannada speakers, we live and die here unlike migrants like u who run away after what u have got.
..I am talking about those Telegus from Andra,say from Anantapur district..I personally know some 10-12 telegus from ANANTAPUR district alone,who are working in Bangalore and Hosur both monthly and daily wage groups.....Don't say Anantpur district comes under Karnataka state..Aren't they migrants just like a Tamil or a Malayali like me in Karnataka??..
You have all positives in Andra-a metropolitan city like Hyderabad,another biggie like Vishakapattanam,predominant Hindu population,pro development ""non commie'' government,lots of IT and industrial hubs,tonnes of job opportunities..But why still those folks are heading towards Bangalore,Mysore,Hubli or Hosur for living??
 
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..I am talking about those Telegus from Andra,say frtamilians,pur district..I personally know some 10-12 telegus from ANANTAPUR district alone,who are working in Bangalore and Hosur both monthly and daily wage groups.....Don't say Anantpur district comes under Karnataka state..Aren't they migrants just like a Tamil or a Malayali like me in Karnataka??..
You have all positives in Andra-a metropolitan city like Hyderabad,another biggie like Vishakapattanam,predominant Hindu population,pro development ""non commie'' government,lots of IT and industrial hubs,tonnes of job opportunities..But why still those folks are heading towards Bangalore,Mysore,Hubli or Hosur for living??
Those are not welcome here, any one can live anywhare unless otherwise they create nusence like the tamilians, see what happened to them in chamrajpet, and as for malayalis there are a lot of them and I have many friends, I am saying of those of you newbies who migrate and create nusence and try to preach your commie ideology to us
 
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