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And before people start shouting Indian Propoganda ....

Please read This Original Editorial in A Pakistani News paper




Editorial: Training camps along LoC?

The Indian Defence Minister, AK Antony, has accused Pakistan of running training camps for militants infiltrating into Indian-occupied Kashmir. He wants them dismantled as soon as possible “because their presence is a threat to India”. He has added to the Indian prime minister’s earlier plaint that militants in Pakistan were plotting new attacks on India.
This has followed on the heels of accusations made by an American official about continued militant activity from the Pakistani side. But in the case of the latest accusation by Mr Antony, there is a “discrepancy” that is striking. Whereas Mr Singh had pointed to a militant threat from directions more than the one of Kashmir, the defence minister is focusing exclusively on Kashmir and the Line of Control (LoC).
In fact Mr Singh had noted a reduction in the intensity of infiltration into Kashmir compared to past years. This has also been corroborated by Indian army officials. Has some additional dossier of facts come to light since Mr Singh spoke that the defence minister has been forced to comment on it? Pakistan has already officially disavowed any planning in Pakistan about “attacks into India” and has asked New Delhi to consult before going public on issues within the Indo-Pak equation.
On the other hand, Pakistan can hardly issue guarantees that that there is no planning going on inside Pakistan by non-state actors for more attacks inside India. It has already admitted to it in the past: it had no clue that a “charity organisation” was plotting the 2008 Mumbai attacks and wants more evidence from India to punish those who did it. But the question of “camps along the LoC” is different.
Let us first set the record state. Such camps were functional along the LoC in the past. The entire world knew about them. Pakistani journalists knew about them and accounts were written about the heroism of their inmates in in-house journals that jihadi organisations published and circulated all over Pakistan. The truth is that Pakistan gave itself a bad name and endangered its own security at the hands of these “trainees” later on.
But if one talks about the camps today it will give rise to argument. If Pakistan is organising more non-state actors for assaults inside India who can they be? The one jihadi organisation it thought loyal to Pakistan stands banned and its leader is under trial for terrorism. Other non-state actors have gone and joined the Taliban and Al Qaeda and are at war with Pakistan, using the training taken at these camps against the Pakistan army.
Yet if the Foreign Office in Pakistan was asking the Indian side to be more specific, Mr Antony has done just that. He says attacks across the LoC are the biggest danger India faces from Pakistan. However, it contradicts what Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was referring to a day earlier. Mr Singh had said that there was “substantial improvement in Jammu and Kashmir” but there were other “disturbing trends on the horizon” too. He was clearly referring to a new “sea route”.
The Foreign Office in Pakistan thinks that India should talk to Pakistan officially before going public with accusations of the above sort. Charges against Pakistan made public in India tend to stoke the fires of prejudice there and close the door on negotiation and reconciliation which is the only way to bring closure to the problem of infiltration. And if there are ambivalences in Indian perceptions they can best be resolved through mutually exchanged official messages.
Training camps are not something that can be concealed from the world in these days of satellite photography. Pakistan would be foolhardy in restarting something which has not succeeded in the past and which endangers its own internal security now. And it can’t send its regular troops into Kashmir. In the absence of consultations with India, Pakistan can, however, do what India is doing: go public with rebuttals that further spoil the bilateral relationship.
Given these circumstances, our suggestion to Prime Minister Singh is that he should decide quickly about restarting the stalled dialogue with Pakistan, preceded if he likes by some back-channel communication on what the resumed dialogue will discuss. New trouble is now emanating from such “unilateral” statements like the one he and his defence minister have now made. *

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
 
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It is of no use brother.. According to our neighbour, there is no terrorist camps there... Instead to telling them we should increase our homeland security.. we should be more disciplined and alert...
"They will reap what they sow", just wait for some more time..It has already begun.
 
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So...? there will always remain training camp in kashmir to help the kashmiris fight for there freedom against the indians.:pakistan:
 
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ya,, let it be there... let them come.. Our army is waiting for them for their shooting practice..

wow very well trained army when ajmal kasssab took over mumbai for 4 days and ur elite modern commandoes was unable to take out one man army and killed hundreds of people in cross fire according to some reports those jews were died by firing of elite indian commandoes>>>>>>>>>>>>w:pakistan::pakistan::pakistan::pakistan::pakistan:ow now i am really scared
 
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wow very well trained army when ajmal kasssab took over mumbai for 4 days and ur elite modern commandoes was unable to take out one man army and killed hundreds of people in cross fire according to some reports those jews were died by firing of elite indian commandoes

Don't remind me about Lal Masjid. And what reports you are indicating. You mean Press was inside the Hotel.

First of grew then comment.
 
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Fact is that fundamentalists will eventually turn against the state. There is no way to control them.

If Pakistan government cares about human development, they should take away the guns and give them books.
 
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wow very well trained army when ajmal kasssab took over mumbai for 4 days and ur elite modern commandoes was unable to take out one man army and killed hundreds of people in cross fire according to some reports those jews were died by firing of elite indian commandoes>>>>>>>>>>>>w:pakistan::pakistan::pakistan::pakistan::pakistan:ow now i am really scared

the bottomline Mr Moron..is that 9 idiot terrorists who were made to believe that they can come to India..attack and kill innocent people ..and get back to Pakistan easily..got their azz blasted.....and the one alive has been talking like a parrot...busting Pakistani lies.......they managed to stay alive fo 4 days ..because we value our citizens life and property..not like Pakistan who force their people into ..refuge camps...to bomb their houses...just to make money by way of foregin aid...by showing the world....look we are bombing our own land for you ....now please give us some money...... :pop:
 
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Whereas there were training camps in the past, it was pretty much necessary to weaken Indian control on Kashmir. These days its necessary to have them removed. But the infiltration must go on, and the IA's illegal occupation and terrorism in Kashmir must be fought... send in Pakistani regulars instead.
 
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Whereas there were training camps in the past, it was pretty much necessary to weaken Indian control on Kashmir. These days its necessary to have them removed. But the infiltration must go on, and the IA's illegal occupation and terrorism in Kashmir must be fought... send in Pakistani regulars instead.

Strange remark.

Nothing has changed over 62 yrs nor will anything over the next 62 yrs - both on the ground & inour approach.
 
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why should i first...who is opening the fire first...
its happened always by pak army also..

Like i said keep your BR trash about Pakistan army off from Pakistan defence. Believe me you will survive longer here.

so keep peace and live long

The same stands for you guys as well.
 
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The second half of the editorial, starting off with 'Such camps were functional along the LoC in the past' essentially says that it is unclear whether any camps exist any more, and that there seems to be little incentive for the Pakistani state to either support insurgents or restart the camps.
 
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Whereas there were training camps in the past, it was pretty much necessary to weaken Indian control on Kashmir. These days its necessary to have them removed. But the infiltration must go on, and the IA's illegal occupation and terrorism in Kashmir must be fought... send in Pakistani regulars instead.

If it did not happen after 62 years I doubt it will ever happen especially now when India is at her strongest in her history both economically and military.
 
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Fact is that fundamentalists will eventually turn against the state. There is no way to control them.

If Pakistan government cares about human development, they should take away the guns and give them books.

The main problems of South Asians are ignorance and lack of education. All South Asian countries fall within the group of middle human development economies. In South Asia, attitudes toward literacy vary by social sector. The problem which is haunting many nations today in South Asia will be solved only when atleast 80 to 90% of the people are literate.
 
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The question is that are these camps (which i believe are just indian imaginations) being run by state sponsored people or are they in control of non-state actors?

If it is the latter then india should keep shut as one can also say that there are a few organizations, groups, individuals, religion-motivated idiots and political parties which also do the same and want the same thing as those imaginary camps in Pakistan do!!
 
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^If you believe that they are Indian imagination, then the rest of your post is useless. Maybe you can yourself imagine the answer :P
 
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