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Pakistan’s hopeful general election
The N is nigh

After 14 years in exile and opposition, Nawaz Sharif expects to win a third spell as prime minister
Apr 27th 2013 | ISLAMABAD AND LAHORE |From the print edition

POSTERS are up on lampposts, television advertisements blare, but only some politicians dare hold election rallies. Campaigning for Pakistan’s general elections on May 11th has so far been subdued. Threats by the Taliban, and the killing of at least 34 people, discourage public events.

Yet these polls are likely to prove historic. An elected government will, for the first time, succeed an elected predecessor that completed a full term. Despite the violence, democracy in Pakistan may be bedding down.
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A high turnout is likely, perhaps a record-breaker. Enthusiasm for a series of recent by-elections was notable. Young first-time voters look motivated. One pollster expects a rise of ten percentage points, or more, from the 44% who came out in 2008. And the election seems likely to be a fair one, with minimal meddling or rigging.

Polls put Nawaz Sharif, twice prime minister in the 1990s, comfortably ahead. Punjab is the most populous province. It is also Mr Sharif’s home, where his younger brother, Shahbaz Sharif, seeks re-election as chief minister. A survey there in February gave his Pakistan Muslim League, Nawaz, or PML (N)—or, more simply, just “N”—a whopping 59% share.

The brothers Sharif have a decent record on getting things done. In Lahore alone, a bus system set up last year was opened in January; officials nearly eradicated dengue in 2012; and Mr Sharif built a motorway to Islamabad, the capital, in the 1990s. Such tangible schemes are popular. Business likes the brothers, too.

It helps that most other parties are stumbling. A splinter from the Muslim League, known as PML (Q), has all but collapsed. It was a vehicle for General Pervez Musharraf, the general who toppled Mr Sharif as prime minister in a coup in 1999.

Now it is Mr Musharraf’s turn to suffer, as his return from self-imposed exile becomes a fiasco. He arrived to lacklustre effect in March. Courts barred him as unsuitable to contest any election. Then he was arrested on April 19th over the illegal sacking of judges when he ran the country. His high-walled farmhouse on the edge of Islamabad has become his jail. Mr Sharif presumably relishes every moment.

Nationally, the ruling Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) is weak. Its five years in office were dismal; it held on only because Mr Sharif, establishing a principle of “friendly opposition”, refused to join efforts to topple it. It failed to enact economic reforms and left urban voters fuming over power cuts, rising prices and worsening violence.

Its figurehead, Asif Ali Zardari, who was propelled into office after the murder of his wife, Benazir Bhutto, is widely despised as corrupt, isolated and ineffective. In any case, as the country’s president, he is barred from campaigning. Thus the PPP is in effect leaderless: its chairman is his 24-year-old son, who is said to be too fearful of assassination to meet any voters.

Yet the PPP will not be wiped out. It may get some 60 seats, out of 272, almost all from Sindh province. Rural voters are loyal; an anti-poverty scheme named after Bhutto gives 1,000 rupees ($10) a month to poor households.

That leaves only one big potential obstacle for Mr Sharif: the emerging, populist force of Imran Khan, a charismatic ex-captain of Pakistan’s cricket team, who is adored by many, especially urban, young voters. Mr Khan talks of a “tsunami” washing away the old political parties—along with corruption, violence and misrule. A nonentity in the previous election, he now looks strong in parts of urban Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa in the north-west.

He has advantages. He is uncorrupt, a taxpayer and his party alone practises internal democracy. Almost uniquely, Mr Khan holds big public rallies, as he did this week, because the Taliban (seeing him as soft on their cause) have let it be known they will not attack. The army is keen on fragmented party politics, which keeps civilians weak, and so welcomes new political actors. That also helps to explain the brief but intense flourish of Tahir ul Qadri, who marched on Islamabad in January, calling for cleaner party candidates.

But Mr Khan’s prospects are unclear. He disavows alliances with either the PPP or Mr Sharif’s League, so refuses “seat adjustment” deals in which two friendly parties agree not to split their vote against a stronger third opponent. Barring an unexpected sort of tidal wave, therefore, he will struggle to turn popularity into elected MPs. Most political analysts see him winning only a few more than 30 seats.

So Mr Sharif will probably be back, perhaps supported by a Karachi-based party, the Muttahida Qaumi Movement, MQM. Wisely, he is trying to use all his maturity and moderation to reassure the men in uniform. Much as he might be tempted to lash out at the army in revenge for the coup 14 years ago—say, by having Mr Musharraf humiliated—he needs first to encourage stability. (He also needs to strike a deal with the IMF quickly, to avoid a balance-of-payments crisis.)

Mr Sharif says he would not meddle in another crucial transition: General Ashfaq Kayani, the army’s chief of staff, is to retire in November. He says he would accept the most senior general eligible for the job. Yet other clashes may loom, for example over who runs foreign and security policy, on mending relations with India, or the excessive share of public spending grabbed by the armed forces.

Mr Sharif will influence assorted legislators when they pick a replacement for Mr Zardari, who steps down as head of state in September. And he will have an interest in who becomes chief justice, after the long-serving incumbent, Iftikhar Chaudhry—an activist in the extreme—retires in December. The elections mark just the start of a year of striking political change for Pakistan.


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when was the last time mainstream economists predicted something successfully? ask me, im one of them lol

our models do not account for Tsunamis. we only predict wave motions when the sea is at peace :P
 
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The brothers Sharif have a decent record on getting things done. In Lahore alone, a bus system set up last year was opened in January; officials nearly eradicated dengue in 2012; and Mr Sharif built a motorway to Islamabad, the capital, in the 1990s. Such tangible schemes are popular. Business likes the brothers, too.

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It's 2013 and the Sharifs are still basking in the glory days of that motorway. Typical PPP-style thinking of living in the past. No wonder PTI has been thundering on into Punjab.
And the bus system was the only thing they could mention since the Sasti Roti scheme turned out be another dent for PML(N).

It helps that most other parties are stumbling. A splinter from the Muslim League, known as PML (Q), has all but collapsed. It was a vehicle for General Pervez Musharraf, the general who toppled Mr Sharif as prime minister in a coup in 1999.

Funny to see PML(Q) being called a splinter while the PML(N) itself is a break-away group, formed under Zia's supervision. And remind me who put Musharraf in that capacity in the first place?

Nationally, the ruling Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) is weak. Its five years in office were dismal; it held on only because Mr Sharif, establishing a principle of “friendly opposition”, refused to join efforts to topple it. It failed to enact economic reforms and left urban voters fuming over power cuts, rising prices and worsening violence.

Mr. Sharif's friendly opposition is the reason the PPP-regime managed to tyrannize Pakistan. Yet it has been quoted as a wonderful act of sacrifice from PML(N).

That leaves only one big potential obstacle for Mr Sharif: the emerging, populist force of Imran Khan, a charismatic ex-captain of Pakistan’s cricket team, who is adored by many, especially urban, young voters. Mr Khan talks of a “tsunami” washing away the old political parties—along with corruption, violence and misrule. A nonentity in the previous election, he now looks strong in parts of urban Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa in the north-west.

He has advantages. He is uncorrupt, a taxpayer and his party alone practises internal democracy. Almost uniquely, Mr Khan holds big public rallies, as he did this week, because the Taliban (seeing him as soft on their cause) have let it be known they will not attack. The army is keen on fragmented party politics, which keeps civilians weak, and so welcomes new political actors. That also helps to explain the brief but intense flourish of Tahir ul Qadri, who marched on Islamabad in January, calling for cleaner party candidates.
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Now whose fault is it that the other parties are too scared to come out in the open. In fact, PML(N)'s old alliances with hard-liners and banned groups should have made things easy for them so why are they are still scared ??? Are they worried about "Aasteen kay saanp" ??? :omghaha:

And please, TuQ's role has been blown out of proportion. By the time he went home with that lollipop agreement, the crowd had become visibly shrunken.
 
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and btw i wonder y didnt 'Economist' mention the 'Economy'?? punjab's economy has experienced the lowest growth rate amongst all provinces during the last 5 years and no mention of this?? :/ weird, no?

very much an article written by a supporter of PML-N. 'From the print edition: Asia'
 
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Why is a british mouthpiece predicting the victory of a western puppet so surprising?
 
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What a biased article...you won't get a biased like this even in the Urdu media within Pakistan!!!
 
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i didn't read the article because i know its all BS in there. First it was 10 seats with in few days is came to 30.This weekend it will go to 50.Next week to 100 and then they will say PTI will clean sweep it on may 11.We know it already you liars.
 
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But Mr Khan’s prospects are unclear. He disavows alliances with either the PPP or Mr Sharif’s League, so refuses “seat adjustment” deals in which two friendly parties agree not to split their vote against a stronger third opponent. Barring an unexpected sort of tidal wave, therefore, he will struggle to turn popularity into elected MPs. Most political analysts see him winning only a few more than 30 seats.

This is a million dollar piece, summing an ocean in a teacup.......So, Its evident to everyone now how much foolhardy actually ik is.......assuming to run a country just like an NGO:hitwall:

Yesterday, he rant......."PTI Haaar Bhee Gayee tu Sab say baree Jamaat hogee"

Koeeee iss Bhuddho ko btaye....If (God Forbids) PTI emerge as single largest party in NA than how come its lost the election?

2ndly If in that scenario PTI planning to avoids forming a coalition government than Its actually forcing Pakistan into another anarchy and being to chicken against raw obligations.:coffee:

Voting PTI is wastage.......IK still in incubeter.......he needs time to mature so does his supporters!!
 
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This is a million dollar piece, summing an ocean in a teacup.......So, Its evident to everyone now how much foolhardy actually ik is.......assuming to run a country just like an NGO:hitwall:

Yesterday, he rant......."PTI Haaar Bhee Gayee tu Sab say baree Jamaat hogee"

Koeeee iss Bhuddho ko btaye....If (God Forbids) PTI emerge as single largest party in NA than how come its lost the election?

2ndly If in that scenario PTI planning to avoids forming a coalition government than Its actually forcing Pakistan into another anarchy and being to chicken against raw obligations.:coffee:

Voting PTI is wastage.......IK still in incubeter.......he needs time to mature so does his supporters!!


Refusing seat adjustments with PML(N) does not mean the end of the world. Relax.
PTI is going forward on principles, unlike other parties who call others qaatil and then call them allies. Then there's PML(N) who followed Maulana's footsteps of friendly opposition.
 
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Its funny...I have seen the trend...OVER-WHELMING majority of educated people I know are with PTI...while people from my village, or college dropouts are with N-league....

Funny thing is : One of my far relative, Mian Imtiaz, is standing on N-league's ticket on Rahim Yar Khan :omghaha: I know, more than anyone else, that what kind of illiterate, visionless, backward party is n-league..

Since this forum has educated people in it, over-whelming majority are with PTI...No wonder these illiterate, 2-takkay k patwaaris are supporting n-league...
 
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