East Pakistani Soldiers during Operation Searchlight

[khair_ctg]

i don't agree with this exceptionalism that bengalis were angelic victims. i think bengalis were very misguided and bad politics got the better of them. such politics from the bengalis began the first fault lines (so i will agree that bengalis were victims but only here). then although placing all the blame squarely on punjabis would be tantamount to assigning a lot of responsibility to the punjabis, my perception of punjabis is that (generally speaking) socio-culturally they were and are not much different from bengalis. the result was that this prompted the punjabis/other groups raise their guards, to the delight of all agents that were anti-greater pakistan

 

[PlanetSoldier]

You misunderstood me , there .

I meant to say that Mujib and Bhutto weren't the only ones responsible for the separation , there were others - both military and political leaders who sowed discord .

Agree...there were other hands but there were some true grounds too which opportunists exploited.

 

[eastwatch]

Fall of Dhaka on 16 December 1971/Maheen Usmani - YouTube

 

[Syed Naved]

Ms. Hasina Mujib the daughter of Sheikh Mujib Ur Rehman has now confessed that Sheikh Mujib had planned to secede from Pakistan in 1969–two years before the March 23rd “Military Action” against Bharati (aka Indian) saboteurs and their misguided supporters in Dhaka. General Mankeshaw wrote a book in which has claimed that he recruited 80,000 Hindus to create the Mukti Bahni.
These terrorists were dressed up in Pakistan Army uniform and raped and pillaged Bengalis. They also were dressed up as civilians carrying out acts of sabotage against the civil and military government of Pakistan.

Now my question is : Today Awami League & Some of our country men love to say for every thing Pakistan responsible , but what is this now? Truth is League followers don't have gut to face the truth and say to India that they want to bring Indian War Criminal under trial too.Because They Are Indian Agent.

 

[Sukapha]

Ms. Hasina Mujib the daughter of Sheikh Mujib Ur Rehman has now confessed that Sheikh Mujib had planned to secede from Pakistan in 1969–two years before the March 23rd “Military Action” against Bharati (aka Indian) saboteurs and their misguided supporters in Dhaka. General Mankeshaw wrote a book in which has claimed that he recruited 80,000 Hindus to create the Mukti Bahni.
These terrorists were dressed up in Pakistan Army uniform and raped and pillaged Bengalis. They also were dressed up as civilians carrying out acts of sabotage against the civil and military government of Pakistan.

Now my question is : Today Awami League & Some of our country men love to say for every thing Pakistan responsible , but what is this now? Truth is League followers don't have gut to face the truth and say to India that they want to bring Indian War Criminal under trial too.Because They Are Indian Agent.

Blah blah blah....waste of time. The whole Bengali nation rose up against the Pak Army after the massacres. Read a few primary documents and not your history books.

 

[Syed Naved]

Blah blah blah....waste of time. The whole Bengali nation rose up against the Pak Army after the massacres. Read a few primary documents and not your history books.

We know history , at least better than you . After the massacre, what take place or not , we know , but before the massacre in Pakistan army uniform , what your army did , that also need to be exposed . And yes , Pakistan Army not did that way that you are trying to say .

In the name of Pak army , most of the Bihari did atrocities , than in Pak army uniform Indian army did atrocities, rape Bengali women and defame Pak fauj; and in some case by Pak force as in every war killing took place,that type of things take place . But many Pak battalion like Balooch etc protect civilians .

Many battalion never even kill Muktis . It is India , who did propaganda in media .

Becasue If today we were united , it would create problem for India . And India did it as a revenge of 65 war. because on 65 we win , and you loose . And it was very Humiliation to you guys.

 

[eastwatch]

True . Mr.Bhutto despite being a power hungry dimwit later proved to be somehow good in managing the country , something at which I believe Mujib failed . The politicians were not different in their mentality , but in their approach .

When Mujib came out to BD from the Pakistani prison he found he had lost much of his executive power during his absence when the war was going. His absolute power was divided among many others.

BD was a war ravaged country. Mujib started the National/State Bank with $34 donated by probably Tajuddin Ahmed. Promoted Bangali Secretaries had little experience in running the administration. Agriculture was in ruin. People remained hungry and destitute. US was not helping with food and India/Russia had no surplus food.

The then PM Tajuddin was a socialist who made friendship with Cuba. Fidel Castro visited Dhaka at the invitation from the BD govt. This alerted the USA. No US/European help was forthcoming as a result.

Sk. Mujib himself was a great orator, but was not a good administrator himself. So, he was unable to make correct decision for the country. People became anti-Mujib because of many reasons like this. But, it is just untrue that people hated him because he separated BD from Pakistan. It is a great lie and do not believe in the JI lies.

 

[animelive]

When Mujib came out to BD from the Pakistani prison he found he had lost much of his executive power during his absence when the war was going. His absolute power was divided among many others.

BD was a war ravaged country. Mujib started the National/State Bank with $34 donated by probably Tajuddin Ahmed. Promoted Bangali Secretaries had little experience in running the administration. Agriculture was in ruin. People remained hungry and destitute. US was not helping with food and India/Russia had no surplus food.

The then PM Tajuddin was a socialist who made friendship with Cuba. Fidel Castro visited Dhaka at the invitation from the BD govt. This alerted the USA. No US/European help was forthcoming as a result.

Sk. Mujib himself was a great orator, but was not a good administrator himself. So, he was unable to make correct decision for the country. People became anti-Mujib because of many reasons like this. But, it is just untrue that people hated him because he separated BD from Pakistan. It is a great lie and do not believe in the JI lies.

wow man, you just ruined the whole post with the last line JI rant.

 

[Syed Naved]

Muzib Was A Traitor But Nothing More . Who Not Only Betray Pakistan But Also Bangladeshis , When He Declare B.A.K.S.A.L / HIS GREAT DICTATORSHIP ERA. New generation may unaware of it , but Hasina in her this reign , show us how was it .

 

[Shaped charge]

To my Bangla Bondhus can u take back these Chakmas, these guys are a nuisance in our state n will one day lead to insurgency among local tribes or communal violence of horrific nature due to their mischiefs...

 

[eastwatch]

wow man, you just ruined the whole post with the last line JI rant.

Did I make any statement that is not compatible with the truth and reality. JI people always say there was no liberation war, it was only Indian intervention. But, the reality is Muktis fought valiantly with whatever ragtag weapons their hands could take hold of and they did not wait for those coward and unmanly AL leaders in Calcutta playing around the Theater Road and who never came within the territory of then east Pakistan, except one time in Mujib Nagar, before 16 December.

 

[sovcomflot]

We know history , at least better than you . After the massacre, what take place or not , we know , but before the massacre in Pakistan army uniform , what your army did , that also need to be exposed . And yes , Pakistan Army not did that way that you are trying to say .

In the name of Pak army , most of the Bihari did atrocities , than in Pak army uniform Indian army did atrocities, rape Bengali women and defame Pak fauj; and in some case by Pak force as in every war killing took place,that type of things take place . But many Pak battalion like Balooch etc protect civilians .

Many battalion never even kill Muktis . It is India , who did propaganda in media .

Becasue If today we were united , it would create problem for India . And India did it as a revenge of 65 war. because on 65 we win , and you loose . And it was very Humiliation to you guys.

Who taught you this? Jamaat -e -islami?

 

[animelive]

Did I make any statement that is not compatible with the truth and reality. JI people always say there was no liberation war, it was only Indian intervention. But, the reality is Muktis fought valiantly with whatever ragtag weapons their hands could take hold of and they did not wait for those coward and unmanly AL leaders in Calcutta playing around the Theater Road and who never came within the territory of then east Pakistan, except one time in Mujib Nagar, before 16 December.

explain bolded part with proper evidence. i know a few JI people and 71 is the least of their concerns.

 

[Syed Naved]

Who taught you this? Jamaat -e -islami?

Ms. Hasina Mujib the daughter of Sheikh Mujib Ur Rehman has now confessed that Sheikh Mujib had planned to secede from Pakistan in 1969–two years before the March 23rd “Military Action” against Bharati (aka Indian) saboteurs and their misguided supporters in Dhaka. General Mankeshaw wrote a book in which has claimed that he recruited 80,000 Hindus to create the Mukti Bahni. These terrorists were dressed up in Pakistan Army uniform and raped and pillaged Bengalis. They also were dressed up as civilians carrying out acts of sabotage against the civil and military government of Pakistan.

So, after her confession, JI's confession not needed. And btw, was Sam Manekshaw Rezajar lolz

 

[sovcomflot]

Ms. Hasina Mujib the daughter of Sheikh Mujib Ur Rehman has now confessed that Sheikh Mujib had planned to secede from Pakistan in 1969–two years before the March 23rd “Military Action” against Bharati (aka Indian) saboteurs and their misguided supporters in Dhaka. General Mankeshaw wrote a book in which has claimed that he recruited 80,000 Hindus to create the Mukti Bahni. These terrorists were dressed up in Pakistan Army uniform and raped and pillaged Bengalis. They also were dressed up as civilians carrying out acts of sabotage against the civil and military government of Pakistan.

So, after her confession, JI's confession not needed. And btw, was Sam Manekshaw Rezajar lolz

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