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East Pakistan loss was a Political not a Military failure, says COAS

Confederation was the way out and it was offered by ayub Im 62 but Bengal elites refused calling pakistan to leave union if they want but east will not live like a younger brother in a Confederation.
Hindu minority and uber socialists had taken over the thinking capacity. Een their religious leaderes lake bhashani were pro socialist.While on our end bhutto was dreaming of ruling the whole country by himself.. this was one of the fronts of cold war back in the day.mukti bahni was trained by kgb to kill pro west urdu speaking population.. the whole context was that bihari bureaucracy was there to enslave them.
Look when we are weak, people get advantage. No brainer.
I know what you saying. Balochistan FATA, both Punjab, Afghanistan, Naxal in (Maharashtra, MP, Orissa, Bihar), then Maoist in Naga, Tripura, Mizoram, etc and then Communists in both Bengals
(East/West).

Our region was an ideal ground for communism. We have caste based discrimination, Feudal lords, religious/sect based division etc, you named it. British were extremely afraid.

Then China got communist. NATO west got a mental breakdown. They offered Baghdad pact, CETO/CENTO etc. They were sure that if Pak get communist, India cannot be prevented from communism, pouring from east and west Pakistan. Then it will lead to Mayanmar and other Malaka state countries. It was already reaching Vietnam and Korea. Egypt, Syria, Iraq were also in communist influence. So, I know KGB role.
 
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But that debate of 34K vs 90K wasn't Bajwa's point


He clearly said that his point was that
"آج تک "قوم" نے مشرقی پاکستان میں فوج کی قربانیوں کا اعتراف نہیں کیا"


And he also said that 34K were troops rest were government officials
i.e. number could very well be 90K but 50K were bloody civilians who don't deserve any "قربانیوں کا اعتراف"


take a listen



basically he's implying that only 34K were important, rest were not because they were civilian government officials









گانے بنا بنا، انڈینز سے بحثیں کر کر، ڈیفنڈ کر کر، تھک گئے پی ڈی ایف والے
مگر یہ کہتاھے قوم نے چونتیس ھزار کی قربانیوں کا اعتراف نہیں کیا
باکی پچاس ھزار تو کیونکہ سویلین تھے، ان کو تو مائینس ھی کر دو، ان کا ذکر تھوڑی بنتا ھے


Seriously he's lost his mind
I am sure that was not what he meant but people are pissed and any comments from the top brass will be considered under the worst lenses deservingly or otherwise.
 
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Thanks for endorsing what I have said 5 - 6 years ago about 1971.

1. We had only 34,000 active + non-active forces in Bangladesh, not that ***** 90,000 ludicrous figure concept that comes from India. The rest were bureaucrats, other govt functionaries, etc.

2. Indeed 1971 was a blunder of Joker Bhutto. All that fake fictitious narrative was made by his illiterate supporters. That most unpopular who lost every single election.

3. We fought well against the massive military might and their trained terrorists aka Mukti Bahani. It was officially recognized by India's Field Marshal Gen. Manekshaw in his interview.

No doubt that many on the ground fought bravely against overwhelming odds and gave their lives and may Allah Ta'ala accept their Shahadah (Ameen).

I hate Bhutto but lets deal with facts about political involvement:

  1. Pakistan was ruled directly by the Military from 1958-1971
  2. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto became part of UN delegation in 1957 (under indirect Military rule)
  3. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto became Foreign Minister in 1963 (under direct Military rule)
  4. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto resigned in 1966 (under direct Military rule)
  5. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto contested elections in 1970 (under direct Military rule)
If Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto is indeed responsible for all which ailed 'East Pakistan' then the Military are a bunch of idiots who allowed it to happen under their watch.
 
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I hate Bhutto but lets deal with facts.

  1. Pakistan was ruled directly by the Military from 1958-1971
  2. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto became part of UN delegation in 1957 (under Military rule)
  3. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto became Foreign Minister in 1963 (under Military rule)
  4. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto resigned in 1966 (under Military rule)
  5. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto contested elections in 1970 (under Military rule)
A**holes attract A**holes :P
 
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Well, seems he forget the Ayub Khan humiliation remarks about Bengalies on an official visit to Bangladesh or oppose the majority party Awami League mandate and didn't let Mujib form the govt and send him to jail. On top killed Fatima Jinnah the PML leader.

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You keep bullshi++ing about Ayub stealing Bengalis mandate when it was Yahya Bhutto collusion and Ayub was long gone from the scene.
 
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As Dr Moeed said. There is 100 years of RSS anniversary coming. What will Modi f=do to appease his fan base? Another strike?
Nah, he will only do it to throw a life line to his fellow foot soldiers of sepoy pak army in service of western colonialism

Thanks for endorsing what I have said 5 - 6 years ago about 1971.

1. We had only 34,000 active + non-active forces in Bangladesh, not that ***** 90,000 ludicrous figure concept that comes from India. The rest were bureaucrats, other govt functionaries, etc.

2. Indeed 1971 was a blunder of Joker Bhutto. All that fake fictitious narrative was made by his illiterate supporters. That most unpopular who lost every single election.

3. We fought well against the massive military might and their trained terrorists aka Mukti Bahani. It was officially recognized by India's Field Marshal Gen. Manekshaw in his interview.
Bhutto wouldn't have been able to do jack $hit without his brother in faith and patron in chief Yahya's support.
 
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You keep bullshi++ing about Ayub stealing Bengalis mandate when it was Yahya Bhutto collusion and Ayub was long gone from the scene.
You keep your garbage to yourself ....ask any Bengali in US...he will tell you a ?lot more than that ..or our media is lying too..? ..don t understand the obsession with this killer Ayub Khan.
 
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I think he was accomplice... but i think not Ayub but bhutto and low level politicians etc coined that..

Military operates by following a 'Chain of Command'. Ultimately it was the Martial Law Administrator who was responsible but would you not admit that the entire responsibility of 1971 cannot be put at the doorstep of Politicians.
  1. 1971 was a Political Failure (Government was run since 1958) by Military
  2. 1971 was a Military corruption Failure (see Hamoodur-Rahman Commission Report)
  3. 1971 was a Military Strategic & Planning Failure (defense of East is through the West then why were the forces in West Pakistan not mobilized in time?)
  4. 1971 was an Intelligence Failure
  5. Post-1971 there has been a lack of Accountability Failure! The Military (Zia, Musharraf, Kiyani, Bajwa) couldn't even conduct an independent inquiry let alone blaming and punishing those responsible.

I agree and admit that our Politicians are scum of the Earth
 
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East Pak was lost because the hearts and minds of people were lost there with the ruling establishment which includes the generals. Today we are on a similar praecipe where majority hearts and minds in western pak are against current regime. Big difference this time is this majority don't have a foreign power to help them bring about a change.
 
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You keep your garbage to yourself ....ask any Bengali in US...he will tell you a ?lot more than that ..or our media is lying too..?
Yeah Ayub even after leaving his post in '69 was somehow responsible for Yahya's and Bhutto's actions in '71 around operation search light and post '71 election denial of awami league's mandate.

Only a brain washed partisan can believe such fantasies and keep pushing these lies.
 
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Yeah Ayub even after leaving his post in '69 was somehow responsible for Yahya's and Bhutto's actions in '71 around operation search light and post '71 election denial of awami league's mandate.

Only a brain washed partisan can believe such fantasies and keep pushing these lies.
Check Amir Mateen show and listen Mohammad Malik remarks...may clear your history bugs ..


What they never tell us about Ayub Khan's regime

Murtaza Haider Published November 1, 2016




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Pakistanis are a forgiving lot. They are even more forgiving of the dead. Civil and military dictators, fascists, hate-spewing clerics, and vigilantes end up with disciples, and at times, even with a shrine.
Military dictators are slightly more fortunate. An army of repute defenders, in uniform and civvies, continues singing the praise of the golden era when the ‘General Sahib’ once ruled.
They reminisce about the days when honey and milk flowed in ravines and open drains, and when the economic growth rivalled that of South Korea or some other Asian tiger or cat.
October 27 marked the 58th anniversary of the Martial Law imposed by General Ayub Khan.
Given that we have the advantage of hindsight, we can revisit the 'golden days' to test the veracity of the claims of bounty and harmony that are usually retailed, yet seldom verified.
Political leaders of all stripes and tenor must envy the good repute General Ayub Khan continues to enjoy almost 50 years after he reluctantly relinquished power.
The popular discourse about the Ayub era (1958 - 1969) is that of economic growth, prosperity, and the growing stature of Pakistan on the world stage.
However, the economic realities of the time are much less glamorous, if not dismal.
An objective review of General Ayub Khan’s policies and actions suggests that his primary motive was to sustain and prolong his rule as his regime sowed the seed, and generously watered the plant, for Bangladesh's separation that came years later.
He empowered the religious fundamentalists as he sought their support against Fatima Jinnah.
The economic growth, which many cite as his singular achievement, promoted the income inequalities resulting in the rise of the 20 influential families who controlled the nation's resources and amassed ill-gotten wealth, leaving the rest poor, hungry, and resentful.
Also read: Exit stage left: the movement against Ayub Khan

A Chief Martial Law Administrator is born​

General Ayub's dramatic ascent to power in 1958 came after a decade of political turmoil.
From 1947 to 1958, Pakistan was governed by four heads of state and seven prime ministers.
The political jostling for power incapacitated the then president, General Iskander Mirza, who suspended the parliament and appointed a new cabinet with General Ayub Khan as the new prime minister.
However, within days, Ayub Khan turned the tables on General Mirza forcing him into a pensioned exile in London.
General Ayub Khan declared himself the president of Pakistan on October 27 while he simultaneously held the office of the Chief Martial Law Administrator. In the General's words:
"Major General Iskander Mirza, lately President of Pakistan, has relinquished his office of President and has handed over all powers to me. Therefore, I have this night assumed the office of President and have taken upon myself the exercise of the said powers and all other powers appertaining thereto."

Too illiterate to vote, but literate enough to create a homeland​

From the time he assumed control, General Ayub resented the public and the democratic process.
For him, the public was too illiterate and poor to be trusted with adult franchise.
So he created an electorate ("basic democracy") of a few thousand of whom 95% elected the General as their leader.
That the same illiterate and poor people of Pakistan were wise enough to have voted earlier with their hearts, minds, and feet to create a new country that elevated the same General to the office of the army chief was not sufficient for them to have earned the General's trust for adult franchise.
General Ayub Khan held the politicians squarely responsible for the "chaotic internal situation" and accused them of being willing to barter the country "for personal gains".
He was keen to imprison leading politicians in East and West Pakistan.
The military dictators that came after him have held a similar contempt for politicians.

The economics of inequality​

Shahid Javed Burki, a former World Bank economist, rightly identified the fundamental disconnect between the public and the Ayub Junta that celebrated 10-years of being in power by highlighting GDP growth and other inflated macroeconomic indicators.
The general public, however, cared less of the aggregate statistics as they struggled without much success against price inflation and spatial income disparities.
Burki points out that the so-called economic growth was rooted in income inequality, which worsened over time between regions and among people with the growth in the macroeconomy.
The result was evident: half of the industrial wealth accrued to Chinioties in Punjab and the immigrant Memons, Bohras, and Khojas.
At the same time, General Ayub opened the door to foreign experts who were ignorant of, and alien to, the political economy of Pakistan.
Yet they came armed with policies that might have worked elsewhere but were ill-suited for Pakistan's challenges.
General Ayub's economic prowess need not be discounted entirely. His penchant for central planning is evident in the second five-year plan.
The inflow of foreign capital, at twice the rate of that of India, sparked growth in industries that supported consumer goods.
One must also review what drove the growth and what industrial sectors blossomed as a result.
A close look at what transpired reveals that there was nothing organic about the growth.
It was primarily driven by foreign aid, the same way General Musharraf's rule was buttressed by American aid after 9/11.
By December 1961, foreign aid was more than twice the size of foreign loans. With the second five-year plan in 1964, foreign aid was responsible for 40% of the total investment.
And that's not all. Foreign aid covered 66% of the cost of imports. One must give credit where it's due, and it's mainly foreign aid.
Read next: Religious orthodoxy during Ayub regime
Despite the foreign investment as aid and credit, and the aggressive public works programme pursued by the regime to generate new jobs, unemployment persisted, and even worsened during the second five year plan from 5.5 million man-years in 1960-1 to 5.8 million man-years in 1964-5 in East Pakistan.
The regime allocated twice as much for atomic energy than it did for technical training.
What about the rapid industrialisation undertook by the Ayub regime using foreign aid? As soon as the industries started generating revenue, the regime disposed of them to private investors.
During 1964-65, the loans and advances by the government to the private sector were twice the size of the direct investments by the industry.
However, profit-making units that should have been set up by the industry in the first place should have not been handed over to the industrialists as an unearned reward.
Those who defend General Ayub Khan’s reign also hold false memories of peace and harmony. Do such claims withstand empirical scrutiny?
Raunaq Jahangir, quoted by Burki, demonstrated that violence, especially in Bangladesh (East Pakistan), increased tremendously during the Ayub era.
If there was peace and tranquility in the sixties, why did the unrest in 1968-69 reach such a feverish pitch?
It was not the economic growth, but the increasing concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a few that irked the have-nots and fuelled violence.
A critical report by none other than Dr Mehboobul Haq, the then Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission, revealed that a coterie of just 20 families controlled two-thirds of the industry and three-fourth of the banking.
Pakistan's poet laureate, Habib Jalib, could not ignore the injustice. His poetry galvanised the public as he recited poems at gatherings where tens-of-thousands heard him denounce the 20 nouveau riche, who became even richer at the cost of keeping millions poor. Jalib wrote:
Biis gharanay hein abaad / Or karorron hein nashaad / Sadar Ayub Zindabad.
Related: Land reforms in Pakistan

General Ayub’s global fan base​

There was no shortage of the high-profile admirers. From de Gaulle of France to President Johnson of the United States, Western leaders were singing praise for the economic growth in Pakistan.
Even Robert McNamara, the then World Bank president, proclaimed that Pakistan under General Ayub was “one of the greatest successes of development in the world”.
However, experts were quick to point out that de Gaulle, Johnson, McNamara and others focused solely on growth and ignored the distribution of wealth resulting in income inequalities that sowed the seeds of discontent, violence, and ultimately caused the splitting of East and West Pakistan.

The Bangladesh debacle​

An oft-cited criticism of the former Prime Minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto (1971 - 77) is that he engineered Bangladesh's succession to avoid sharing with, or worse losing power to, the demographically dominant East Pakistan.
However, it was General Ayub's years of preferred treatment of West Pakistan that irked East Pakistanis, who couldn't ignore the sustained rebukes when General Ayub placed three of the largest legacy projects, i.e., the construction of the new capital (Islamabad) and the two large hydel projects (Mangla and Tarbela) in West Pakistan.
Furthermore, General Ayub never kept a confidante from East Pakistan as all the King’s men belonged to West Pakistan.

The government of best intentions and worst implementation​

Land reforms were one of the cornerstones of General Ayub's socio-political reengineering that restricted the maximum size of land holdings to encourage a more equitable distribution of land and resources among the landless peasantry.
The land reforms, however, achieved little in limiting the size of land holdings and limiting the political clout of the landed gentry. Instead, power and wealth concentrated further in the hands of the notorious 20 families.
The Ayub regime decided to limit land holdings to 500 acres of cultivated land, 1,000 acres of dry land, and 150 acres of orchards. Over 6,000 landowners exceeded the newly defined ceilings, owning 7.5 million acres of land.
The landowners though outsmarted the regime by transferring the land in advance to relatives so that ownership remained with the landed gentry. Thus, not much land was transferred to landless peasants.

Ayub Khan and Islam​

Unlike General Ziaul Haq (1977-1988), who spent 11 years of his dictatorial rule to revert Pakistan back to a 7th-century medieval utopia, General Ayub was more of a modernist who was wary of the attempts to convert Pakistan into a desert kingdom of a bygone era.
While addressing a seminary he articulated his views:
"This I consider a great disservice to Islam, that such a noble religion should be represented as inimical to progress … In fact, it is great injustice to both life and religion to impose on twentieth century man the condition that he must go back several centuries in order to prove his bonafides as a true Muslim."
General Ayub's most significant and long lasting contribution is the promulgation of Muslim Family Laws Ordinance in 1961 that empowered women, especially in the matters of marriage and divorce.
Though the commission that drafted the recommendations was constituted in 1954, the Ayub regime took steps to implement the laws empowering women.
Before the family laws were enacted, neither marriages or divorces were required to be registered with the state.
This created severe hardships for divorced women, some of whom eventually remarried.
Their former husbands could, and some even did out of malice, accuse them of adultery since the women lacked proof of divorce from the first husband.
The new laws also required men who desired a second wife to seek formal consent from the first wife.
In summary, the acts and ordinances introduced by the Ayub regime discouraged polygyny, “protected the rights of wives and granted the rights of inheritance to grandchildren.”
On the same topic: A secular man?
Despite his belief and the desire to modernise the society, General Ayub was quick to give into religious orthodoxy as long as the policy about-turns prolonged his control over power.
Sarfraz Husain Ansari documented the policy flip-flops as the General reinstated the restrictive clauses of the Objective Resolution in 1963, which had been expunged from the Constitution earlier.
Furthermore, while the 1962 Constitution used “Pakistan” as the official name, the General yielded to the religious forces and changed the country's name to “Islamic Republic of Pakistan” in December 1963.
Finally, the Advisory Council of Islamic Ideology, which does not miss an opportunity to embarrass Pakistanis by its archaic, and frequently misogynist, interpretations of Islam, is also a gift from General Ayub that keeps on giving.

Ab raaj karey gi khalq-i-khuda​

Regardless of how efficient a military regime becomes, in the end, the protagonist has to surrender to the political process in the theatre of governance.
General Ayub was no exception.
Despite his misgivings about politicians and the political process, he joined a political party, the Conventional Muslim League, a version of which has always been available to Pakistan's military rulers as they struggle to transition out of the uniform.
General Ayub knew that joining the political party was no win for him. He explained the reason he acceded to a party was because he had “failed to play this game in accordance with my rules and so I have to play in accordance with their rules — and the rules demand that I belong to somebody, otherwise who is going to belong to me. So it is simple. It is an admission of defeat on my part anyway.”
One wonders if Generals Zia and Musharraf, who followed in General Ayub's footsteps, ever knew or understood his words.
At the end of the day, the right to rule belongs to the people, and it reverts to them regardless, for eternal victory belongs to them, and not to civilian or military dictators.
If it were not for his health issues, would General Ayub still consider abdicating voluntarily? In January 1968, he caught a viral infection followed by pneumonia that developed into a pulmonary embolism.
By the fall of 1968, his health deteriorated even more.
At the same time, the opposition by Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto gained strength. On February 21, 1969, General Ayub threw in the towel declaring he would not seek re-election in 1970. By March, General Yahya Khan took control as the Chief Martial Law Administrator.
On the same theme: Objectives Resolution: the root of religious orthodoxy
The repeated failed experiments of military rule in Pakistan make it abundantly clear that unlike other developing countries in the Middle East and in Southeast Asia where military dictators have enjoyed tremendous longevity, Pakistanis love independence and will not tolerate for long attempts to curb their political freedoms.
At the very onset of General Ayub's Martial Law, Justice M. R. Kiyani, the then Chief Justice of the West Pakistan High Court, articulated the very aspirations of freedom and independence of the people as he addressed the Bar Association in Karachi:
"There are quite a few thousand men who'd rather have the freedom of speech than a new pair of clothes and it is these who form a nation, not the office hunters, the license hunters, even the tillers of soil and drawers of water."
Just two days later, the Chief Justice was forced to tender an apology for offending army officers.
Pakistan, despite its struggles with rule of law, violence, and crumbling infrastructure, is stronger today because no one can dare force a Chief Justice to apologise for upholding the Constitution and the principles of democracy.
 
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