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Dutch far-right party says it will ban Mosques, Quran

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1)Why the working class should have a "genuine grievance against muslims"?

I Have already explained.

European elites ,mostly for sake of gulf money, have tolerated behaviour of Muslims which would have got anyone else being handed long prison sentences.

They suppress freedom of expression of neo-Nazis, but not of Islamic hate preachers. This has given an impression of appeasement of Islamic radicals, and a sense that application of law is stacked against European natives. These kind of sentiments affects working class more than anyone else.

Some countries like UK do not prosecute even heinous crimes like rape and pedophilia when done by Muslims as they feared of being labelled as Islamophobic. This has led to Muslims operating grooming gangs all over UK which have raped tens of thousands of girls, exclusively from working class. This has led to a feeling that Muslims are oppressing them in collusion with their elites.

When politicians say : "Islam is religion of peace" just after an terrorist attack, it is seen as adding salt to the wounds and has diametrically opposite effect of what politicians wanted.

In France Muslims go on car torching rampage, and French government does not seem to be able to do anything against them.

For Sweden ,less said better it is.

Apart from that immigration (Muslim or otherwise) take away work opportunities from working class Europeans and increase cost of living. Hence there is an economic angle to this grievance too.

These kind of things that have accumulated overtime which has coalesced into lurch to right in Europe.

2)What makes an islamist preacher a hate preacher?

Islamist preacher is a hate preacher. If he is not, no one else is.

So apart from supplying Rafael's to France your also going to supply advanced indian military ordnance

Is the indian plan to sell to only France or will you supply the highly sort after indian weaponry across Europe

This could be a good opportunity for india to sell Tejas, Insas and Arjun to the Europeans im sure during the next European genocide they would be in the market for questionable indian junk


Yes sure. We could/would also supply Indian military ordnance, if it is profitable to us. Rafale was just an convenient example.

India (and China along with USA),being capable to defend itself, is very well placed to take economic advantage of any major military conflict in which it is not a participant. It could supply everything from bullets to aircraft to steels to foodgrains.
 
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Europe has few more decades at best, they can ban all they want
 
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Hmf. Everybody is obsessed with islam in these days. In the 90s very few Europeans knew details about islam. For them it was just another "third-world" religion like Boudhism or hinduism. Now all people have opinions about it. The fact that the west shows so much fear of islam will cause the quite opposite effect. Right now you polarize western public(not muslims...)regarding islamic religion and that will not end well
 
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Europeans seem to be oblivious of concept of moderation.

They were and are biggest supporter of Jihadi terrorism (even though indirectly because of their PC culture), and provide asylum to people whom even Sharia countries consider too radical (Abu Hamza is an example). They have gone from Nazism straight to fundamentalist cultural marxism/liberalism.

There is a very high chance that when pendulum swings again, it would go all the way to gas chambers.


You spoke out my mind.

Europe has this tendency to do a see-saw very quickly. I wonder why they are unable to get the moderation in their political thoughts.
 
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The great part of this thread was when Indians said they will provide Rafale to France.:lol:
 
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The two situations are not comparable.

In case of Europe, their working class has genuine grievance against Muslims, and strangely most of them are not due to Muslims, but due to European elite and their unequal treatment of a working class European and a Muslim immigrant.

In Europe neo-Nazis are thrown into jail for propaganda crime while Islamic hate preachers are never censured. This engenders a sense of unfairness among Europeans.

In Europe, Police doe not act against organize pedophile gangs for fear of Islamophobia and these mostly Muslim gangs have exploited tens of thousands of working class children due to this pusillanimity of Police.

Whole forum could be filled by such examples.These are small incidents which add up resentment among working class Europeans against Muslims.
The working class in all countries are usually gullible...the working class hated the Jews too....we have Mexicans here who get blamed for special treatment from the government....In Bangladesh Hindus are thought to get special treatment from the government....if the entire world was actually so minority friendly then we wouldn't have any problems.
 
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Did the Jews do it in a subtle way?


Most Europeans don't want a total ban on mosques or the wholesale expulsion of muslims but the current political elite,the mainstream one,doesn't offer a middle solution so people are forced to look to the extreme right for one.I mean,was it all that hard to not allow an entire horde from the ME,Central Asia,Africa to waltz through the borders ? Was it hard to krank down on extremist preachers ? No.Yet,nobody cares....

It's simple really...if you hate snackbar,just like that hussein fellow does in here,on the web.....5 years in jail.But no,tolerance all around from the authorities....enough now.
 
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If that shit happened in UK I would leg out before with all of my cash, I ain't leaving my cash for some chav to buy him lifetime supply of booze and fags. .:lol:
 
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