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Drone bombing correlation to suicide attacks
May 19, 2010 by The Editors
Pakistan Patriot has analyzed the number of Drone attacks on Pakistan versus the Suicide bombings in Pakistan. There seems to be a direct correlation between the attacks in FATA and the Suicide attacks in Pakistan.
The situation is complicated when other external forces like the Bharati (aka Indian) enter the picture and use the drone attacks as justification for helping, arming and supporting terror organizations like the TTP.
The CIAs site The Long War has published some astonishing statistics of drone strikes on Pakistan. It promises to update the site after the latest strike. The Long War Journal - Charts on US Strikes in Pakistan
The Pakistanis count their dead differently.
The author of the Pakistani site Pakistan Body Count says: Whether it is a Suicide Bombing or an Attack by a Flying Drone, For Me its the Same, A Pakistani Got Killed
The website (Pakistan Body Count ::: www.pakistanbodycount.org) provides a complete history and time-line of Suicide Bombing and Drone attacks in Pakistan. Data is collected from media reports, hospitals, and internet. All data is publicly available and there is no classified data here. This is an effort to show the world the intensity of Suicide Bombing and Drone attacks in Pakistan.
Suicide Bombing Victims
Dead = 3607, Injured = 9189, Total = 12796 and Counting
Drone Attacks Victims
Dead = 1296, Injured = 445, Total = 1741 and Counting
Success Rate of Drone Attacks against Al-Qaeeda ~ 2.5%
The drone attacks have been a bone of contention between the Pakistanis and the Americans. The Pakistani president, prime minister, and all major leaders have condemned the drone bombings. The red line has been drawn at actual US troops crossing into Pakistani territory. US officials claim that they have tacit approval of the Pakistani leadership.
Read one American analysis, and youll be told that U.S. drones havent killed a single civilian in Pakistan this year. A look through one pair of local eyes yields a very different result, however. According to the website Pakistan Body Count, Americas drones have only hit a single terrorist in 2010, while slaying dozens and dozens of innocents.
Both Pakistan Body Count, run by computer science professor Zeeshan-ul-Hassan Usmani, and the Long War Journal, operated by former G.I. Bill Roggio, rely on the same data: local news accounts. But the two sites use startlingly different methodologies to reach their results. Roggio only counts civilian deaths if theyre specifically mentioned in the news stories. Usmani figures that all reported Taliban are, in fact, civilians. Its a questionable assumption, all-but-discounting the possibility of drones hitting home-grown militants. Nevertheless, the site provides a look at how the U.S. drone strikes are perceived in the country where the Hellfire missiles land.
Literally the Arabic word Talib means student, so Taliban means students. Almost 100% of the population of [these] areas go to the local Madarasah for their basic education, he tells Danger Room. Therefore we can surely categorize every single habitant of these areas as Talibans.
Usmani, an American-educated researcher now working at Ghulam Ishaq Khan Institute in Pakistans Northwest Frontier Province, also uses his site to decry the terrorist attacks in his country. Whether it is a suicide bombing or an attack by a flying drone, for me its the same, a Pakistani got killed, Pakistan Body Count declares on its home page.
But Usmani doesnt see a connection between the remotely-piloted airstrikes and the explosive vests. I highly doubt that U.S. drones are doing anything to stop suicide bombing, as it is evident from the data, the number of suicide bombing is almost directly proportional to the drones attacks. More drones, and we have more SB [suicide bomb] attack in our country, he e-mails.
Usmani says his site gets about 15,000 visitors a week. His tallies of innocent deaths are wildly different from the estimates produced by the Long War Journal and the New America Foundation. But Usmanis dark analysis is similar to other Pakistani reports. According to The News of Pakistan, US drones killed 123 civilians [and] three al-Qaeda men in January. Dawns account is even more morbid: For each Al Qaeda and Taliban terrorist killed by US drones, 140 innocent Pakistanis also had to die.
Last month, Faisal Shahzad attempted to bomb Times Square allegedly as some sort of revenge for drone attacks in Pakistan. That caused the political class in Washington to finally starting wondering whether the unmanned strikes might be driving Pakistani public opinion towards the militants. Read sites like Usmans, and its clear that the resentment has been building for a long time. Pakistani Site: Drones Only Killed One Terrorist in 2010 (If You Dont Count Taliban)By Noah Shachtman May 18, 2010 | 11:07 am |
May 19, 2010 by The Editors
Pakistan Patriot has analyzed the number of Drone attacks on Pakistan versus the Suicide bombings in Pakistan. There seems to be a direct correlation between the attacks in FATA and the Suicide attacks in Pakistan.
The situation is complicated when other external forces like the Bharati (aka Indian) enter the picture and use the drone attacks as justification for helping, arming and supporting terror organizations like the TTP.
The CIAs site The Long War has published some astonishing statistics of drone strikes on Pakistan. It promises to update the site after the latest strike. The Long War Journal - Charts on US Strikes in Pakistan
The Pakistanis count their dead differently.
The author of the Pakistani site Pakistan Body Count says: Whether it is a Suicide Bombing or an Attack by a Flying Drone, For Me its the Same, A Pakistani Got Killed
The website (Pakistan Body Count ::: www.pakistanbodycount.org) provides a complete history and time-line of Suicide Bombing and Drone attacks in Pakistan. Data is collected from media reports, hospitals, and internet. All data is publicly available and there is no classified data here. This is an effort to show the world the intensity of Suicide Bombing and Drone attacks in Pakistan.
Suicide Bombing Victims
Dead = 3607, Injured = 9189, Total = 12796 and Counting
Drone Attacks Victims
Dead = 1296, Injured = 445, Total = 1741 and Counting
Success Rate of Drone Attacks against Al-Qaeeda ~ 2.5%
The drone attacks have been a bone of contention between the Pakistanis and the Americans. The Pakistani president, prime minister, and all major leaders have condemned the drone bombings. The red line has been drawn at actual US troops crossing into Pakistani territory. US officials claim that they have tacit approval of the Pakistani leadership.
Read one American analysis, and youll be told that U.S. drones havent killed a single civilian in Pakistan this year. A look through one pair of local eyes yields a very different result, however. According to the website Pakistan Body Count, Americas drones have only hit a single terrorist in 2010, while slaying dozens and dozens of innocents.
Both Pakistan Body Count, run by computer science professor Zeeshan-ul-Hassan Usmani, and the Long War Journal, operated by former G.I. Bill Roggio, rely on the same data: local news accounts. But the two sites use startlingly different methodologies to reach their results. Roggio only counts civilian deaths if theyre specifically mentioned in the news stories. Usmani figures that all reported Taliban are, in fact, civilians. Its a questionable assumption, all-but-discounting the possibility of drones hitting home-grown militants. Nevertheless, the site provides a look at how the U.S. drone strikes are perceived in the country where the Hellfire missiles land.
Literally the Arabic word Talib means student, so Taliban means students. Almost 100% of the population of [these] areas go to the local Madarasah for their basic education, he tells Danger Room. Therefore we can surely categorize every single habitant of these areas as Talibans.
Usmani, an American-educated researcher now working at Ghulam Ishaq Khan Institute in Pakistans Northwest Frontier Province, also uses his site to decry the terrorist attacks in his country. Whether it is a suicide bombing or an attack by a flying drone, for me its the same, a Pakistani got killed, Pakistan Body Count declares on its home page.
But Usmani doesnt see a connection between the remotely-piloted airstrikes and the explosive vests. I highly doubt that U.S. drones are doing anything to stop suicide bombing, as it is evident from the data, the number of suicide bombing is almost directly proportional to the drones attacks. More drones, and we have more SB [suicide bomb] attack
Usmani says his site gets about 15,000 visitors a week. His tallies of innocent deaths are wildly different from the estimates produced by the Long War Journal and the New America Foundation. But Usmanis dark analysis is similar to other Pakistani reports. According to The News of Pakistan, US drones killed 123 civilians [and] three al-Qaeda men in January. Dawns account is even more morbid: For each Al Qaeda and Taliban terrorist killed by US drones, 140 innocent Pakistanis also had to die.
Last month, Faisal Shahzad attempted to bomb Times Square allegedly as some sort of revenge for drone attacks in Pakistan. That caused the political class in Washington to finally starting wondering whether the unmanned strikes might be driving Pakistani public opinion towards the militants. Read sites like Usmans, and its clear that the resentment has been building for a long time. Pakistani Site: Drones Only Killed One Terrorist in 2010 (If You Dont Count Taliban)By Noah Shachtman May 18, 2010 | 11:07 am |