Doraiswami keen to push Covaxin as Covishield exports disrupted

[Surya 1]

Is that per month?

Yes. 6 to 7 crore per month.

I would not trust indian vaccine.... absolutely no....

There has never been a single agreement that india has delivered on.... BAL idiots must learn and move a away from these hindutva scums whose hate of muslims permeates all their decisions.

Yes, India gave 2 million vaccines to BD without having any agreement. So naturally the agreement is not honored as agreement was not there.

 

[Michael Corleone]

2. BD has young and slim population that are at less risk than in Western countries with older and fatter population. Look at those dying outside Indian hospitals and it is mainly the fat. BD population is actually less fat than India's as India's middle class is proportionately larger than BD's

If it depended on being thin and young I guess india wouldn’t suffer so much deaths either

 

[mb444]

Yes. 6 to 7 crore per month.


Yes, India gave 2 million vaccines to BD without having any agreement. So naturally the agreement is honored.

Indias vaccine policy is a self serving publicity stunt.....

Ultimately hindutva country such as yours where all your policies and outlook is geared towards proactively harming and liquidating muslims and bangladeshis.... there is no room whatsoever for positive engagement...

 

[deepfried]

guys its not upto us, do u think govt is brave enough to say no to indian offer?
i dont think so. they will do everything to delay bongovax but will do everything for india.
just like last year's rapid test incident.

what we can do is, not to inoculate ourselves with it

 

[bluesky]

Guys, please read the text below on Covaxin vaccine of India. In the present context of dire necessity, BD should procure vaccines from all reliable sources. However, this vaccine must be certified by WHO before BD again puts money for Indian medicine.

COVAXIN - India's First Indigenous Covid-19 Vaccine | Bharat Biotech

COVAXINÂ, India's first indigenous COVID vaccine is developed by the corona vaccine manufacturer Bharat Biotech. It is an inactivated COVID-19 vaccine and human trials are about to commence across India.

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COVAXIN® - India's First Indigenous COVID-19 Vaccine

COVAXIN®, India's indigenous COVID-19 vaccine by Bharat Biotech is developed in collaboration with the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) - National Institute of Virology (NIV).

The indigenous, inactivated vaccine is developed and manufactured in Bharat Biotech's BSL-3 (Bio-Safety Level 3) high containment facility.

The vaccine is developed using Whole-Virion Inactivated Vero Cell derived platform technology. Inactivated vaccines do not replicate and are therefore unlikely to revert and cause pathological effects. They contain dead virus, incapable of infecting people but still able to instruct the immune system to mount a defensive reaction against an infection.

Why develop Inactivated Vaccine? Conventionally, inactivated vaccines have been around for decades. Numerous vaccines for diseases such as Seasonal Influenza, Polio, Pertussis, Rabies, and Japanese Encephalitis use the same technology to develop inactivated vaccines with a safe track record of >300 million doses of supplies to date. It is the well-established, and time-tested platform in the world of vaccine technology.

 

[leonblack08]

Yes, India gave 2 million vaccines to BD without having any agreement. So naturally the agreement is honored.

Your govt was boasting about those "gifts" and trying to score political points over China at the time.

We didn't ask for your handouts, we paid for the goods and we want them delivered. Simple trade.

It doesn't matter whether Covaxin has a higher efficacy rate than that of AstraZeneca/ Covishield.

The problem is- Millions of people have been given the first dose of AZ and are now awaiting a second dose of AZ. They need their second dose of AZ. They cannot be injected with a dose of another vaccine.

 

[UKBengali]

Yes, India gave 2 million vaccines to BD without having any agreement. So naturally the agreement is honored.

You cannot really blame India for stopping exports as the country is in a dire emergency right now.
The virus is well under control in BD and so a 2 month break in deliveries will make little difference there.
Better to use vaccines to save thousands of lives in India than virtually none in BD.

We should remember that India has gifted 3.2 million vaccines to BD free of charge when you add in the 1.2 million doses that Modi gave for free when he visited BD back in March. In contrast Pakistan has jabbed just 3 million of their larger population with the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine.

It says a lot when BD has got far more vaccine from India compared to what Pakistan has got from China.

I am sure that as estimated by the Serum Institute of India that deliveries of the AstraZeneca vaccine will resume in later May/early June - that should be around the time when the most vulnerable 20% of India's population get at least one jab and with it a high degree of protection.

 

[Surya 1]

The problem is- Millions of people have been given the first dose of AZ and are now awaiting a second dose of AZ. They need their second dose of AZ. They cannot be injected with a dose of another vaccine.

Yes, this is true but even with one dosage, the morality rate in case of corona is just 0.4% against 3 to 4 % in other case (In case corona happens) . With two dosages, it reduces to 0.3%. Had there been no issue of Raw material, We would have delivered the vaccines.

 

[UKBengali]

If it depended on being thin and young I guess india wouldn’t suffer so much deaths either

Look at the people in India who are dying outside the hospitals. Nearly all are fat!

I am sure that like the UK the young, slim and healthy do not get severe disease from the virus in BD - in the UK less than 1 % of deaths and maybe 5% of hospital admissions are from this group. This is a statistical fact.

India has maybe 20% of middle-class now that are leading almost Western-lifestyles. BD maybe is at 10% due to being behind in per capita till now.

Yes, this is true.

@leonblack08

As long as supplies are not interrupted for more than 2 months this does not matter that much. SII estimates that it will restart deliveries to BD end of this month/early June which seems realistic.

AstraZeneca recommendation is to give the 2 doses 12 weeks apart and the high immunity from the single dose is sustained for at least 12 weeks. The great thing about AstraZeneca vaccine is that you get nearly all the protection from the first dose, unlike others like Pfizer and SinoPharm.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Look at the people in India who are dying outside the hospitals. Nearly all are fat!

I am sure that like the UK the young, slim and healthy do not get severe disease from the virus in BD - in the UK less than 1 % of deaths and maybe 5% of hospital admissions are from this group. This is a statistical fact.

India has maybe 20% of middle-class now that are leading almost Western-lifestyles. BD maybe is at 10% due to being behind in per capita till now.



@leonblack08

As long as supplies are not interrupted for more than 2 months this does not matter that much. SII estimates that it will restart deliveries to BD end of this month/early June which seems realistic.

AstraZeneca recommendation is to give the 2 doses 12 weeks apart and the high immunity from the single dose is sustained for at least 12 weeks. The great thing about AstraZeneca vaccine is that you get nearly all the protection from the first dose, unlike others like Pfizer and SinoPharm.

Lots of boomers dying for sure but I’ve seen young fit athletic guy die from the virus or post recovery from secondary complications
we took it more seriously compared to india where people were chasing police and doctors through the streets, swimming in cow piss and bathing in cow dung to protect themselves from the virus

 

[mb444]

You cannot really blame India for stopping exports as the country is in a dire emergency right now.
The virus is well under control in BD and so a 2 month break in deliveries will make little difference there.
Better to use vaccines to save thousands of lives in India than virtually none in BD.

We should remember that India has gifted 3.2 million vaccines to BD free of charge when you add in the 1.2 million doses that Modi gave for free when he visited BD back in March. In contrast Pakistan has jabbed just 3 million of their larger population with the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine.

It says a lot when BD has got far more vaccine from India compared to what Pakistan has got from China.

I am sure that as estimated by the Serum Institute of India that deliveries of the AstraZeneca vaccine will resume in later May/early June - that should be around the time when the most vulnerable 20% of India's population get at least one jab and with it a high degree of protection.

Deal is a deal, it is completely irrelevant what is happening in india. You seem to care much more about the welfare of indian citizen than you do Bangladeshis.

I do not understand where you get such a rosey view of the current situation in BD. Its healthcare system is rudimentary at best, its medical stats are incomplete and its ability to deal with pandemic does not inspire much confidence. Why are you commenting on Pakistan? What has relative numbers in india or pakistan has anything to do with BD.

BD stands alone, its only goal should be to protect its citizen and its citizen alone.


What is happening in india will likely to be repeated and with greater impact in BD fairly soon.

BD needs to immediately sue SII for non performance. Relying on India is suicide.

It must not enter into any further engagement with india. It needs to get own production started asap.... covid vaccines and subsequent boosters would be necessary for years to come.

Yes, this is true but even with one dosage, the morality rate in case of corona is just 0.4% against 3 to 4 % in other case (In case corona happens) . With two dosages, it reduces to 0.3%. Had there been no issue of Raw material, We would have delivered the vaccines.

You should not have sold things you can not deliver and you should return funds you have effectively stolen under false pretenses.

 

[UKBengali]

What is happening in india will likely to be repeated and with greater impact in BD fairly soon.

What evidence is there for this assertion you make?

Daily positive cases have more than halved in BD over the last 3 weeks and deaths have also started to come down in the last 3 weeks.

Modi is still allowing mass gatherings in India while thousands are suffocating to death trying to get into hospitals there. BD is not allowing this with a far less worse situation.

What is the point of suing India? Better this export embargo accelerates BD self-sufficiency and this has already happened with agreement for local production of Sputnik and go-ahead for human trials of BD homegrown vaccine.

Without the export embargo the above would not be happening. Modi has done BD a favour as it has forced AL to make BD more self-sufficient.

Rather than criticising Modi, BD nationalists should be thanking him.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Doraiswami keen to push Covaxin as Covishield exports disrupted
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• Published at 02:59 pm April 30th, 2021

File photo of Covid19 vaccine candidate, set for human trialsTwitter

The high commissioner said besides the Covishield vaccine from Serum, the alternative that they have consistently been offering to export is Covaxin, India's homegrown Covid-19 vaccine

Indian High Commissioner in Dhaka Vikram Doraiswami is keen to remind his hosts that there is another option of a Covid-19 vaccine available from his country as the vaccine supply from the Serum Institute of India got disrupted amid high domestic demand.

The high commissioner said besides the Covishield vaccine from Serum, the alternative that they have consistently been offering to export is Covaxin, which they offered not only for trial here in Bangladesh at their own cost but also for co-production.

Covaxin is the brand name of India’s "indigenous vaccine," so called for also being developed on Indian soil by Hyderabad-based Bharat Biotech in collaboration with the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) - National Institute of Virology (NIV).

Doraiswami reiterated that for Covaxin, there is also an offer to co-produce, which remains on the table.

He also said Dhaka can choose to be flexible, so the choice is not either/or. It can choose to order both.

“Bangladesh can choose all the options offered to it. It can choose some. But this is Bangladesh’s sovereign decision, not an Indian decision,” he said, while addressing a symposium titled "Bangladesh-India Relations: Prognosis for the Future" which premiered on Thursday night on Facebook.

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Dr Iftekhar Ahmed Chowdhury, renowned scholar and diplomat and former adviser on foreign affairs to the last caretaker government, chaired the session. Chairman of Cosmos Foundation Enayetullah Khan delivered the opening remarks.

It was the latest instalment in Cosmos Foundation’s Ambassador Lecture Series, in which the envoys of various countries stationed in Dhaka are invited to deliver a keynote, before engaging with a high-level expert panel on bilateral ties between Bangladesh and the country they represent.

Former ambassador Tariq A Karim, Professor C Raja Mohan, Professor Imtiaz Ahmed, Pinak Ranjan Chakravarty, Dr Debapriya Bhattacharya, Maj Gen (retd) ANM Muniruzzaman, Dr Fahmida Khatun, Brig Gen (retd) Shahedul Anam Khan and former ambassador Krishnan Srinivasan spoke at the event as the panel of discussants, drawn from both sides of the border.

Bangladesh has so far received seven million doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, manufactured under licence by Serum Institute and sold under the brand name Covishield. It had signed a deal with local pharma giant Beximco Pharmaceuticals to supply 30 million doses over a period of six months, starting from January.

The supply of the rest of the vaccine doses as agreed remains suspended due to current high demand in India.

Bangladesh also received 3.3 million doses of Covishield as a bilateral partnership gift. Overall, the 10.3 million doses are the largest amount sent by India to any country.

The Indian envoy said Serum signed the agreement directly with the Health Ministry of Bangladesh through Beximco on the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. “It’s not a government of India-facilitated agreement," he added.

Bharat Biotech and icddr,b entered an agreement in December 2020 for the Phase III clinical trials of Covaxin in Bangladesh, but the actual trials are still awaiting approval.

Covaxin has shown efficacy of over 80%, comparable to that of Covishield.

An array of experts from Bangladesh and India were brought together for the online symposium hosted by the Cosmos Foundation, philanthropic arm of the Cosmos Group, to assess the state of relations between the two countries and identify the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead in the effort to take it forward.

India’s tough second wave

The high commissioner said they have done their best to provide vaccines to Bangladesh, to all its neighbours and also to other countries to which they have legally and commercially binding obligations, including the UK.

On availability of vaccines, the Indian envoy said there is a major crisis underway in India at the current moment

“We’re doing our best within that current situation to make available vaccines and increase the production of vaccines so that we’ve the capacity to provide not only to our population who’re now unable to get the first or second doses of vaccine but also provide it to whom SII has bilateral commercial commitment,” he said.

India has been trying to meet its internal demand as well as obligations made under contractual agreements by Indian companies to produce more of the vaccines being manufactured at the Serum Institute of India in Pune and by other prominent vaccines manufacturers.

Doraiswami keen to push Covaxin as Covishield exports disrupted

The high commissioner said besides the Covishield vaccine from Serum, the alternative that they have consistently been offering to export is Covaxin, India's homegrown Covid-19 vaccine

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Corner shop mentality from Indians. We promised you product A but can't deliver. Instead of a refund, here's product B.

Honestly do these gujjis think everyone else is so gullible?

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@DalalErMaNodi

A bhai,

Covaxin is actually a good product. Notwithstanding the early bad rap it got (mainly because of its association with Feku Maharaj). Even Luqmanbhai (who you know hates Feku) has expressed the opinion. Unless BD has a better product, it should consider it.

Regards

 

[mb444]

What evidence is there for this assertion you make?

Daily positive cases have more than halved in BD over the last 3 weeks and deaths have also started to come down in the last 3 weeks.

Modi is still allowing mass gatherings in India while thousands are suffocating to death trying to get into hospitals there. BD is not allowing this with a far less worse situation.

What is the point of suing India? Better this export embargo accelerates BD self-sufficiency and this has already happened with agreement for local production of Sputnik and go-ahead for human trials of BD homegrown vaccine.

Without the export embargo the above would not be happening. Modi has done BD a favour as it has forced AL to make BD more self-sufficient.

Rather than criticising Modi, BD nationalists should be thanking him.

BD with its poverty, huge population, non indigenous capability to produce vaccine and weak administrative capacity will not be able to vaccinate enough of its population and keep it vaccinated to achieve herd immunity levels probably ever. We will always be vulnarable to a covid spike and it is only a matter of time as social distancing is simply not possible in BD.

Vast majority of Bangladesh is currently suffering after a year of economic downturn. In the slums of BD cities people are down to having one meals a day having lost their jobs.

I do not think you fully understand how precarious the situation is in BD and how much more vulnarable we are to further shocks.

BAL has undertaken precisely no action to prepare for the inevitable and its medical facility is operating on overdrive currenty. BD will be overwhelmed not in matter of weeks or days but hours when the next spike happens.

Corner shop mentality from Indians. We promised you product A but can't deliver. Instead of a refund, here's product B.

Honestly do these gujjis think everyone else is so gullible?

Thievery and skullduggery is built into hindutva genetic makeup.