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Don't panic: Pranab seeks calm after S&P downgrade India

7 reasons why India's economy won't collapse as feared - Business News - IBNLive

Myth 1: The credit bubble

In terms of peak five-year increase in the overall domestic credit/GDP ratio across emerging market (EM) economies, India sits near the bottom of the pack, far removed from the "true-blue" credit bubble countries in eastern Europe.

In terms of peak cumulative change in aggregate loan/deposit ratios (defined as total domestic credit divided by broad money liabilities), India is simply light-years away from the kind of numbers that normally point to trouble.

Myth 2: The investment collapse

India does have a slowing economy, and real investment spending has shrunk. Still, India is investing between 30 per cent and 35 per cent of its GDP – the second highest investment ratio in the emerging universe, after China. No collapse in domestic savings either.

Myth 3: Disappearing growth

If you look at the investment and production figures on a sequential rather than a y/y basis, you will find that levels have already recovered visibly over the past few months, even if we are not talking about a massive recovery here.

Myth 4: Out-of-control-inflation

India's CPI-based inflation situation is far worse compared to other emerging markets. But in terms of GDP Deflator* inflation, there's virtually no disparity at all between Indian inflation and the emerging market average. Part of the reason why GDP deflator inflation run a couple of percentage points higher than CPI inflation in most EM countries, but a couple of percentage points lower in India, could be the poor shape of Indian CPI statistics. We're not saying "don't watch CPI" – after all, the RBI certainly does, but what we are saying is that there are better measures of price pressures in the economy that don't tell nearly as onerous a story.

*GDP Deflator: (nominal GDP divided by real GDP) multiplied by 100

Myth 5: Cost of capital crunch

While RBI has had to adjust reserve requirements to ensure continued liquidity in the system, that's about it. While short-term rates have been rising as a result of policy rate hikes, long term funding rates have been unchanged in the last couple of years.

Myth 6: Mountain of dollar borrowing

The oft-heard fear that Indian corporates and banks are "loaded to the gills" with foreign borrowing and are now facing a severe repayment crunch, is overdone. Look at where India sits on the chart compared to other EM countries. Enough said.

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Myth 7: Rupee sell-off

There was no "rupee" sell-off last year. Rather, there was a sell-off across all high-yield currencies like the Mexican peso, the Brazilian real, the Hungarian forint, the Polish zloty, the South African rand. The rupee fared almost exactly the same as its comparator basket.
 
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moody follows soon as i expected.

Such a retarded opposition we have stalling all the FDI and economic reforms ..

Double standards shown by BJP and trinamool ..
They only know is to blabber sh*t and do nothing
 
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"In economics, a bailout is an act of loaning or giving capital to an entity...."



Now continue copy pasting from MoneyCentral and pretending you understand what you are talking about.


You did just that here ! Copy pasting ! At least I gave a link. You copy pasted from Wikipedia ! :P

Now read this you noob

Bank loan to India’s RCOM benefits China, says analyst

http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabi...-Indias-RCOM-benefits-China-says-analyst.aspx

Yeah Right! RComn was rescued by chinese banks ! :lol:
 
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I will present a wild theory. I think GOI in collision with these bodies could have intently asked to reduce the credit rating so to pressure their allies and opposition, get the reforms done in a brisker pace. Sure the West would collude if it means opening up of our retail sector.

I have a similar doubt about this, The congress must have manipulated the agencies i.e. to give a warning in case India does not adopt reforms then we will downgrade the ratings.
 
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as all ponzi schemes will eventually collapse, the indian ponzi scheme of debt, deficits and overconsumption based on a service based economy will collapse.

you cannot run massive trade and budget deficits forever, especially if your currency is not a reserve currency.
indan debt is already 70% of gdp and growing fast.
its currency is collapsing as capital is leaving india as investors lose confidence in the indian economy.
indian economy is not based on production of goods, its based on overconsumption by going into debt to consume imported goods.

this system can go only for so long until your debts reach a certain limit. for india to grow, india has to go into debt, if india cannot go into debt anymore due to too much debt accumulated, then india has to cut back, and since the indian growth is dependent on going into debt constantly, if you cannot go into debt anymore, indian growth falls and eventually india will go into recession as it cuts back on budget and trade deficits.

the entire indian economy is a running ponzi scheme.
each year, indian debt is growing more than its growth in gdp. this increases the debt to gdp.
this means india is growing poorer as its gdp goes up. debt has to be paid, either through a default or inflation. inflation destroys a country's wealth and middle class.

if india is going into debt for productive uses, which can be repaid in the future through exports, then thats fine. but india goes into debt to consume depreciating consumer goods being imported from china.

as i said, india will face a MASSIVE fiscal crisis eventually which will lead to a MAJOR economic crisis causing a severe reccession and a significant contraction in the indian gdp.

this S&P warning should be taken very seriously.
indian growth is dependent on debt, if you cannot go into debt due to higher rates or anyother reason, indian economy collapses.
indian economy is built on quicksand.
 
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You did just that here ! Copy pasting ! At least I gave a link. You copy pasted from Wikipedia ! :P

Now read this you noob

Bank loan to India’s RCOM benefits China, says analyst

Bank loan to India

Yeah Right! RComn was rescued by chinese banks ! :lol:

Wasn't just rescued once.. it was rescued Twice.

The first loan was for $1.9 billion from China Development Bank and the second one was $1.2 Billion, again from China Development Bank. Doesn't take much to see that China Development Bank is only protecting its investment. A child can tell you that.
 
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Wasn't just rescued once.. it was rescued Twice.

The first loan was for $1.9 billion from China Development Bank and the second one was $1.2 Billion, again from China Development Bank and both were the largest ever given out to an Indian company. And it doesn't take much to see that China Development Bank is only protecting its investment. A child can tell you that.



You mean you are a child ? RCom took loan from chinese bank for furthur investments, not to protect itself from bankruptcy . Any grownup who knows economics wil tell you that.
 
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You mean you are a child ? RCom took loan from chinese bank for furthur investments, not to protect itself from bankruptcy . Any grownup who knows economics wil tell you that.

Rcomm is India's second largest mobile provider after Airtel, the troll won't understand that.
 
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You mean you are a child ? RCom took loan from chinese bank for furthur investments, not to protect itself from bankruptcy . Any grownup who knows economics wil tell you that.

Anil Ambani’s Reliance Communications has been saved from a potential financing crunch by a surprise US$1.1bn loan from a group of Chinese state-owned banks... putting an end to fears of a potentially devastating default.
Chinese lenders bail out RComm | Top News | IFRe

The "surprised loan" of $1.18 Billion was a bailout package to save the company from "devastating default" as China Development Bank is salvaging its earlier loan of $1.9 Billion.

You are clearly in your infancy as can't read. *YAWN*


Rcomm is India's second largest mobile provider after Airtel, the troll won't understand that.
The only one trolling here is you.
 
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Anil Ambani’s Reliance Communications has been saved from a potential financing crunch by a surprise US$1.1bn loan from a group of Chinese state-owned banks... putting an end to fears of a potentially devastating default.
Chinese lenders bail out RComm | Top News | IFRe

The "surprised loan" of $1.18 Billion was a bailout package to save the company from "devastating default" as China Development Bank is salvaging its earlier loan of $1.9 Billion.

You are clearly in your infancy as can't read. *YAWN*

Don't let IndoCarib read your post. :cheesy:

Rcomm is India's second largest mobile provider after Airtel, the troll won't understand that.

Doesn't that make it worse? That your second largest mobile provider needed a bailout from your worst enemy?
 
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Anil Ambani’s Reliance Communications has been saved from a potential financing crunch by a surprise US$1.1bn loan from a group of Chinese state-owned banks... putting an end to fears of a potentially devastating default.
Chinese lenders bail out RComm | Top News | IFRe

The "surprised loan" of $1.18 Billion was a bailout package to save the company from "devastating default" as China Development Bank is salvaging its earlier loan of $1.9 Billion.

You are clearly in your infancy as can't read. *YAWN*



The only one trolling here is you.

You are quoting from one article in all your posts. There many facets to this case. Baling out is not even close !

RCom says China loan to help lower interest cost - Corporate News - livemint.com

Chinese banks to refinance RCom loans - Indian Express

"The $1.2 billion low-interest loan secured from three Chinese banks by Reliance Communications (RCOM), India’s second largest mobile operator, is "beneficial” to both sides, an analyst said yesterday.

"Keeping good relations with leading Indian enterprises like RCOM is important for Chinese banks and can help promote trade between China and India,” Xie Guozhong, an independent economist, told the Global Times yesterday."

http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabi...-Indias-RCOM-benefits-China-says-analyst.aspx

Now remove your 'red' glasses and read. IF YOU CAN !



And please let chinesedragon to read my post
 
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as all ponzi schemes will eventually collapse, the indian ponzi scheme of debt, deficits and overconsumption based on a service based economy will collapse.

you cannot run massive trade and budget deficits forever, especially if your currency is not a reserve currency.
indan debt is already 70% of gdp and growing fast.
its currency is collapsing as capital is leaving india as investors lose confidence in the indian economy.
indian economy is not based on production of goods, its based on overconsumption by going into debt to consume imported goods.

this system can go only for so long until your debts reach a certain limit. for india to grow, india has to go into debt, if india cannot go into debt anymore due to too much debt accumulated, then india has to cut back, and since the indian growth is dependent on going into debt constantly, if you cannot go into debt anymore, indian growth falls and eventually india will go into recession as it cuts back on budget and trade deficits.

the entire indian economy is a running ponzi scheme.
each year, indian debt is growing more than its growth in gdp. this increases the debt to gdp.
this means india is growing poorer as its gdp goes up. debt has to be paid, either through a default or inflation. inflation destroys a country's wealth and middle class.

if india is going into debt for productive uses, which can be repaid in the future through exports, then thats fine. but india goes into debt to consume depreciating consumer goods being imported from china.

as i said, india will face a MASSIVE fiscal crisis eventually which will lead to a MAJOR economic crisis causing a severe reccession and a significant contraction in the indian gdp.

this S&P warning should be taken very seriously.
indian growth is dependent on debt, if you cannot go into debt due to higher rates or anyother reason, indian economy collapses.
indian economy is built on quicksand.
india is done. Not even the Anglos and their allies believe india's BS anymore.

Very soon, new delhi will start to confiscate privately held gold in india to prop up the rupee. Everybody will be forced to exchange real gold for gold vouchers.

Then the revolution begins, with Maoists, Kashmiris, NE separatists and Tamil separatists all carving up india. Pakistan can move in at this point and take new delhi, because new delhi historically was an Islamic city.

The corrupt babus are already getting their Swiss bank accounts ready and going to flee the country.
 
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