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Don't get hyper, incidents like Pathankot will keep happening: Pervez Musharraf tells India

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Sadly, the cost of a ordinary citizens life in India and Pakistan is very cheap.

Sadly political folks or People of earlier power position can give such advises easy. But then no one talks about the loss of life in both the countries.

Incidents like pathankot can happen in both nations.. and both nation can continue suffering.. That logic is flawed..

Both India and Pakistan should work to raise the value of a ordinary Citizens life.. Dont make it so cheap that terror can cost lives and still attitude is "life goes on.. its normal lets move along types...."
 
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Terrorism will thrive in india as long as they are occupying Kashmir and will increase as US leaves afghanistan, Brace yourself the winter is coming
No much of winter, but surely Indian summer round the corner...
 
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Terrorism will thrive in india as long as they are occupying Kashmir and will increase as US leaves afghanistan, Brace yourself the winter is coming

If we stop the flow of water,
You people will starve to death
So much for winter is coming
 
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India and Pakistan are neighbors so better get along. We can be like US-Canada or North Korea- South Korea. It is not tough to see which one is better.
This isn't impossible but hard enough to Initiate the peaceful resolution. Territorial disputes makes 2 neighbors hostile to each other. US-Canada don't have any Territorial Disputes so the relations are strong between these 2 countries. North Korea-South Korea have long standing cultural and territorial disputes so their animosity is also understandable.
There are also some very bright examples of states which resolved their territorial disputes with their neighbors and now they are enjoying relations based on mutual interests and common development goals in the region. Examples , Belgium-Norway , Pakistan-China and few more.
 
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I don't see this as a "sane" argument. If two states both have crime and one can trace origin of several crimes to parties in the other state, then that's grounds for action with the neighboring state, as well as at home.

No.

Grounds for action?! This isn't Gaza where you can bomb the shit out of it! it's Pakistan and it can hit back!

Ok
 
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Terrorism will thrive in india as long as they are occupying Kashmir and will increase as US leaves afghanistan, Brace yourself the winter is coming

Dont fool u r self raiders have been coming from centuries even when there was no kashmir or america that region has always been suicidal difference is now they dont have any chance with india united back then it was different with 100s princeley states
 
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Grounds for action?! This isn't Gaza where you can bomb the shit out of it! it's Pakistan and it can hit back!
The action expected is that, once prodded and presented with leading evidence, the neighboring state work to gather additional evidence to help incriminate its own nationals of its own accord and from its own records.
 
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Every word of it, actually title to the thread is misleading and i guess you didn't read the entire report......whats Musharaf has said is that both India and Pakistan are victim of extremism and India should excercise tolerence and sanity before jumping the troll wagon.......did you see how Indian media was acting while the Op was still in progress


Troll much??

Makes sense...And also he is saying another message indirectly...Terrorist group are no more in control of the Pak Gov...
Somehow i feel that anti Indian establishment in Pakistan Gov is just getting restless to see that India and Pakistan are improving their relationship...I really doubt, NS might have approved or instructed such kind of incidents to happen when India is of late responding to the good gesture taken by NS towards India...
 
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The way Musharraf used to say about RAW and ISI doing same to each other and a single entity shouldn't be pointed out is correct.

It would have been much better had pakistan and India been friends. France and Germany also became friends after all.

A lot could have been achieved by allotting funds towards medicine, education, science and technology instead of spending on tanks, aircrafts , frigates etc.

With a long painful history of disputes and the never ending mistrust, both nations are on the losing edge.

If we stop the flow of water,
You people will starve to death
So much for winter is coming
This is where the importance of Glaciers come in as well as Kashmir issue.
 
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Thanks for your wise Words Mussi chasu. May allah brings you good health. :)
 
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I think Indian government should relinquish the control over the state of Jammu and Kashmir, start refunding the taxes amassed from the citizenry. It is pretty clear irrespective of Congress or BJP, the political establishment has no clue of handling it's security. If it's not capable of securing the citizens and cannot take the real source of terrorism head on, why waste billions in the name of defense. Refund the taxpayers money, officially concede the disputed territories on account of impotency and hide in your parliament.
 
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New Delhi:Former Pakistan president Pervez Musharraf has asked India not to 'overreact' to Pathankot IAF base terror attack which claimed the lives of 7 Indian jawans.

In an interview to a Pakistani news channel, he said that both India and Pakistan were victims of extremism and that incidents like Pathankot will keep happening.

"Terrorism is prevalent in both India and Pakistan. We are also victims of the same so we should not over react to what happened in Pathankot. Yes, of course we want to control such incidents, but one should not get hyper over such incidents," he said.

Accusing India of creating pressure on Pakistan when it came to terror attacks, he said, "India's first reaction to every terrorist attack is Pakistan but India is not free of terrorism or extremism themselves. India simply can't create pressure on Pakistan when it comes to terrorism. We may be a small country but we have honour of our own."

Stating that there are 'lots of areas in India where extremism is rampant', Pakistan's former military ruler said, "India always treats terrorism as a one-sided issue and that infuriates me. They can't just bulldoze us when something happens there."

Ahead of January 15 Foreign Secretary level talks in Islamabad, India has mounted pressure on Pakistan to take action against the perpetrators of Pathankot attack. New Delhi has said that talks will depend upon Islamabad's 'prompt and decisive' action for which it has provided 'actionable intelligence'.

Comparing Prime Minister Narendra Modi's leadership with that of his former counterpart Atal Bihari Vajpayee, he said that ties between India and Pakistan had 'flourished under the latter as he was more sincere in his approach'.

"I interacted with Vajpayee sahab and at the time we had very good ties with India. It all comes down to leadership in the end. We were moving forward with him and Manmohan sahab. Unfortunately, it's not working under the leadership of Prime Minister Modi. His popularity has dampened post his loss in Delhi and Bihar," Musharraf said.

"Vajapayee and Manmohan were more sincere when it came to resolving dispute. A good leader is always flexible. Things can't work out if you are hell-bent on your own stand," Musharraf added.

He also said that there was a lot of 'disgruntlement' among the Muslim community in India since Modi came to power.

On Modi's surprise visit to Lahore last month, he said, "It was just a case of 'showmanship' and there was nothing substantial about his visit."




Don't get hyper, incidents like Pathankot will keep happening: Pervez Musharraf tells India
Didn't you get hyper Mr. Musharraf when school children were killed in Peshawar? Or you are still suffering from Good Terrorist Bad Terrorist syndrome? And you wonder why the world treats you as a Pariah state.

Terrorism will thrive in india as long as they are occupying Kashmir and will increase as US leaves afghanistan, Brace yourself the winter is coming

“ He who kills a soul unless it be (in legal punishment) for murder or for causing disorder and corruption on the earth will be as if he had killed all humankind; and he who saves a life will be as if he had saved the lives of all humankind.” ( The Qur’an, Al-Ma’idah, 5:32)

I wish you could tell this to your friends waiting to disturb India. Terrorism is not the answer, returning to Qur'an is.
 
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There is Famous Pakistani Slogan on Miya Musharraf .Dekho dekho kaun bhaga, Bhaga Bhaga Gidar bhaga”....



In this scenario here we can say ...“Dekho dekho kaun bola, ....Bola Bola Gidar Bola.
 
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Its no secret that Pak agencies and its members have been supporting terrorism against India, and its natural for India to get hyper when someone blows things up in our country and is supported by elements in next door. What did Musharaf expect, sit with our lips together?
 
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What did Musharaf expect, sit with our lips together?
Oh really? And what has India done in response? :azn:

Yeah, other than printing dossiers... that is.
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We are cowards - let's admit this fact. Then we can try and rectify things.

That attacks would happen. Instead of whining, prepare to stop them.
True.

I think Indian government should relinquish the control over the state of Jammu and Kashmir, start refunding the taxes amassed from the citizenry. It is pretty clear irrespective of Congress or BJP, the political establishment has no clue of handling it's security. If it's not capable of securing the citizens and cannot take the real source of terrorism head on, why waste billions in the name of defense. Refund the taxpayers money, officially concede the disputed territories on account of impotency and hide in your parliament.
The only reason I think India will not give up JnK is because it has glaciers.
Glaciers - rivers - transport - industry - money

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