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UK government comes close to blaming all Muslims for acts of Islamic terrorism

Lindsey German 19 January 2015. Posted in News

Opposition to war, Islamophobia and attacks on civil liberties are all connected, says Lindsey German, and we have to campaign against all three.

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UK GOVERNMENT ministers Eric Pickles and Theresa May couldn’t really make it clearer who they think is to blame for Islamic terrorism. It is the whole of the Muslim community.


Pickles, along with fellow Tory minister Lord Ahmad, has written to Muslim organisations telling them that they are not doing enough to stop extremism.

The letter has produced a surprisingly strong response from the Muslim Council of Britain, saying that Pickles is treating the community as if it is separate from mainstream British society, something they compare to far right attitudes.

In the heightened atmosphere following the terrible events in Paris with the Charlie Hebdo and kosher supermarket shootings, on the grounds of rooting out terrorism, the British government is making sure that Muslims have to constantly denounce extremists within their own midst, something that, for example, the far right never has to do when one of its number commits terrorist crimes.

Muslim communities are under threat from Islamophobia, taking the form of verbal abuse and physical attacks. The general secretary of the Finsbury Park mosque, Mohammed Kozbar, told Sky News that his mosque has seen increased attacks. ‘Most of them are nasty drawings about our prophet and our books. Some of them make death threats against our community, so it's quite frightening for our community and our mosque’.

The monitoring group Tell Mama also reports increases in attacks on Muslims.

Little of this is reported, let alone commented on, in the media. Whereas the government has announced police protection for synagogues and Jewish schools, claiming that there is a heightened threat of anti Semitic attacks, it has made no such claims about anti Muslim attacks, even though these have become increasingly common.

The contrast between the approach of Pickles and May at a memorial service for the Paris victims -- organised by the Jewish community -- and that towards the Muslim community, could not be starker.

While the Tory ministers pledged their support and solidarity to the Jewish community, holding up ‘Je suis juif’ placards and saying quite rightly that they should not feel under threat because of their culture or religion, they have not extended the same support to Muslims. It is hard to imagine Pickles holding up a placard which says ‘je suis musulman’ any time soon.

The news that the Islamophobic Pegida organisation, which has organised demonstrations in Dresden and other German cities, is planning to bring its hateful message to Britain is chilling but perhaps not such surprising news. No wonder its organisers feel confident to do so.

Missing from all this is any sense that Islamic terrorism is linked to wider events, many of them connected to the government’s calamitous war on terror. Indeed the Guardian’s Jonathan Freedland has explicitly rejected any connection, regarding it as a ‘coping mechanism’ for those living in fear at terrorism.

The fact remains however that this terrorism has grown out of all proportion since the war on terror began, and has spread from Afghanistan through to Africa and the Middle East. There are many signs that its latest stages, especially in Iraq, Syria and Libya, are promoting Islamic terror, not diminishing it.

Another fact needs spelling out: that the major racism in Europe today is against Muslims. All racism is abhorrent, and every group has the right to stand up against it. But the racist demonstrations are against Muslims, the majority of attacks are against Muslims, the clamp down on civil liberties is primarily against Muslims.

Opposition to war, Islamophobia and attacks on civil liberties was the basis on which the Stop the War Coalition was founded. None will be ended until we understand the connection, and campaign against all three.

Source: Stop the War Coalition

UK government comes close to blaming all Muslims for acts of Islamic terrorism - Stop the War Coalition
Moroccan man in France killed at home in front of wife in 'horrible Islamophobic attack' - Europe - World - The Independent
 
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Hi,

Actually it is the British govt not doing enough---. The parents of young Pakistani emigrants have have been asking for years to arrest people like Anjum Chaudhry and prosecute the.

Britain is the major recruiting ground for the Al Qaeda and isis because of the incompetence of the british govt. Terrorists and their sympathizers are given a free hand to recruit---mosques are being used by the recruiters under the tutelage of british govt.

The britis govt shuld not be blaming anyone else but themselves.
 
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UK government comes close to blaming all Muslims for acts of Islamic terrorism

Lindsey German 19 January 2015. Posted in News

Opposition to war, Islamophobia and attacks on civil liberties are all connected, says Lindsey German, and we have to campaign against all three.

View attachment 185109

UK GOVERNMENT ministers Eric Pickles and Theresa May couldn’t really make it clearer who they think is to blame for Islamic terrorism. It is the whole of the Muslim community.


Pickles, along with fellow Tory minister Lord Ahmad, has written to Muslim organisations telling them that they are not doing enough to stop extremism.

The letter has produced a surprisingly strong response from the Muslim Council of Britain, saying that Pickles is treating the community as if it is separate from mainstream British society, something they compare to far right attitudes.

In the heightened atmosphere following the terrible events in Paris with the Charlie Hebdo and kosher supermarket shootings, on the grounds of rooting out terrorism, the British government is making sure that Muslims have to constantly denounce extremists within their own midst, something that, for example, the far right never has to do when one of its number commits terrorist crimes.

Muslim communities are under threat from Islamophobia, taking the form of verbal abuse and physical attacks. The general secretary of the Finsbury Park mosque, Mohammed Kozbar, told Sky News that his mosque has seen increased attacks. ‘Most of them are nasty drawings about our prophet and our books. Some of them make death threats against our community, so it's quite frightening for our community and our mosque’.

The monitoring group Tell Mama also reports increases in attacks on Muslims.

Little of this is reported, let alone commented on, in the media. Whereas the government has announced police protection for synagogues and Jewish schools, claiming that there is a heightened threat of anti Semitic attacks, it has made no such claims about anti Muslim attacks, even though these have become increasingly common.

The contrast between the approach of Pickles and May at a memorial service for the Paris victims -- organised by the Jewish community -- and that towards the Muslim community, could not be starker.

While the Tory ministers pledged their support and solidarity to the Jewish community, holding up ‘Je suis juif’ placards and saying quite rightly that they should not feel under threat because of their culture or religion, they have not extended the same support to Muslims. It is hard to imagine Pickles holding up a placard which says ‘je suis musulman’ any time soon.

The news that the Islamophobic Pegida organisation, which has organised demonstrations in Dresden and other German cities, is planning to bring its hateful message to Britain is chilling but perhaps not such surprising news. No wonder its organisers feel confident to do so.

Missing from all this is any sense that Islamic terrorism is linked to wider events, many of them connected to the government’s calamitous war on terror. Indeed the Guardian’s Jonathan Freedland has explicitly rejected any connection, regarding it as a ‘coping mechanism’ for those living in fear at terrorism.

The fact remains however that this terrorism has grown out of all proportion since the war on terror began, and has spread from Afghanistan through to Africa and the Middle East. There are many signs that its latest stages, especially in Iraq, Syria and Libya, are promoting Islamic terror, not diminishing it.

Another fact needs spelling out: that the major racism in Europe today is against Muslims. All racism is abhorrent, and every group has the right to stand up against it. But the racist demonstrations are against Muslims, the majority of attacks are against Muslims, the clamp down on civil liberties is primarily against Muslims.

Opposition to war, Islamophobia and attacks on civil liberties was the basis on which the Stop the War Coalition was founded. None will be ended until we understand the connection, and campaign against all three.

Source: Stop the War Coalition

UK government comes close to blaming all Muslims for acts of Islamic terrorism - Stop the War Coalition
Moroccan man in France killed at home in front of wife in 'horrible Islamophobic attack' - Europe - World - The Independent

Let's go back to the dark days of 1989, and you all will see!

This is a repeat of Salman Rushdie episode, and Ayatuallah's reaction to it.

Oh wait, let's go back to 1920s for a moment

This is a repeat of Rajpal episode, and ilm deen's reaction to it.


So we'll continue to protest, issue fatwa's to murder, and then committing the murder all in thee name of our prophet who was known for his extreme forgiveness (in case of personal insults).

There is no end in sight..

Sadly.
 
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Hi,

Actually it is the British govt not doing enough---. The parents of young Pakistani emigrants have have been asking for years to arrest people like Anjum Chaudhry and prosecute the.

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Have they? When?
 
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UK government comes close to blaming all Muslims for acts of Islamic terrorism

Lindsey German 19 January 2015. Posted in News

Opposition to war, Islamophobia and attacks on civil liberties are all connected, says Lindsey German, and we have to campaign against all three.

View attachment 185109

UK GOVERNMENT ministers Eric Pickles and Theresa May couldn’t really make it clearer who they think is to blame for Islamic terrorism. It is the whole of the Muslim community.


Pickles, along with fellow Tory minister Lord Ahmad, has written to Muslim organisations telling them that they are not doing enough to stop extremism.

The letter has produced a surprisingly strong response from the Muslim Council of Britain, saying that Pickles is treating the community as if it is separate from mainstream British society, something they compare to far right attitudes.

In the heightened atmosphere following the terrible events in Paris with the Charlie Hebdo and kosher supermarket shootings, on the grounds of rooting out terrorism, the British government is making sure that Muslims have to constantly denounce extremists within their own midst, something that, for example, the far right never has to do when one of its number commits terrorist crimes.

Muslim communities are under threat from Islamophobia, taking the form of verbal abuse and physical attacks. The general secretary of the Finsbury Park mosque, Mohammed Kozbar, told Sky News that his mosque has seen increased attacks. ‘Most of them are nasty drawings about our prophet and our books. Some of them make death threats against our community, so it's quite frightening for our community and our mosque’.

The monitoring group Tell Mama also reports increases in attacks on Muslims.

Little of this is reported, let alone commented on, in the media. Whereas the government has announced police protection for synagogues and Jewish schools, claiming that there is a heightened threat of anti Semitic attacks, it has made no such claims about anti Muslim attacks, even though these have become increasingly common.

The contrast between the approach of Pickles and May at a memorial service for the Paris victims -- organised by the Jewish community -- and that towards the Muslim community, could not be starker.

While the Tory ministers pledged their support and solidarity to the Jewish community, holding up ‘Je suis juif’ placards and saying quite rightly that they should not feel under threat because of their culture or religion, they have not extended the same support to Muslims. It is hard to imagine Pickles holding up a placard which says ‘je suis musulman’ any time soon.

The news that the Islamophobic Pegida organisation, which has organised demonstrations in Dresden and other German cities, is planning to bring its hateful message to Britain is chilling but perhaps not such surprising news. No wonder its organisers feel confident to do so.

Missing from all this is any sense that Islamic terrorism is linked to wider events, many of them connected to the government’s calamitous war on terror. Indeed the Guardian’s Jonathan Freedland has explicitly rejected any connection, regarding it as a ‘coping mechanism’ for those living in fear at terrorism.

The fact remains however that this terrorism has grown out of all proportion since the war on terror began, and has spread from Afghanistan through to Africa and the Middle East. There are many signs that its latest stages, especially in Iraq, Syria and Libya, are promoting Islamic terror, not diminishing it.

Another fact needs spelling out: that the major racism in Europe today is against Muslims. All racism is abhorrent, and every group has the right to stand up against it. But the racist demonstrations are against Muslims, the majority of attacks are against Muslims, the clamp down on civil liberties is primarily against Muslims.

Opposition to war, Islamophobia and attacks on civil liberties was the basis on which the Stop the War Coalition was founded. None will be ended until we understand the connection, and campaign against all three.

Source: Stop the War Coalition

UK government comes close to blaming all Muslims for acts of Islamic terrorism - Stop the War Coalition
Moroccan man in France killed at home in front of wife in 'horrible Islamophobic attack' - Europe - World - The Independent
A total misunderstanding ..... i think they should study our religion and clear up their minds that we arent who they think we are :/
 
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A total misunderstanding ..... i think they should study our religion and clear up their minds that we arent who they think we are :/


When you have 3 robber and thief brothers in a family of 7,

What will be the reputation of the family.

Even when two from the remaining ones are heart surgeons?

Would you be willing to give rishta (hand in marriage) of your family girls into that family?
Would you call the reputation of that family "total misunderstanding"?
 
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UK government comes close to blaming all Muslims for acts of Islamic terrorism

Lindsey German 19 January 2015. Posted in News

Opposition to war, Islamophobia and attacks on civil liberties are all connected, says Lindsey German, and we have to campaign against all three.

View attachment 185109

UK GOVERNMENT ministers Eric Pickles and Theresa May couldn’t really make it clearer who they think is to blame for Islamic terrorism. It is the whole of the Muslim community.


Pickles, along with fellow Tory minister Lord Ahmad, has written to Muslim organisations telling them that they are not doing enough to stop extremism.

The letter has produced a surprisingly strong response from the Muslim Council of Britain, saying that Pickles is treating the community as if it is separate from mainstream British society, something they compare to far right attitudes.

In the heightened atmosphere following the terrible events in Paris with the Charlie Hebdo and kosher supermarket shootings, on the grounds of rooting out terrorism, the British government is making sure that Muslims have to constantly denounce extremists within their own midst, something that, for example, the far right never has to do when one of its number commits terrorist crimes.

Muslim communities are under threat from Islamophobia, taking the form of verbal abuse and physical attacks. The general secretary of the Finsbury Park mosque, Mohammed Kozbar, told Sky News that his mosque has seen increased attacks. ‘Most of them are nasty drawings about our prophet and our books. Some of them make death threats against our community, so it's quite frightening for our community and our mosque’.

The monitoring group Tell Mama also reports increases in attacks on Muslims.

Little of this is reported, let alone commented on, in the media. Whereas the government has announced police protection for synagogues and Jewish schools, claiming that there is a heightened threat of anti Semitic attacks, it has made no such claims about anti Muslim attacks, even though these have become increasingly common.

The contrast between the approach of Pickles and May at a memorial service for the Paris victims -- organised by the Jewish community -- and that towards the Muslim community, could not be starker.

While the Tory ministers pledged their support and solidarity to the Jewish community, holding up ‘Je suis juif’ placards and saying quite rightly that they should not feel under threat because of their culture or religion, they have not extended the same support to Muslims. It is hard to imagine Pickles holding up a placard which says ‘je suis musulman’ any time soon.

The news that the Islamophobic Pegida organisation, which has organised demonstrations in Dresden and other German cities, is planning to bring its hateful message to Britain is chilling but perhaps not such surprising news. No wonder its organisers feel confident to do so.

Missing from all this is any sense that Islamic terrorism is linked to wider events, many of them connected to the government’s calamitous war on terror. Indeed the Guardian’s Jonathan Freedland has explicitly rejected any connection, regarding it as a ‘coping mechanism’ for those living in fear at terrorism.

The fact remains however that this terrorism has grown out of all proportion since the war on terror began, and has spread from Afghanistan through to Africa and the Middle East. There are many signs that its latest stages, especially in Iraq, Syria and Libya, are promoting Islamic terror, not diminishing it.

Another fact needs spelling out: that the major racism in Europe today is against Muslims. All racism is abhorrent, and every group has the right to stand up against it. But the racist demonstrations are against Muslims, the majority of attacks are against Muslims, the clamp down on civil liberties is primarily against Muslims.

Opposition to war, Islamophobia and attacks on civil liberties was the basis on which the Stop the War Coalition was founded. None will be ended until we understand the connection, and campaign against all three.

Source: Stop the War Coalition

UK government comes close to blaming all Muslims for acts of Islamic terrorism - Stop the War Coalition
Moroccan man in France killed at home in front of wife in 'horrible Islamophobic attack' - Europe - World - The Independent

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When you have 3 robber and thief brothers in a family of 7,

What will be the reputation of the family.

Even when two from the remaining ones are heart surgeons?

Would you be willing to give rishta of your family girls into that family?
Would you call the reputation of that family "total misunderstanding"?
bhaee jaan aap bewakoofi ki hadd krte hein jo ke u dont realise......... we actually are not that bad citizens..... ye kaafi ghair mulki apni misunderstanding nikaal chuke hein... i hope now k UK wale b nikaal dein
 
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bhaee jaan aap bewakoofi ki hadd krte hein jo ke u dont realise......... we actually are not that bad citizens..... ye kaafi ghair mulki apni misunderstanding nikaal chuke hein... i hope now k UK wale b nikaal dein


you didn't address my points

here they are again.


When you have 3 robber and thief brothers in a family of 7,

What will be the reputation of the family.

Even when two from the remaining ones are heart surgeons?

Would you be willing to give rishta of your family girls into that family?
Would you call the reputation of that family "total misunderstanding"?
 
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bhaee jaan aap bewakoofi ki hadd krte hein jo ke u dont realise......... we actually are not that bad citizens..... ye kaafi ghair mulki apni misunderstanding nikaal chuke hein... i hope now k UK wale b nikaal dein

Sir,

What the muslims do---that is what the religion is----. If the Book ( Qura'an ) says something different----and the practices are different---then you are basically following a different religion---something that looks like islam---but it is not islam.

You and your religion are known by your actions and not by what is hidden in the book.

Please learn to agree to disagree---keep the conversation in English and show some respect.
 
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Pure idiocy and intolerance on the part of the usually tolerant will only strengthen the extremists and the facists.

I've long been barking about this now, wherever I find the platform. Europe is changing, every event is another step to normalcy of Islamophobia and general blaming of the Muslim community.

Hi,

Actually it is the British govt not doing enough---. The parents of young Pakistani emigrants have have been asking for years to arrest people like Anjum Chaudhry and prosecute the.

Count me in for that one, lots of members here have been asking for his arrest and an end to his hate speech.

Britain is the major recruiting ground for the Al Qaeda and isis because of the incompetence of the british govt. Terrorists and their sympathizers are given a free hand to recruit---mosques are being used by the recruiters under the tutelage of british govt.

The britis govt shuld not be blaming anyone else but themselves.

Some odd combo of factors has left British Muslims, specially British Pakistanis and Bengalis seriously vulnerable to poverty, crime, extremism and general backwardness.

If you compare the average man walking down the street in one of our hubs in Birmingham compared to some more affluent parts just a few miles away. You can see how easily ignorance and backwardness festers in these parts. It's endemic.

One generation of backward people raises a newer equally backward generation, that is by comparison more backward compared to an ever changing world. You have to see it first hand. It's as if all the useless people back home and all the illiterates jumped on a plane and set up ghettos here.

In London, the situation is better, but Bradford, Luron, parts of Birmingham. I can tell you, I wouldn't want to live among those people even as a Pakistani. I couldn't go a day without ranting at some poor b@stard on the street for their stupidity.

Have they? When?

I've been barking about it for as long as I've been here. A friend of mine that had a blog at his university's Islamic society wrote at least 2 articles in which he said that the man should be jailed, deported, pushed off a cliff.
 
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A total misunderstanding ..... i think they should study our religion and clear up their minds that we arent who they think we are :/

This is no solution. They think we're backwards, not because they haven't studied our religion, now they've studied and had interactions with it's glorious followers, who remove any doubt that we are indeed backwards. The solution for us is to fix ourselves and not leave it up to others to look for some good in us.

bhaee jaan aap bewakoofi ki hadd krte hein jo ke u dont realise......... we actually are not that bad citizens..... ye kaafi ghair mulki apni misunderstanding nikaal chuke hein... i hope now k UK wale b nikaal dein

Accusing others of stupidity. Tell me when a group of Nazis attacks a mosque in the west by painting Swastikas on it. Do you form your opinion of Nazis by reading Mein Kampf or by the actions you witnessed?

UK's Muslims have years and at least a generation to go before they change. That's IF they change.
 
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