niaz
There are nearly 700,000 Indian security force personnel in the occupied Kashmir to control no more than 5,000 freedom fighters.
Guys you keep increasing the number of Indian Security Forces (inclusive of IA, CRPF, BSF, ITBP, RR) deployed in Kashmir with each new post/poster. Please spare us this misinformation. The accepted levels are about 450-500 x 1000 inclusive of personnel in Border Guarding roles along LoC and LAC. So the actual numbers for CI operations is not more than 300-350 x 1000.
On this basis with 2,000 Taliban fighters, PA would require some 300,000 troops. On the other hand IMO total number of PA troops in the FATA and NWFP areas is closer to 40,000.
Yes. Total force of about 200 - 250 x 1000 should see you through. The numbers include PA, FC etc. And you have more troops (PA) coming in from Punjab sector 6 x PA Brigades or anywhere between 1.5 - 2 full fledged division! So how many more coming in? And the numbers will increase as I have been stressing they should.
Besides, IA has been fighting in the IOK for last 30 years therefore is far more experienced in mountain warefare.
Not 30 years. 20. Insurgency started in 88-89 period for the first time. Yes experience is greater in Mountain, Jungle, High Altitude and CI grids .... we have all in one there for us to train in real time ...... and those who make mistakes, never repeat them again
Let us also not forget that poorly armed Vietcong defeated the mighty US army
Correction. Apart from reverses in Tet offensive there were no major military gains by NVA. OTOH the GoA lost the will to fight. The basic determinant of victory or defeat in Insurgency is the will to fight ..... that who looses it first is defeated ....... irrespective of military situation. Vietnam also defeated the Chinese in 1979. The Chinese maid substantial gains initially but got bogged down, and that gave the birth to what we so fashionably call 'limited war'. The Chinese were fighting a total war, but to convert an embarassment into something face saving this term was for first time used.
No war is limited. Only the objectives (as decided by the political view point) may be limited. When a war is waged, it is complete or "Total" in all terms, and guided by the political objectives given and parameters set.
and USSR broke up as a result of the defeat in Afghanistan.
a fallacy. it broke up due to combination of economic and political isolation as also socio-political changes taking place in Europe (some say the Pope was the final nail) a variety of factors played into it, Afghanistan was not a reason, the economic costs certainly can be said to have contributed.
I am sorry to bring IA in this discussion, but your post has insulting "innuendos" which I could not pass without a response
Best to ignore such posts?
There are nearly 700,000 Indian security force personnel in the occupied Kashmir to control no more than 5,000 freedom fighters.
Guys you keep increasing the number of Indian Security Forces (inclusive of IA, CRPF, BSF, ITBP, RR) deployed in Kashmir with each new post/poster. Please spare us this misinformation. The accepted levels are about 450-500 x 1000 inclusive of personnel in Border Guarding roles along LoC and LAC. So the actual numbers for CI operations is not more than 300-350 x 1000.
On this basis with 2,000 Taliban fighters, PA would require some 300,000 troops. On the other hand IMO total number of PA troops in the FATA and NWFP areas is closer to 40,000.
Yes. Total force of about 200 - 250 x 1000 should see you through. The numbers include PA, FC etc. And you have more troops (PA) coming in from Punjab sector 6 x PA Brigades or anywhere between 1.5 - 2 full fledged division! So how many more coming in? And the numbers will increase as I have been stressing they should.
Besides, IA has been fighting in the IOK for last 30 years therefore is far more experienced in mountain warefare.
Not 30 years. 20. Insurgency started in 88-89 period for the first time. Yes experience is greater in Mountain, Jungle, High Altitude and CI grids .... we have all in one there for us to train in real time ...... and those who make mistakes, never repeat them again
Let us also not forget that poorly armed Vietcong defeated the mighty US army
Correction. Apart from reverses in Tet offensive there were no major military gains by NVA. OTOH the GoA lost the will to fight. The basic determinant of victory or defeat in Insurgency is the will to fight ..... that who looses it first is defeated ....... irrespective of military situation. Vietnam also defeated the Chinese in 1979. The Chinese maid substantial gains initially but got bogged down, and that gave the birth to what we so fashionably call 'limited war'. The Chinese were fighting a total war, but to convert an embarassment into something face saving this term was for first time used.
No war is limited. Only the objectives (as decided by the political view point) may be limited. When a war is waged, it is complete or "Total" in all terms, and guided by the political objectives given and parameters set.
and USSR broke up as a result of the defeat in Afghanistan.
a fallacy. it broke up due to combination of economic and political isolation as also socio-political changes taking place in Europe (some say the Pope was the final nail) a variety of factors played into it, Afghanistan was not a reason, the economic costs certainly can be said to have contributed.
I am sorry to bring IA in this discussion, but your post has insulting "innuendos" which I could not pass without a response
Best to ignore such posts?