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Does PA have these weapons/tactics which have been successfully deployed in Ukraine?
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Is there a system in the world equivalent to HIMARS?
Ukraine is getting full support to destroy itself. Its NATO & US war on Russia and Ukraine is their bitch. We have been there. We have been used but we sell ourselves very cheap.
Ukraine is getting full support to destroy itself. Its NATO & US war on Russia and Ukraine is their bitch. We have been there. We have been used but we sell ourselves very cheap.
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Looking at the broader Picture
The challenges or key variables effecting outcome in such extended conflict would be :
1- Control of Air space i.e Gaining Air Superiority
2- Attacking / Disabling the Air Defense Batteries
3- Airborne & GB Radars with EW Assets performance & coverage
4- Utilizing Stand off Weapons, Long range Cruise Missiles, Anti Ship missiles to dismantle strategic assets
5- Tactics / Tools to destroy advancing Armoured Columns
6- Protecting High Value Assets in counter offensives
7- ATGMs , Close air Support tactics
8- Effective deployment & Utilisation of UAVs in Recon, Targeting & Attack.
9- Synergy btw various forces
10- Continuous supply of Spares
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The challenges or key variables effecting outcome in such extended conflict would be :
1- Control of Air space i.e Gaining Air Superiority
2- Attacking / Disabling the Air Defense Batteries
3- Airborne & GB Radars with EW Assets performance & coverage
4- Utilizing Stand off Weapons, Long range Cruise Missiles, Anti Ship missiles to dismantle strategic assets
5- Tactics / Tools to destroy advancing Armoured Columns
6- Protecting High Value Assets in counter offensives
7- ATGMs , Close air Support tactics
8- Effective deployment & Utilisation of UAVs in Recon, Targeting & Attack.
9- Synergy btw various forces
10- Continuous supply of Spares
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Pakistan Tests Indigenous Fatah-1 Guided MLRS
On 07 January 2021, Pakistan’s ISPR announced that the Pakistan Army test-fired an indigenous MLRS – Fatah-1 – with a range of 140 km.
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Good post. You missed out the digital warfare side of things. EW systems and UAVs.Looking at the broader Picture
The challenges or key variables effecting outcome in such extended conflict would be :
1- Control of Air space i.e Gaining Air Superiority
2- Attacking / Disabling the Air Defense Batteries
3- Airborne & GB Radars with EW Assets performance & coverage
4- Utilizing Stand off Weapons, Long range Cruise Missiles, Anti Ship missiles to dismantle strategic assets
5- Tactics / Tools to destroy advancing Armoured Columns
6- Protecting High Value Assets in counter offensives
7- ATGMs , Close air Support tactics
8- Effective deployment & Utilisation of UAVs in Recon, Targeting & Attack.
9- Synergy btw various forces
10- Continuous supply of Spares
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Pakistan Tests Indigenous Fatah-1 Guided MLRS
On 07 January 2021, Pakistan’s ISPR announced that the Pakistan Army test-fired an indigenous MLRS – Fatah-1 – with a range of 140 km.
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Russia will win this war, and this time when they will enter into Berlin...
I have seen the test videos and in them it looks like a CEP of few metres while here it states 50 metres. The acronym MLRS is used while in those test videos we see GMLRS. It is guided or unguided or an export version???
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Expand on them please.
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Force Multiplier Domains.
Point No 3 EW Domain :
Electronic warfare technology targets communications, navigation and guidance systems to locate, blind and deceive the enemy.
Broadly understanding its a system of 3 systems :
a- Probing - Various forms of ntel is gathered by locating enemy electronic signals.
b- Electronic Attack - Sending Noise or jamming disables and degrades enemy systems, communications, air defense and artillery radars. Even upto Frying electronic components is achieved.
c- Spoofing - Dummy signals Confuses and deceives as a result munitions miss their targets.
A Ukrainian intelligence official called the Russian threat “pretty severe” when it comes to disrupting reconnaissance efforts and commanders’ communications with troops. Russian jamming of GPS receivers on drones that Ukraine uses to locate the enemy and direct artillery fire is particularly intense “on the line of contact,” he said.
The invisible domain was shot into fame in Subcontinent during Swift Retort as PAF DA-20 spoofed Indian fighter jets & AD Systems.
Since than Pakistan Military has expanded in Land Based EW Systems and Local Radar Systems.
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Point No 8 Unmanned Aerial Vehicles :
With Nagornokaranakh and Ukraine conflicts putting UAV domain of modern warfare in limelight even more - Shaheed 136 , TB-2s have enjoyed reasonable success.
Again the domain has to act in a system of systems for optimum results.
Tracking, Recon, identification, SATCOM,EW Mini Pods to now AESA radars, Attacking with ATGMs and CAS Anti Armour support even surpassing Attack Gunships effectiveness - the Drones are here to stay and the role would increase. Loitering munition & Swarm tech would takeover the many fancied expensive hardware easily.
Pakistan Military has a clear advantage in this field - so much so that its various arms have taken on many different assets in various roles [AZM UAV Program stalled / Abandoned/ Not upto the mark]
CH-4B, Shahpar I & II TB-2 Akinci
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To combat the EW system and the UAVs you mentioned, the expected EW Russian ground forces are as follows:
These are tailored to provide EW combat support at the tactical level, such as providing overall situational awareness in the EMS, degrading enemy command and control systems, and providing protection against precision-guided munitions (PGMs) and remote-controlled improvised explosive devices (IEDs), UAVs (Unmanned Aerial Vehicles) etc.
I am not mentioning RuAF and RN EW assets yet.
Above are the the Altaets and Zhitel systems, which are part of the inventory of the EW brigades’ REB-S battalions, and are used for jamming an aircraft’s communication and satellite navigation (GPS, Galelo, BeiDou, etc.). The Zhitel system has been used in eastern Ukraine, supposedly to impede the use of drones by suppressing GPS signals . The Altaets jamming system has also been used, seemingly on its own, in exercises.
The MT-LB is shown in left pic above while the Ural-43203 truck is shown in right pic and their functions are below:
The below system is designed first and foremost to protect soldiers and equipment from proximity-fused artillery ammunitions by making them detonate prematurely. Its called Rtut-BM, which is is able to cover and thereby protect troops in an area of up to 50 hectares for up to 6 hours.
The new mobile ground-based EW system, Palantin, supposedly specifically designed to suppress communications systems working at the operational-tactical level based on Software Defined Radio (SDR) technology. The system is also described as having a “system-forming” capability in the sense that it can tie together several jamming systems to make them work more efficiently together. The first prototype of this system was probably truck-based, but there are plans to fit the Palantin EW system on to the new Kurganets-25 infantry fighting vehicle, below.
Below are system for airborne jamming (especially jamming UAVs)
In the right pic above is the Krasukha-4S is mainly designated to suppress the airborne interception radar of fighter and interceptor types of aircraft, but also drones, reconnaissance aircraft and satellites in low earth orbit. The left pic is of The Krasukha-2O, designed to suppress primarily airborne early-warning aircraft ,such as the Boeing E-3 Sentry or the Northrop Grumman E-8 JSTAR. It is largely a more mobile and modern version of the Soviet Pelena-1 jamming system.
There are a few more Russian EW/ECCM systems which I will mention later.
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Thanks for the share.
The game of sword & shield continues.
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"At least three of Russia’s five electronic warfare brigades are engaged in Ukraine. And with more exposure to NATO-supplied radios, experienced Russian EW operators who cut their teeth in Syria are beginning to detect and degrade Ukrainian communications..."
The Fall and Rise of Russian Electronic Warfare
As the Russian invasion of Ukraine turns into a grinding slog, Russian electronic-warfare units have begun playing higher-profile roles
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Pakistan rejects reports of sending arms to Ukraine
Pakistan Thursday rejected reports of supporting Ukraine through arms, reiterating that the South Asian nation adopts a non-interference policy in military conflicts between states.A year of the...
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I know this is not the airforce thread BUT what if all the Mirage(even use F7 
} were upgraded and Used for delivering Small Diameter Bombs and rocket artillery that delivers them just like the ones Ukraine is getting!
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Again use Mirage (and F7) to deliver a huge swarm of Sensor Fuzed Munition to wipe out tank columns! Since Sensor Fuzed Munition is readily available to Pakistan. The SH15 has the sensor fuzed shell. Just need an air delivered version as well.
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Not sure what the view is behind a self propelled AA system similar to the German Gepard which has shown its effectiveness against all forms of aerial targets with incredible ease.
I think the Turkish Korkut is the suitable choice here. PA has stationary systems but once again the old T-series tanks can be used to make a SPAAG system. Now that drones are the main staple of any battlefield.
} were upgraded and Used for delivering Small Diameter Bombs and rocket artillery that delivers them just like the ones Ukraine is getting!
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Again use Mirage (and F7) to deliver a huge swarm of Sensor Fuzed Munition to wipe out tank columns! Since Sensor Fuzed Munition is readily available to Pakistan. The SH15 has the sensor fuzed shell. Just need an air delivered version as well.
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Not sure what the view is behind a self propelled AA system similar to the German Gepard which has shown its effectiveness against all forms of aerial targets with incredible ease.
I think the Turkish Korkut is the suitable choice here. PA has stationary systems but once again the old T-series tanks can be used to make a SPAAG system. Now that drones are the main staple of any battlefield.
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