Does Imran Khan want to reinstate Khilafat?

[PakSarzameen5823]

admins of PDF clearly advocating hatred against Ahmadis.

Such as? I read the thread in which you completely flipped out, and I saw no such thing.

 

[Surya 1]

If you are following Pm Imran khan on Twitter specifically & his statements generally after coming into Power then you can easily pinpoint that he is getting more & more religious in his statements, speeches. Specifically speaking,On 8th December he posted a NAAT Shareef and today he posted a lecture of dr Israr Ahmed in which he was quoting someone else-Dr of Quaid Azam- narrating the discussion took place between Quaid & his doctor but what really interesting was the part in which Quaid was presenting his views about Khilafat or ameer ul momeneen so what exactly was the purpose of IK quoting this lecture of Dr israr?
If he wanted to show the greatness of QA Jinnah then he could quote anything but why this? Was he trying to present his views about the Form of govt in Pakistan & in Muslim world?
Please do Comment either i am reading much between the lines or there is something which i am talking about.....
Your opinions are highly invited.....
@BHarwana @Imran Khan @Horus @war&peace

https://twitter.com/x/status/1073824168548937728

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That should be the next logical step for Pakistan. Islamic state and democracy are contradictory terms.

 

[hassan zohaib]

If Pakistan is under invasion then Ahmadis like other citizens of Pakistan would defend it, we did before and will do it again. I know what I said two weeks ago, I was angry at some of the admins of PDF clearly advocating hatred against Ahmadis. What more do you want to know? infact let me ask you a question, what have you done for Pakistan in your long life old man? You seem to waste a lot of time on PDF instead of trying to educate Pakistan's youth and help Pakistan come out of darkness.

I understand your game very well, I know you're a seasoned troll. My last reply regarding Ahmadis and their loyalty to Pakistan will be this, I can't change your mind so do whatever you want but I don't think we can continue this debate further.

Ahmadi volunteers being trained to be sent to Pak India border during first Kashmir war.

@Retired Troll @Jaanbaz please guys restrain yourself being sectarian... you were discussing the good points & suddenly this Khilafat even became sectarian...
Plz yr don't kill the purpose of this thread.
The best points on this thread belong to you...

 

[hassan zohaib]

Sir you compared IK with NS... and that makes you a liar.

What i can say to u sire......
Without acknowledging the history, without considering the logic, without understanding the context u just made me liar & u know this is the worst thing on PDF, kill the logic, kill the important thread.
Anyway thanks...
Please do compare the first era of NS & this era of IK. I bet if u will compare without any bias then u r gonna definitely find out a lot of similarities...
Buddy i will make thread 4 u someday on same topic...

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

@hassan zohaib

What do you want to be the main topic?

There are several questions which come to mind.

Whether Imran Khan will make a Khilafat? I am afraid only he can answer that, although he didn't mention it when posting the video.

Whether Quaid e Azam wanted Khilafat? According to Dr. Riaz Ali Shah, he clearly said it.

What is the concept of Khilafat according to Quaid e Azam? How can we know as he died so early, but clearly he cared much about the global Muslims of the world (hence strong emphasis on Palestine.) We would have to go back to his mentor, Allama Iqbal's, thoughts about Khilafat.

What does it mean that Imran Khan quoted Dr. Israr Ahmad? Is he a follower of Dr. Israr like Dr. Shahid Masood, Orya Maqbool Jan, Gen. Hamid Gul, and others? Again, only he can answer those questions.

I am sure my fellow liberal Pakistani brothers are having heart attacks and night sweats thinking that Imran Khan will declare himself a Khalifah, lol, or make Pakistan a full Islamic state.

Rest assured, it will not happen without taking the Pakistani people into confidence and first improving the current economic and political situations.

However, Imran Khan is a religious nationalist and always has been. Everyone has to come to terms with that.

 

[hassan zohaib]

@hassan zohaib

What do you want to be the main topic?

There are several questions which come to mind.

Whether Imran Khan will make a Khilafat? I am afraid only he can answer that, although he didn't mention it when posting the video.

Whether Quaid e Azam wanted Khilafat? According to Dr. Riaz Ali Shah, he clearly said it.

What is the concept of Khilafat according to Quaid e Azam? How can we know as he died so early, but clearly he cared much about the global Muslims of the world (hence strong emphasis on Palestine.) We would have to go back to his mentor, Allama Iqbal's, thoughts about Khilafat.

What does it mean that Imran Khan quoted Dr. Israr Ahmad? Is he a follower of Dr. Israr like Dr. Shahid Masood, Orya Maqbool Jan, Gen. Hamid Gul, and others? Again, only he can answer those questions.

I am sure my fellow liberal Pakistani brothers are having heart attacks and night sweats thinking that Imran Khan will declare himself a Khalifah, lol, or make Pakistan a full Islamic state.

Rest assured, it will not happen without taking the Pakistani people into confidence and first improving the current economic and political situations.

However, Imran Khan is a religious nationalist and always has been. Everyone has to come to terms with that.

Really relevant n to the point.
My basic purpose to post this was to highlight the thing what really a PM or head of state &party is thinking. V Pakistanis quote Quaid Pic wearing Cap 2 proove that he wanted pakistan to b Islamic country while others show Quaid's different speeches to proove that he was secular and wanted pak to b secular as well so if IK is quoting dr israr about Quaid's thoughts then can v think IK is trying 2 develop the notion of what type of govt really Quaid wanted or simply put Quaid wanted Khilafat so v should also go for it.
Yup definitely QA died & he couldn't talk much about What really Khilafat meant to him so here v can't take this concept only in Islamic perspective bcz it is only used and described by Islam so v can't give it different meanings but yup v basically define and choose the concepts of Khilafat to implement here in Pakistan.
Allama sb's version of Khilafat i don't know much about and if u know then u can share and v can discuss on it but imo, Khilafat is very far fetched subject but definitely it has some basic tenets which v can implement.

Either IK is a follower of Dr israr or not, this is the question i didn't talk about. But if u read Dr israr then he definitely vociferously proponent of the system of Khilafat so prooving One's point one can borrow words even from a pagan so if IK is thinking about this then he definitely can proove his point.

If u Follow politcs of Khan after 2011 then u can easily understand that Khan puts sometimes deliberately the topic 4 media to start debating and so i thought this isn't another one. Yup he started debate and there is a long way ahead...

My friend i m not getting heart attacks bcz i m not a liberal. I m just a Political student and finance n Econmic graduate who knows in politcs n business there is no space for emotions so i try 2 analyze things in most unbiased way, wdout any affiliations. I like IK'S thoughts but i also criticize his policies as i like NS's some works but i hate their way of politcs so what is best i choose n what isn't i dont, afterall i am Pakistani first.

Hope you got my point..

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

As you are so will you be ruled - Hadis-i Sherif

Hilafet will return when the Muslim folks are ready....

The Green Hilal ve Sitara represents Hilafet, the Red Ay-Yildiz represents Saltanat...

 

[hassan zohaib]

As you are so will you be ruled - Hadis-i Sherif

Hilafet will return when the Muslim folks are ready....

The Green Hilal ve Sitara represents Hilafet, the Red Ay-Yildiz represents Saltanat...

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Thanks
Could u plz more elaborate it?
V will like to learn more what it is all about bcz what i m getting point is that Saltanat and Khilafat can b two different things.

 

[Wa Muhammada]

If you are following Pm Imran khan on Twitter specifically & his statements generally after coming into Power then you can easily pinpoint that he is getting more & more religious in his statements, speeches. Specifically speaking,On 8th December he posted a NAAT Shareef and today he posted a lecture of dr Israr Ahmed in which he was quoting someone else-Dr of Quaid Azam- narrating the discussion took place between Quaid & his doctor but what really interesting was the part in which Quaid was presenting his views about Khilafat or ameer ul momeneen so what exactly was the purpose of IK quoting this lecture of Dr israr?
If he wanted to show the greatness of QA Jinnah then he could quote anything but why this? Was he trying to present his views about the Form of govt in Pakistan & in Muslim world?
Please do Comment either i am reading much between the lines or there is something which i am talking about.....
Your opinions are highly invited.....
@BHarwana @Imran Khan @Horus @war&peace

https://twitter.com/x/status/1073824168548937728

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People are waking up to the fact that IK is building a secular riasat and laws are being passed at a demonic speed. Look at the ppl he has with him, they Don’t even know dua e qanoot, durood, understand or follow the ruling of the Quran and Hadith - how can these ppl bring abt a khilafat system ???

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Thanks
Could u plz more elaborate it?
V will like to learn more what it is all about bcz what i m getting point is that Saltanat and Khilafat can b two different things.

The Ottoman Sultans, since Yavuz Sultan Selim, had had the added responsibility of Hilafet. Now, Hilafet was originally awarded to the likes of Hazret-i Ebu Bakr, Umar, Osman and Ali (RA), the luminous suns of the Islamic World with unparalleled knowledge, honor, diginity, respect in both the worlds. It’s impossible to fit into their positions for the Muslims in much later centuries. But, Hilafet had to continue. And, Hilafet had predominantly matters of Din to deal with.

In order to preserve the honor of the Hilafet and not to cause confusion (the enemies are 24/7 ready to instigate Fitne and Fesat based on the matters of Din), the Sheyh-ul Islam, the highest authority on Sheriyat, was given the primary responsibility to regulate the matters of Hilafet and give the suggestions accordingly. Mundane matters of the world were mostly dealt within the realm of Saltanat. Anyway, no decrees could be promulgated without the explicit Fetva from the Sheyh-ul Islam.

Therefore, the Saltanat created a shield to protect the honor of the Hilafet. All the worldly attacks, insults, setbacks etc. were borne by the Saltanat. Hilafet regulated Saltanat. Although Halife and Sultan was the same person, you can put the blame for the worldly failures, shortcomings etc. on the Sultan, but not on Halife. The honor of the Hilafet is directly related to the honor of the Prophet (PBUH), which has to be preserved at any cost....

 

[Zarvan]

If you are following Pm Imran khan on Twitter specifically & his statements generally after coming into Power then you can easily pinpoint that he is getting more & more religious in his statements, speeches. Specifically speaking,On 8th December he posted a NAAT Shareef and today he posted a lecture of dr Israr Ahmed in which he was quoting someone else-Dr of Quaid Azam- narrating the discussion took place between Quaid & his doctor but what really interesting was the part in which Quaid was presenting his views about Khilafat or ameer ul momeneen so what exactly was the purpose of IK quoting this lecture of Dr israr?
If he wanted to show the greatness of QA Jinnah then he could quote anything but why this? Was he trying to present his views about the Form of govt in Pakistan & in Muslim world?
Please do Comment either i am reading much between the lines or there is something which i am talking about.....
Your opinions are highly invited.....
@BHarwana @Imran Khan @Horus @war&peace

https://twitter.com/x/status/1073824168548937728

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If in next elections he gets two third majority you would see his real self and trust me liberals will go in hiding. He is not the Playboy which his liberal voters had in mind. He is strictly religious with a religious agenda in mind.

Khilafat ? this creature imran does,t have a clue



he,s a good boy drinking his tawees from bushra bibi

there is always a face behing a case--i was stunned about his(ignorance) knowledge of hazrat isa, alayhi s-salām, now i regret why i voted for him.

He was right about Hazrat ISA AS and Bushra Bibi had nothing to do with his thoughts. For your information many historians say that Jesus is a fictional character it's in books of religion like Bible and Quran where he is mentioned

he will never do this he is actually impressed and influenced with western way of govt

He is not his entire argument is that things being done by West are taken from Islam

 

[SQ8]

Khilafat is a made up concept of pan islamists that relies on the idea that everything practiced during the Prophet's time was relevant. Including the use of camels in combat and rampant meningitis.

 

[Yaseen1]

I think this is not correct west has taken some things from Islam but most of their acts are unIslamic like interest based economy, nudity ,casinos ,drugs,homosexuality and killing of innocents in other country for the sake of capturing resources of others and providing safe heavens to money launderers and corrupts on their soil

If in next elections he gets two third majority you would see his real self and trust me liberals will go in hiding. He is not the Playboy which his liberal voters had in mind. He is strictly religious with a religious agenda in mind.


He was right about Hazrat ISA AS and Bushra Bibi had nothing to do with his thoughts. For your information many historians say that Jesus is a fictional character it's in books of religion like Bible and Quran where he is mentioned


He is not his entire argument is that things being done by West are taken from Islam

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Khilafat is a made up concept of pan islamists that relies on the idea that everything practiced during the Prophet's time was relevant. Including the use of camels in combat and rampant meningitis.

I think you are too much sarcastic!!! Sultan Abdul Hamid Han, the Halife of the time, had a sub-marine built and giving a live demo to torpedo a ship....

 

[chocolatelyhero]

Whether any Leader want and don't want. But the truth when in the making phase of Pakistan we promised to world we acquired this land and we will impose Nizaam-e- Mustafa to this land.

This country was made in the name of Allah and every single of us know Pakistan ka matlab kia, "La Illaha Illallah"

Only thats why there is a boundry between India the part where there is majority of Non-Muslims

So people if Khilafat is not our purpose, then honesty speaking we should wipe out the boundry and became the part of india. This country is not made to be secular (No, no,no......... Never)

Whether we are De-tracked, But there must be some starting point (You know pahla katra....)