Does God exist?

[Safriz]

but you can see a supercomputer...a frog doesn't understand but he will be able to see it,right?
We can't understand god,okay.
But can we see it?NO
Does the present condition of the world indicates towards existence of god?NO

we were given a planet and given powers withing this planet to use its resources for our benifit.
if we abused it.....can we blame God?

 

[HellzHere]

If it is that simple to make conclusions then no one need to debate about this great question....

God exist or not is not a right question I think, If you believe in any power that in superior to any thing, you may count that as god... He`s the last resort to any believing kind...

God doesn't exist..its very easy to prove,the current world is the proof,how the great good god has made the present day world with so much evil?
Proving that god does exist,is extremely tough on the other hand..its just a belief.

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we were given a planet and given powers withing this planet to use its resources for our benifit.
if we abused it.....can we blame God?

What was god's first moment?How was he born?Everything that exists is born somehow/someday..how was god born?
You can't answer it and yet you believe.
God is just an imagination made for a disciplined policed life..No problem with that(i don't believe in god though)
But the present world is using god for mischief.

 

[Safriz]

Hasn't been done yet..
If god created this massive universe,how did he get the powers to do so?Who gifted him those powers,when was god born and how?

birth and death are themselves a creation of God and apply to creatures only....
does not apply to the Creator.
The Creator was always there and will ways ne there...Had no start and will have no end.

 

[RazPaK]

Well you can disagree with Dr Richard Dawkins but I respect him (doesn't mean I agree with him). He is an highly educated person who puts his point in a very articulate way. He believes in Atheism and have reasons to do so . On the other hand, Christian apologists like Sam Shamoun or David Wood etc lie and deceive people against Islam. They use "fake" hadiths to malign prophet (SAW) and they use dishonest approach to prove Islam 'wrong' ...Such type of people are JOKE !!!!! Dawkins does not use deception to misguide his audience atleast.... We should give one his due respect.

My imam was a phd in Biology at Yale University. Think about how Islam and Biology would mix and it would seem like it's incompatiable. Anyways He's refuted Dawkins many times during a conversation I had with him some years ago.

 

[RazPaK]

Also for all the psuedo-intellectuals that like to debate god and religion:

Does the chicken come from the egg, or does the egg from the chicken?

Answer this, and once you cannot you will realize the pardox within the creationist theory, although it is not completely false.

 

[lkozhi]

THe advaitha thought is that world is like a game, there is definitely an admin ,because he runs the server.He is there because things seems to be in order, but the players can play the game and get points and move up higher or die and loose points and be reborn.What happens if one player realizes that the game itself is unreal. Then admin elevates him and gives him some admin rights(moksha) . This is the battlefield explanation of advita. Games rules are given in the manual bagavat gita.RTFM

if you are curious Advaita Vedanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

islam is very close to advaitha stream of hinduism except in advaita we treat world and its people as an illusion created by God.
Advaitha is just one stream of thought in hinduism. Ever heard of Carvaka ? He was dawkins grand father.
hinduism is philosophy of people of indus. So are all pakistanis hindus.

 

[TrMhMt]

Who is God? I dont know who is he/she??

 

[gambit]

its a take it or leave it scenario....
you choose to beleive or you choose not to beleive....
but if God is up there visible to all...there will be no point of rewarding beleivers and punishing disbeleivers...
beleivers wi be rewarded because they neleived in the unseen....

Why must that be the point in the first place? What is the point of making oneself so difficult to believe that it ended up with two camps, believers and nonbelievers? What is the point of having nonbelievers? Why not make it easy for all time to believe?

 

[gambit]

Also for all the psuedo-intellectuals that like to debate god and religion:

Does the chicken come from the egg, or does the egg from the chicken?

Answer this, and once you cannot you will realize the pardox within the creationist theory, although it is not completely false.

This is a false challenge because the question is based upon the chicken in its current form. Going back in the chicken's evolutionary history and the answer is:

And I will leave it like that for all the religionists to finger it out...

 

[Mike2011]

Where is he?

Well you need to blow up in crowded market to see him. You may get 72 there.

 

[Safriz]

Who is God? I dont know who is he/she??

God is beyond gender.....and has ni gender.
gender is for creatures fir reasons of reproduction.
God doesnt reproduce in the same way...
God creates.

 

[Safriz]

Why must that be the point in the first place? What is the point of making oneself so difficult to believe that it ended up with two camps, believers and nonbelievers? What is the point of having nonbelievers? Why not make it easy for all time to believe?

the whole point is about freedom of choice..
some choose to beleive and some choose not to.
although both the beleiver and unbeleiver are same types of creature..have same tools of analysing the univaerse around them.
freedom of choice is the word.

 

[RazPaK]

This is a false challenge because the question is based upon the chicken in its current form. Going back in the chicken's evolutionary history and the answer is:

I was expecting this, and note I said it was for the psuedo-intellectuals. What was the chicken's form before?

 

[transmatter]

who asked you to think about it?
its just believe that make anyone know that HE's there,
not anything like this thought and random thread at a forum is gonna sove this problem,
the the same dark force that raised that question in your head, is gonna make you refuse any other mark or evidence to his existence and they will bring any "scientific" thing to counter it,.

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thats counted as offensive.

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Also for all the psuedo-intellectuals that like to debate god and religion:

Does the chicken come from the egg, or does the egg from the chicken?

Answer this, and once you cannot you will realize the pardox within the creationist theory, although it is not completely false.

in this case, i will favour the chicken, they are nice.

 

[gambit]

the whole point is about freedom of choice..
some choose to beleive and some choose not to.
although both the beleiver and unbeleiver are same types of creature..have same tools of analysing the univaerse around them.
freedom of choice is the word.

I knew you are going to bring that up.

Currently, you are communicating with a man who goes by an electronic name 'gambit'. You do not have to guess at anything regarding his existence. The level of sophistication of his conversation is far beyond anything non-human could achieve. No animals. No robots. You have a choice of either believe that a real man is behind that electronic name or you do not. If you chose not to believe that a man exist, you are still saddled with the burden of explaining to everyone what is the source of that level of sophistication of conversation. No matter what, you are still left with a choice.

Same for the existence of an all-powerful deity, so powerful that he allegedly can create life from nothing. By revealing himself to everyone and for all time, he does not take away anyone's choice to believe. He just made it extremely difficult to disbelieve. You are confused, knowledge does not equal to an automatic denial of freedom of will, only the willful exercise of nonbelief.