Do you want Shariah law in Pakistan

[Dillinger]

I think here 'actions are judged by their intentions' principal is going to apply; if you were spewing venom against the Prophet - You'd be charged with blasphemy after your day in court, of course !

But of course, if you're going to delve into the nuances of the blasphemy law & the whole discussion surrounding it, I suggest you talk to a Jurist or a Lawyer from Pakistan who looks at it ever so closely than the rest of us !



What is Justice ? What is 'right' or 'wrong' ?



I never said freedom & equal respect should be given to all religions; we don't think that any of the other religions are 'correct' & quite conspicuously so ! What I said was - Equal Rights & Privileges for all, that is, all citizens of the State !

Likewise if venom is being spewed against any other religion - It must be dealt with severely & decisively !

And no I don't think Sharia will create an 'equal' society; we don't place Islam & the rest on the same pedestal ! We think the Sharia will create an equatable society as per our world view.



We don't prescribe to the same notions of 'enlightenment' as the rest of the world does ! We believe adultery to be a social evil that rips the very fabric of society; therefore if it is committed it must be hushed up but if it revealed to the rest of the society beyond reasonable doubt then...yes - Carry out the prescribed punishment !



I never talked about 'all faiths being equal'; however I do not know what the prescribed punishment for this is or if there is such a prohibition or not ! If there is - Fine...do it !

This is your idea of being different from the Taliban?

The only difference is that the Taliban will enact the prescribed punishment on mere suspicion and do so in a messy manner with stoning or AK-47s.
You on the other hand will also prescribe the same punishment but only after "due process" in a court- you'll require a higher standard of proof- that's all.

So you believe that one religion is greater than the other- wish to adjudicate on the basis of said religion and think that is remotely a good idea.

You're going to argue about right or wrong here, you seriously cannot see how those two terms apply to what you believe in?

The only difference between this and what the Taliban preach is that a court will hand out the same punishment and you'll get a lawyer, unlike the Taliban you will not kill anyone for simply practicing another faith but their faith is still inferior to yours. You're just a more suave, less messy, more sophisticated version of the Taliban with a few differences (I guess you're cool with girls going to school) but god forbid one of them engages in premarital sex that's the end of her.

Lets end this yaara, I started it so this might sound disingenuous but lets end this exchange.
@Hyperion @Secur

 

[qamar1990]

dude may be you could fool dessert bedouins with such law but in this age of technology do you think it would deter any Pakistani teenager from doing what they want to do? Unless off-course purchasing Saathi or Durex is also considered an evidence

what kinda of dessert? mr expert in bullshit.
ice cream?

im done playing nice with your a pathetic liar and deceiver, you have no idea what your talking about. you seem like a freaking clown juggling the same **** over and over agen.

 

[JonAsad]

@Armstrong the punishment for a Muslim leaving Islam is only described in the Quran as being implemented in the hereafter! There is no worldly punishment described in the Quran for apostates and even in Prophet Muhammad PBUHs time there were many example of people becoming Muslim and than leaving the fold. They were never killed unless they tried to incite violence amongst the people.

Excelent point- many people repented to old ways after the death of Holy Prophet-
I cant find Abu Bakr- Umer- Uthman- Ali killing them without any threatning reasons- -

And thats for Apostates-

 

[ajpirzada]

Some of the Shariah Law Provisions-

Family relations
Crime and punishment
Inheritance and disposal of property
The economic system
External and other relations

People should look at them too and understand what Shariah actually is before criticising- -

Example-
Lets say Shariah economic system- what the people has to say on this- any one up for criticising?-
Does any one even know what that is?- -
@somebozo?- @Imran Khan can you find any stone age laws not applicable in modern world?-

well i kind of made a rough attempt at that in my following posts:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/nation...want-shariah-law-pakistan-10.html#post4089513
and
http://www.defence.pk/forums/nation...want-shariah-law-pakistan-11.html#post4089610

 

[Armstrong]

@Armstrong the punishment for a Muslim leaving Islam is only described in the Quran as being implemented in the hereafter! There is no worldly punishment described in the Quran for apostates and even in Prophet Muhammad PBUHs time there were many example of people becoming Muslim and than leaving the fold. They were never killed unless they tried to incite violence amongst the people.

Theeek haii; then there won't be such a law !

Thats why I used the word 'if' because I don't know the nuances of every aspect of the Shariah, right now my focus, with respect to the Shariah, is Finance more so than others ! And if there isn't any such injunction then making such a law should be a criminal offense.

 

[Pakistan life]

What kind of childish thinking this is ap ke sare comments mane pharee hain Impose karna ek different topic ay ap to sharia law ko backward keh rahe the by the way for the imposition of Sharia law we dont need these uneducated Mullahs...

 

[KingMamba]

So guys has anybody heard of Maulana Somebozo azeem??? You know outside of the realm of pdf where he is the king of clowns???

 

[ajpirzada]

Family relations = Permitting cousin marriages: FAIL
Crime and punishment = chopping hands and necks : FAIL
Inheritance and disposal of property = Women get half of men : FAIL
The economic system = No banking, no loans no borrowings : FAIL
External and other relations = Send letters to global political barons asking them to submit or else invade, loot and plunder them : FAIL!

the most ignorant and confident person when it comes to Shariah on this thread :p
the award is definitely yours!! no offence though lol

 

[Star Wars]

Yup but not the Taliban kind - the Iqbal kinda !

For the love of Darth Vadar , why would you ever consider Shariah law !?!

 

[Imran Khan]

which sharia sunii shia bralve deobandi ahil hadees qadiyani ahmdi hanfi shafi hanbli malki salfi ETc

because each one say other kaffir

 

[qamar1990]

Yeah you must be quite the scholar and I am married to Angelina Jolie. Everyone here knows you are an atheist so likewise we already know your views.

If you are such an expert on the Quran what is your name?? Surely a scholarly individual such as yourself must be world renowned???

if your read anything i replied to this guy will see he takes outs it in one ear takes it out the other.
this guy is a pathetic joke, all he does is insults and baseless accusations and thats about it.

i tried to have a debate with him but he just dont seem to get it real frustrating.
everybopdy needs to just ignore him unless he actually

makes a LIST of his problems so we can go over one by one instead of just jumping all over the place.

 

[JonAsad]

Family relations = Permitting cousin marriages: FAIL
Crime and punishment = chopping hands and necks : FAIL
Inheritance and disposal of property = Women get half of men : FAIL
The economic system = No banking, no loans no borrowings : FAIL
External and other relations = Submit to Islam or else be invaded, looted, plundered, enslaved : FAIL!

You seem to be clinching on some very basic and rediculous objections whose clarifactions you can find easily over the internet-

There is a such list of Epic Fails i can produce of some Laws practiced in Modern World- but then that will be only my misunderstanding or misinterpretations?- No?-

 

[Imran Khan]

Family relations = Permitting cousin marriages: FAIL
Crime and punishment = chopping hands and necks : FAIL
Inheritance and disposal of property = Women get half of men : FAIL
The economic system = No banking, no loans no borrowings : FAIL
External and other relations = Submit to Islam or else be invaded, looted, plundered, enslaved : FAIL!

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don't slap islam in public hahahahaha there is much more you forget loot missions - bandhi sex - looting by the name of jihad - and kill men and marry their womens

 

[A.Rafay]

So guys has anybody heard of Maulana Somebozo azeem??? You know outside of the realm of pdf where he is the king of clowns???

Mualana somebozo azeem lives in saudi Arabia, he gives fatwas on sharia laws! His address in ksa is unknown or else muttawas would have..........................!

 

[Imran Khan]

this what is islam ?
ghaznavi demolish somnat = jihad
demolish of babri mosque = barbaric act zulm