Do you think religion is a personal matter ?

[Mage]

or something of this sort such as men and women come out in open in indecent dresses.. then it comes under corruption of Islamic society, which is to be stopped forcefully if required.. Why? because when a man or a woman wears something that he or she thinks is fine, but a general population is offended, then it must be stopped forcefully..

No. Rather, general population should not be offended by things that don't concern them.

when he/ she comes out in public, he must follow what majority wants..

That's fascism.

 

[war&peace]

I can only speak about Islam which isn't only personal. Its ambit stretches from a personal level to statecraft, foreign relations, trade, jurisprudence, warfare and welfare, statehood. It deals with political identity, formation of polity, laws, ethics, accountability and other pillars of the state. Islam is a religion which also applies to the real world, it has a complete and fair system of banking, tax, Govt, law, military and more importantly a political system.

......orange drink bhai

 

[PakSword]

Sarcasn...I guess.

Yeah, I also think it was sarcasm.. he liked my comment.. and see who liked his comment..

 

[TMA]

I can only speak about Islam which isn't only personal. Its ambit stretches from a personal level to statecraft, foreign relations, trade, jurisprudence, warfare and welfare, statehood. It deals with political identity, formation of polity, laws, ethics, accountability and other pillars of the state. Islam is a religion which also applies to the real world, it has a complete and fair system of banking, tax, Govt, law, military and more importantly a political system.

Please someone remove this bigot from the post of PDF administrator (!).

 

[PakSword]

No. Rather, general population should not be offended by things that don't concern them.

Not discussing other religions here.. An Islamic society doesn't allow nudists in the name of freedom of speech and expression and behavior.. Just as an example..

 

[war&peace]

No. Rather, general population should not be offended by things that don't concern them.

Can you enlist what concerns and what does concern others?

That's fascism.

Well, this is practiced in the secular states. Majority or the community sets what's right, what's wrong, what is acceptable, and what's not.

 

[Mage]

Not discussing other religions here.. An Islamic society doesn't allow nudists in the name of freedom of speech and expression and behavior.. Just as an example..

What is an Islamic society? A sharia controlled state?

 

[TMA]

Not discussing other religions here.. An Islamic society doesn't allow nudists in the name of freedom of speech and expression and behavior.. Just as an example..

Why? I will tell you... because you have taken the "middle way"...what you do in your home is your business...as long it is not a crime (as opposed to a sin)...but in the public domain..it (ought to) become(s) the business of the State... not in terms of personal worship but civil and of course criminal matters...

Extremists on both sides (call them religious/conservatives or secularists/liberals) hate the middle way...

 

[war&peace]

Please someone remove this bigot from the post of PDF administrator (!).

You are too sarcastic mate... be thankful to people like me who are telling everyone its sarcasm...otherwise it can lead to strange consequences.

 

[PakSword]

What is an Islamic society? A sharia controlled state?

In olden times, it was the time of Prophet (PBUH) and Khilafat e Rashida.. In current times, a state where Muslims constitute majority and most of the laws are derived from Quran and Sunnah..

 

[TMA]

What is an Islamic society? A sharia controlled state?

A simple book for the layman is "The Principles of State and Government in Islam" by the late former director of the Department of Islamic Reconstruction, (Pakistan), Muhammad Asad.

https://archive.org/stream/ThePrinciplesOfStateAndGovernmentInIslam/The Principles of State and Government in Islam#page/n15/mode/2up

 

[Mage]

Well, this is practiced in the secular states. Majority or the community sets what's right, what's wrong, what is acceptable, and what's not.

Yeah..Hitler's Germany decided that Jews should be butchered.. Not everything is right with any state.

If one doesn't follow a religion then why should he/she be forced to dressed the way a religion demands?


There should be matters that concerns a state. And there are matters should be left to decide for individuals. Religion and religious customs and practices are to be left for individual choices.

 

[PakSword]

Why? I will tell you... because you have taken the "middle way"...what you do in your home is your business...as long it is not a crime (as opposed to a sin)...but in the public domain..it (ought to) become(s) the business of the State... not in terms of personal worship but civil and of course criminal matters...

Extremists on both sides (call them religious/conservatives or secularists/liberals) hate the middle way...

Islam teaches us میانہ روی

So extremists are also not allowed... on either side.. The ones who blow themselves up to impose, and the ones who say "Allow Polyandry if Polygamy is Allowed"!

 

[Mage]

most of the laws are derived from Quran and Sunnah..

And which states are those? And why most? Why not all?

A simple book for the layman is "The Principles of State and Government in Islam" by the late former director of the Department of Islamic Reconstruction, (Pakistan), Muhammad Asad.

https://archive.org/stream/ThePrinciplesOfStateAndGovernmentInIslam/The Principles of State and Government in Islam#page/n15/mode/2up

Not gonna read a book to learn that. Thank you.

 

[PakSword]

And which states are those? And why most? Why not all?

Because people are still striving for the laws.. The ruling elite in any Islamic country hate these laws because it hurts them in the long run..

Imagine Nawaz shareef and her daughter without their left hands roaming around the streets singing "Mujhay kyun kaata" instead of "Mujhay kyun nikala"..