Do not send girls to schools, colleges: Hefajat-e-Islam chief Shafi

[VikingRaider]

no, but if you could link it... i could prove him wrong at every word he utters

First please search before making comment. পুরা জিনিস না পড়েই এমন ফেসবুকীয় মন্তব্য ভাই আপনাদের কাছে আশা করি না। Please research when you read some news in an online forum, and research related more news. If shafi is guilty I demand direct apology from him, but what is shafi really didn't say that? Our media is champion of distorting things and providing partial comment .

Nobody should go to his school of thought.

Educated women are a threat to caveman cults like his.

He denied this news and said that he didn't say that. He just said against Co education. Come on bro, if he really made such comment ,surely it is confrontable, but what if he really did not say so ?
Please read the news. We only hear one side and then start to make remark by considering it as absolute truth , never even think that others also have something to say.
আংশিক বক্তব্য প্রচার বা বিকৃত করে প্রচার কিন্তু আমাদের মিডিয়াগুলির পুরনো পাপ !
Because media is under control of fifth columnists.
@Al-Ansar

 

[Michael Corleone]

First please search before making comment. পুরা জিনিস না পড়েই এমন ফেসবুকীয় মন্তব্য ভাই আপনাদের কাছে আশা করি না। Please research when you read some news in an online forum, and research related more news. If shafi is guilty I demand direct apology from him, but what is shafi really didn't say that? Our media is champion of distorting things and providing partial comment .

i've already watched a video after your first comment and search subsequent recent video... my point doesn't change, however i don't understand if you're trying to defend him or not? judging from the thread post alone... we could have had a perception of the situation... without watching the video, maybe not if it was a fake news but looks like this thread wouldn't have been live for this long then.... so my question to you is... why are you being defensive?

 

[VikingRaider]

my point doesn't change, however i don't understand if you're trying to defend him or not?

It depends , I already replied to blue sky in another thread . If he really commited the crime , he must be accused , if not then not .

i've already watched a video after your first comment and search subsequent recent video

Please post it , post the full audience . খন্ডিত ভিডিওর রেফারেন্স গ্রহনযোগ্য নয় , ধন্যবাদ ।

 

[Michael Corleone]

It depends , I already replied to blue sky in another thread . If he really commited the crime , she must be accused , if not then not .

Please post it , post the full audience . খন্ডিত ভিডিওর রেফারেন্স গ্রহনযোগ্য নয় , ধন্যবাদ ।

you sound confused

 

[VikingRaider]

you sound confused

Not really. Please post the full video of the audience .

This type of cut piece video really does not prove anything .

So please full video .Look the reaction of peoples on this video. You want the stability of AL govt because of the continuation of the development ? But do you know that such cut piece and quick judgment will only destabilize the govt ? You can not deal with bot issue . So first post the full audience and then decide what he actually wanted to say . He even can not speak correctly and also the video is cut piece .

He wanted to admit them to madrasa for higher degree , and it's not new for them . They give the same prescription for men too , not only for women . This is the nature of Bangladeshi madrasa , that they believe that general and co education is harmful, so asking them to admit in madrasa instead of school and college does not necessarily mean that he wanted to stop higher education .And by this time their madrasa Daorah Hadith degree is equivalent to masters , so he can advice now and can speak for his own institute , it's his right .
So I need to see the original full video , so that we can decide what he actually wanted to say .
I am searching for the full video yet no result . I am trying , before giving my opinion , I need to watch the full audience . As relying on our media is just not my style .

 

[Riyad]

Not really. Please post the full video of the audience .

This type of cut piece video really does not prove anything .

So please full video .Look the reaction of peoples on this video. You want the stability of AL govt because of the continuation of the development ? But do you know that such cut piece and quick judgment will only destabilize the govt ? You can not deal with bot issue . So first post the full audience and then decide what he actually wanted to say . He even can not speak correctly and also the video is cut piece .

Yes, we can only believe digital Mullah like you. Stupid.

 

[VikingRaider]

Yes, we can only believe digital Mullah like you. Stupid.

Shut up you Jamati paid fifth columnist, other than ranting why the heck you are not posting the full video that was recorded that time ?Go post threads related to underwear wearing police and Hero alom related post or some other post that successfully defame Bangladesh and make it laughing stock . Serious discussion is not for you . I do not consider you as a worthy person for any serious discussion .
And after all who do not know the enmity between Deobandi and your patron Jamat Islami ? Everyone know this. So do not try to create anarchy without concrete evidence .

 

[Michael Corleone]

Not really. Please post the full video of the audience .

This type of cut piece video really does not prove anything .

So please full video .Look the reaction of peoples on this video. You want the stability of AL govt because of the continuation of the development ? But do you know that such cut piece and quick judgment will only destabilize the govt ? You can not deal with bot issue . So first post the full audience and then decide what he actually wanted to say . He even can not speak correctly and also the video is cut piece .

He wanted to admit them to madrasa for higher degree , and it's not new for them . They give the same prescription for men too , not only for women . This is the nature of Bangladeshi madrasa , that they believe that general and co education is harmful, so asking them to admit in madrasa instead of school and college does not necessarily mean that he wanted to stop higher education .And by this time their madrasa Daorah Hadith degree is equivalent to masters , so he can advice now and can speak for his own institute , it's his right .
So I need to see the original full video , so that we can decide what he actually wanted to say .
I am searching for the full video yet no result . I am trying , before giving my opinion , I need to watch the full audience . As relying on our media is just not my style .

well even taking your point into account, they;re wrong and doesn't justify whatever they're saying regardless...
and whatever he wanted to say was not far from where i was going with my assumption of him.... misogynist
his comments destabilized the faith of thousands of youth rather than the govt.... so yeah...

 

[VikingRaider]

well even taking your point into account, they;re wrong and doesn't justify whatever they're saying regardless...
and whatever he wanted to say was not far from where i was going with my assumption of him.... misogynist
his comments destabilized the faith of thousands of youth rather than the govt.... so yeah...

Yes agreed , but what if he really did not say it , but still a group preach it against him by the cut piece, while specially govt is trying to find a new political ground ? Have you read any official statement of Bangladesh govt yet , about the comment of their ally ?
So Who will be beneficial now if anarchy starts and a group pressure AL to take care of him ? Who will be beneficial if AL fail to gain a new political ground rather than old backdated 1971 issue ?
I am not asking them to compromise with crimes . My opinion is just everyone should consider and listen what others want to say .that's it . I hope probably you understood who will be beneficial if AL move against Hefazat now , you saw even the bed partners of the extreme Militant and enemy of Women rights , now demanding punishment of shafi, did they ask for his punishment while he ( shafi ) called women Tamarind in 2013 ? No right ? If not then , now what make them sooo eager to protect women right?Because that time ( 2013) clash between shafi and so called nastiks who were actually common peoples came into street for justice could benefit them ( bed partners of Jamatis )?Now the same group want to protect women right ? Why are in sooo hurry on such statement ? Where were they when the same Hefazat directly said that women are tamarind aka tetul??What is their agenda now?
Ah that's like the laughing crow of Hikmet .

Is it actually the dancing of jackal to entertain Hen? Are not they taking advantage of this issue ? Use of religion , secularism and freedom fight is a multi billion dollar business in Bangladesh . So IMHO , we should not take the issue so lightly. But it's up to others , no one is required to accept it ( my analysis that is based on my line of thinking regarding the relation of political issue ) , I just wrote my opinion about current political agenda that is predominant in Bangladesh.

But yes if shafi really said that , then surely he must apologize , no disagreement in this case .
@Michael Corleone

 

[Persian Gulf 1906]

All Islamists are scared of women becoming educated and independent. Very insecure creatures.

 

[Nilgiri]

**** him and his entourage, how are these people not put in jail?

You can put people in jail for what they merely speak?

 

[Persian Gulf 1906]

You can put people in jail for what they merely speak?

quite easily, if i 'merely speak' in iran that i hate corrupt akhoonds and want a secular democracy... well, you can guess.

 

[Nilgiri]

quite easily, if i 'merely speak' in iran that i hate corrupt akhoonds and want a secular democracy... well, you can guess.

Essentially its how I in the end judge a society...the level it goes after free speech, even among the regular people.

 

[Persian Gulf 1906]

Essentially its how I in the end judge a society...the level it goes after free speech, even among the regular people.

sometimes free speech can be harmful and detrimental to society when it radicalises people or incites people to violence, but often it is used just to protect the positions of the people in power...

 

[Nilgiri]

sometimes free speech can be harmful and detrimental to society when it radicalises people or incites people to violence, but often it is used just to protect the positions of the people in power...

Well thats when it crosses over to "Expression" rather than just speech..given they are calls for action/harm etc (against individuals) etc. Freedom of expression of course needs limits for a civilised society to determine. But free speech should be given the broadest realm possible....pure words (with no action/direction towards realised tort of others i.e a larger expression) cannot harm in a quantifiable absolutely proven way...so its slippery slope when we make exceptions for one set of instances over others.