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Emo,

Not really.

Contrary to what is felt & said here, I feel the media has helped. The ' swayable' masses ( mostly the religious fundamental types) will remain the same on both sides with or without the media coz they will believe only what they want to believe.

The rest mostly youngsters actually are smart & capable to sift thru the chaff of crap that is churned out by channels who have to spew something to be visible.

Years ago, when radio was the primary means of info gathering, we had worse mindsets than today. Now, even if our own channels air biased news / information there are a host of neutral channels who make us aware that the common man on both sides has the same probs, eats the same food, celebrates the same festivals etc.

I am hard put to explain to my son why I am so keen to be on such sites when there is ' so much else to do' in life.He meets Pakistanis and finds them as good / bad as himself. His friends too don't care for India more than at best the next cricket match.

The key is education ,being young & perceptive / discernible.

eh u have a Son , I m probably the youngest person on this forum yupieee :D :yahoo:

What i feel is that most of the people in India think of Pak as a a land of Terror Taliban, people Roam around with Ak-47 & RPGs & bla bla
here Media has got a role in Inducing these things into hearts & minds of people, People Blindly trust 'em coz it their Channel
& for Youngsters I can tell u my Generation gives a Damn to whats going in the country, They think about their new Mobile Phones, New Music Stuff & Hash...
There are people Who do care but they are not much
 
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eh u have a Son , I m probably the youngest person on this forum yupieee :D :yahoo:

What i feel is that most of the people in India think of Pak as a a land of Terror Taliban, people Roam around with Ak-47 & RPGs & bla bla
here Media has got a role in Inducing these things into hearts & minds of people, People Blindly trust 'em coz it their Channel
& for Youngsters I can tell u my Generation gives a Damn to whats going in the country, They think about their new Mobile Phones, New Music Stuff & Hash...
There are people Who do care but they are not much

No. This is not the case with most people of Pakistani which live in Punjab and Sindh
 
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Sorry, Didn't got ur meaning....

The situation of AK47 is not in the case of Punjab or Sindh were most pakistani lived. AK 47 type areas are those which are bit autonomous.
 
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Certain people such as Omar and Jana in this forum mistakenly believe that Indians are obsessed with Pakistan :rofl: To the average Indian, Pakistan is a non issue except when you send your suicide minded sons to Kashmir or Mumbai. Then we become obsessed with Pakistan. Why do Indians come to Pakistani defence forums? We come to read the religious and patriotic rant here and to have a good laugh. The average Indian will tell you that politicians and extremists in his country are bums and that India has a long way to go. No need for you to tell us that. We already know it. Let us try to tell you that about your country and you threaten to nuke our computers :undecided:

Akand Bharat and India wanting to conquer Pakistan :rofl::rofl: Please look at your country. Why will India with its thrash heap of problems want to conquer your small country with its thrash heap of problems? If you ever get evidence of any Indian government wanting to conquer Pakistan please make it public to enable the Indian voters to lynch any mad politcians having designs of incorporating Pakistan with its professional tax evaders and extremists into India. If India wanted territory then Bangladesh was ripe for the taking in 1971. Even if Pakistan was offered on a silver platter to India , the offer would be refused. Make no mistake about it. Our 80 million hindus are glad that the northern Muslim extremists were given their own land.

Muslim brotherhood ? Oh please spare me that nonsense. Chances are more of a global Muslim being killed by another Muslim rather than a non Muslim. In any event if you are so sincere about your Muslim brotherhood theory then you wouldn't have allowed the Christian :usflag: to drone bomb your Muslim civilians. There exists more of Muslim - Hindu brotherhood within India then there exists a Muslim - Muslim brotherhood within Pakistan. So please leave our Muslim population out of your target sites and let us take care of our own brothers and sisters. Rather concentrate on how you can spare your own Muslim population the savagery of war which you have exposed them to. If you are so sincere about Muslim brotherhood then it surprises me that a million Muslims around the world has not risen up against USA using Pakistan to massacre their Muslim Taliban brothers. Yes you may say that the Taliban are not Muslims but a majority of the world's Muslim populations will be inclined to disagree with you.

Water theft ? Please read the agreements which exists between the South Asian nations and then make those allegations. When India is not willing to kow tow to your demands for moving the goalposts then we are accused of heavy handed tactics or of being an "insensitive larger nation". India is not your babysitter nor your big brother and owes you no favours.

Your superiority complex relating to your military is laughable. Indians who know anything about your military now call it the foreign legion of the USA. Sorry but that is a perception which is also shared by many of my Pakistani mates here in Africa. But then again , maybe if you paid your taxes your government will have enough funds to secure its own army.

Your nukes. Please keep em. I as an Indian am happy that Pakistan has nukes. It adds to your safety and if it gives you a sense of security so be it. If you use it against India then India has enough nukes to retaliate. Right now though you having nukes moves away from any argument which you put forward that you are being bullied by a nuclear armed India.


Indian perception about Pakistanis? Great cricket players. Exporters of international terrorism. Responsible for the carnage in Mumbai. Love their basmathi rice and quawali music. Former Hindus who converted to Islam and still haven't got the recipe right. Demanding the "liberation" of Kashmir so that they can invade Kashmir. Plenty extremists in Pakistan so possibly another Afghanistan. Faced with the prospects of having their civil government overthrown they still keep 80% of their army on India's border and send in 30 000 soldiers to take on the extremists who will destroy their nation. Blames India and Israel and sometimes the USA for their woes whereas the average Israeli if asked to point out where Pakistan is will most probably look at you blank and the average Indian if asked about Pakistan will reply " we have our own s h!t here why worry about theirs." If anything almost every Indian will agree with this sentiment .....keep your Pakistan but please let us conquer your cricket team :pakistan:
 
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Ohh great what he meant was unless we have a common enemy who is more powerful than both of us and it really threatened even our existence and we forced to work together to oppose it..

Lets make it simple instead of US and China imagine Aliens :P

Ahhh well US and China are far far powerful than India and Pakistan.

One of them may be your enemy but not ours.

And i dont think so any of these or anyone else could be an enemy of both.

They would have to take sides and it means we cant be united
 
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Certain people such as Omar and Jana in this forum mistakenly believe that Indians are obsessed with Pakistan ::

Me and Omar are not hypocrates. Simple as that.

You Indians are here on this forum not to understand our point of view but to spread your propaganda against our country and post hypocratic comments against us.


The bottom line is We Dont Trust India at all.


India had and will always keep working on harming Pakistan.
 
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Ahhh well US and China are far far powerful than India and Pakistan.

One of them may be your enemy but not ours.

And i dont think so any of these or anyone else could be an enemy of both.

They would have to take sides and it means we cant be united

Jana you still didnt get it..He was citing an example..an enemy as powerful as US or China ..it doesn't mean that they have to be our enemies..Gosh you are the senior member here it should be you explaining me every thing :disagree: ...
 
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i personaly don't have problim from indians we live eat drink togather here in ksa but only some extreamsts and indian medea way of talking abut pakistan make me crazy.
 
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eh u have a Son , I m probably the youngest person on this forum yupieee :D :yahoo:

What i feel is that most of the people in India think of Pak as a a land of Terror Taliban, people Roam around with Ak-47 & RPGs & bla bla
here Media has got a role in Inducing these things into hearts & minds of people, People Blindly trust 'em coz it their Channel
& for Youngsters I can tell u my Generation gives a Damn to whats going in the country, They think about their new Mobile Phones, New Music Stuff & Hash...
There are people Who do care but they are not much

Well.. just proves another similarity on both sides of the border - ladies are happiest when they either are young or feel young ( even made to feel young ).

See.. we have a lot in common.
 
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While i think India Pakistan is in fact enemy on state level but we do have some understanding.We never bombed each other civilians during any war..

but i think that this may be the very reason that most of our civillians talk in favour of war :disagree: .look what ww2 did to europe.
 
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Jana you still didnt get it..He was citing an example..an enemy as powerful as US or China ..it doesn't mean that they have to be our enemies..Gosh you are the senior member here it should be you explaining me every thing :disagree: ...

I got him but keeping in view the scenario i dont see any Common Enemy.


The only common enemy within this south asian region could be India for smaller countries.
 
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I got him but keeping in view the scenario i dont see any Common Enemy.


The only common enemy within this south asian region could be India for smaller countries.

So much hatred towards India ?? :disagree: Any way i done explaining to you :cheers:
 
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Me and Omar are not hypocrates. Simple as that.

You Indians are here on this forum not to understand our point of view but to spread your propaganda against our country and post hypocratic comments against us.


The bottom line is We Dont Trust India at all.


India had and will always keep working on harming Pakistan.


Well yaar then perhaps I should pick up my pay cheque from RAW.

No need for India to harm Pakistan. Wouldn't you say that Pakistanis are their own worst enemies ?

Anyways most Indians one way or another have their own problems with India. For them to even bother about Pakistan would be for you hoping for too much :disagree:
 
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Well yaar then perhaps I should pick up my pay cheque from RAW.

if they hire people like you then i can understand the sorry state of RAW :D

No need for India to harm Pakistan. Wouldn't you say that Pakistanis are their own worst enemies ?

Anyways most Indians one way or another have their own problems with India. For them to even bother about Pakistan would be for you hoping for too much :disagree:

India is always obssesed with harming Pakistan there is no other word about it.

As far as common people both countries, they have their own problems and even dont bother about each others' country.
 
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