Disengagement Reports Untrue, Govt and Army Misleads Media: Ajai Shukla

[Green Arrow]

Now this is shocking if true.

 

[hussain0216]

India has been humilated

It's accepted it can't defeat or push back China

India hasn't got the balls to attack or declare war

During negotiations India has agree to cede territory in return for China not pushing forward, atleast for the moment
China has no intention of leaving
And India is playing for time, hoping to build up forces, hope the U.S gets involved (true darpok behaviour)


In the meantime India can't reveal this to it's population,.
HENCE THE OPTICS
It's all optics for India now

An imaginary victory is better then a real defeat for India

 

[TNT]

Modi really thinks of his followers as morons and is making them live in a delusion.

 

[mig25]

China has no intention of leaving
And India is playing for time, hoping to build up forces, hope the U.S gets involved (true darpok Hindu behaviour)


In the meantime India can't reveal this to it's population,.
HENCE THE OPTICS
It's all optics for India now

An imaginary victory is better then a real defeat for India

According to people familiar with the matter, Chinese and Indian armies are expected to carry out a joint verification to assess the implementation of the disengagement process once the withdrawal of troops is completed in the west section of China-India boundary. The two militaries are set to hold extensive talks on bringing back peace and tranquility in the region. Can you confirm that and give us some updates on the disengagement? Will there be more bilateral talks between Chinese and Indian troops?

Zhao Lijian: Following the consensus reached at the commander-level talks, the Chinese and India border troops have been taking effective measures to disengage at Galwan Valley and other areas in the west section. The overall situation at the China-India boundary is stable and ameliorating. The two sides will continue to maintain dialogue and communication through military and diplomatic channels, including holding a new round of commander-level talks and the meeting of the Working Mechanism for Consultation and Coordination on China-India Border Affairs. We hope India will work with China towards the same goal to implement consensus reached between the two sides with concrete actions and jointly de-escalate tensions in the border region.

https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_665399/s2510_665401/2511_665403/t1796528.shtml

Hopefully a link from the Chinese Govt website should remove any confusion among Pakistanis that doubt India's statements on disengagement. Total disengagement from both sides will take months because of both lack of trust between the two countries and moving equipment from that terrain takes time.

If you intention was to troll, I will appreciate you telling me since I can happily drop you in my ignore list.

 

[hussain0216]

According to people familiar with the matter, Chinese and Indian armies are expected to carry out a joint verification to assess the implementation of the disengagement process once the withdrawal of troops is completed in the west section of China-India boundary. The two militaries are set to hold extensive talks on bringing back peace and tranquility in the region. Can you confirm that and give us some updates on the disengagement? Will there be more bilateral talks between Chinese and Indian troops?

Zhao Lijian: Following the consensus reached at the commander-level talks, the Chinese and India border troops have been taking effective measures to disengage at Galwan Valley and other areas in the west section. The overall situation at the China-India boundary is stable and ameliorating. The two sides will continue to maintain dialogue and communication through military and diplomatic channels, including holding a new round of commander-level talks and the meeting of the Working Mechanism for Consultation and Coordination on China-India Border Affairs. We hope India will work with China towards the same goal to implement consensus reached between the two sides with concrete actions and jointly de-escalate tensions in the border region.

https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_665399/s2510_665401/2511_665403/t1796528.shtml

Hopefully a link from the Chinese Govt website should remove any confusion among Pakistanis that doubt India's statements on disengagement. Total disengagement from both sides will take months because of both lack of trust between the two countries and moving equipment from that terrain takes time.

If you intention was to troll, I will appreciate you telling me since I can happily drop you in my ignore list.

Read my post again

It's exactly what's happening

Everything else at the moment is optics

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

According to people familiar with the matter, Chinese and Indian armies are expected to carry out a joint verification to assess the implementation of the disengagement process once the withdrawal of troops is completed in the west section of China-India boundary. The two militaries are set to hold extensive talks on bringing back peace and tranquility in the region. Can you confirm that and give us some updates on the disengagement? Will there be more bilateral talks between Chinese and Indian troops?

Zhao Lijian: Following the consensus reached at the commander-level talks, the Chinese and India border troops have been taking effective measures to disengage at Galwan Valley and other areas in the west section. The overall situation at the China-India boundary is stable and ameliorating. The two sides will continue to maintain dialogue and communication through military and diplomatic channels, including holding a new round of commander-level talks and the meeting of the Working Mechanism for Consultation and Coordination on China-India Border Affairs. We hope India will work with China towards the same goal to implement consensus reached between the two sides with concrete actions and jointly de-escalate tensions in the border region.

https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_665399/s2510_665401/2511_665403/t1796528.shtml

Hopefully a link from the Chinese Govt website should remove any confusion among Pakistanis that doubt India's statements on disengagement. Total disengagement from both sides will take months because of both lack of trust between the two countries and moving equipment from that terrain takes time.

If you intention was to troll, I will appreciate you telling me since I can happily drop you in my ignore list.

"Disengagement" here means darpoke Indian Army will not engage with Chinese Army.

Which part of that you don't understand?

Both India-China had a 1993 and 1996 border agreement not to deploy the army amounting to a division level without informing each other.

All was fine until China cleverly provoked India into Indian build up at Doklam. Using that excuse, China since then has deployed 200,000 soldiers on the Indian border. India does not have the same amount on the Chinese border.

What are India's options now as it doesn't have the same military flexibility as China does? In fact, India is rushing in soldiers deployed against Pakistan just to face China in Galwan Valley.

 

[NAVDEEP DHALIWAL]

"Disengagement" here means darpoke Indian Army will not engage with Chinese Army.

Which part of that you don't understand?

Both India-China had a 1993 and 1996 border agreement not to deploy the army amounting to a division level without informing each other.

All was fine until China cleverly provoked India into Indian build up at Doklam. Using that excuse, China since then has deployed 200,000 soldiers on the Indian border. India does not have the same amount on the Chinese border.

What are India's options now as it doesn't have the same military flexibility as China does? In fact, India is rushing in soldiers deployed against Pakistan just to face China in Galwan Valley.

It is not cleverness. No country in the world like there 200,000 soldiers tied to a border.
That's why China will try to move its soldiers out of Tibet the 1st chance it gets.
Galwan valley /tibet looks pretty in pictures but comes the winter it's a headache to support 200,000 soldiers.
If a war doesn't happen till winters come, the army will move out .

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

It is not cleverness. No country in the world like there 200,000 soldiers tied to a border.
That's why China will try to move its soldiers out of Tibet the 1st chance it gets.
Galwan valley /tibet looks pretty in pictures but comes the winter it's a headache to support 200,000 soldiers.
If a war doesn't happen till winters come, the army will move out .

Duh, the 200,000 Chinese soldiers have already spent two years there, regularly training, exercising and built permanent military habitat all along the border.

This is something moronic Indians still think isn't possible but Chinese are already there since 2017... only 200,000 Indian soldiers aren't there, scared of the winter by the looks of it.

 

[NAVDEEP DHALIWAL]

Duh, the 200,000 Chinese soldiers have already spent two years there, regularly training, exercising and built permanent military habitat all along the border.

This is something moronic Indians still think isn't possible but Chinese are already there since 2017... only 200,000 Indian soldiers aren't there, scared of the winter by the looks of it.

Well if this is true. Than war is sure shot.

And if it doesn't happens I would consider the Chinese biggest morons on this earth.

 

[hussain0216]

Well if this is true. Than war is sure shot.

And if it doesn't happens I would consider the Chinese biggest morons on this earth.

???? War????

Why war, China can simply continue salami slicing India

India has already shown that you can get away with so much from taking territory to beating Indian soldiers to death

And all India would do is make up stories for its own people's consumption

There is no deterrent in that

 

[Mighty Lion]

Ajai Shukla has got busted for being a lier:
Ajai Shukla the same idiot who was saying in 2013 Entire Galwan valley is in Chinese control but later his lies got proved wrong and he had to change gear in 2020. Just like 2013 claims were bogus his 2020 claims are bogus too.

Ajai Shukla is Indian version of Jianli Yang or Hussain Haqqani.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

India has been humilated

It's accepted it can't defeat or push back China

India hasn't got the balls to attack or declare war

During negotiations India has agree to cede territory in return for China not pushing forward, atleast for the moment
China has no intention of leaving
And India is playing for time, hoping to build up forces, hope the U.S gets involved (true darpok behaviour)


In the meantime India can't reveal this to it's population,.
HENCE THE OPTICS
It's all optics for India now

An imaginary victory is better then a real defeat for India

On what basis India is humiliated?
Shukla is your source?
And what Shukla's source is?
Only Shukla remains your source of entertainment.
He is in opposition camp.
Do you take Bilawal Bhutto speeches as truth when he speeks?
The truth is, China claims the whole Galwan valley but Indian Army forced them to push even far from actual LAC. This is a very very much humiliation for China, not for India.
India is a winner here clearly.
Because China came to invade but they are retreating downing their heads.
The first step of engagement is the process of bring back status qou.
Go home China.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

...
The truth is, China claims the whole Galwan valley but Indian Army forced them to push even far from actual LAC. ...

What is your source?

So far the Indian Defence Ministry and Army hasn't given any statements. All these fictitious claims are being made by the Indian media from "anonymous" sources. Why can't the Defence Minister or the Foreign Minister make such claims?

... Because China came to invade but they are retreating downing their heads. ...

China took 10 steps forward and 1 step back.

10 step forward resulted in killing 10 Indian soldiers, wounding 80 and captured another 10. Lesson taught.

1 step back means giving India a face saving exit from the situation ... until the next time.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

What is your source?

So far the Indian Defence Ministry and Army hasn't given any statements. All these fictitious claims are being made by the Indian media from "anonymous" sources. Why can't the Defence Minister or the Foreign Minister make such claims?



China took 10 steps forward and 1 step back.

10 step forward resulted in killing 10 Indian soldiers, wounding 80 and captured another 10. Lesson taught.

1 step back means giving India a face saving exit from the situation ... until the next time.

Any person who has little knowledge how to review satellite images, can find the truth about disengagement.
You guys are here just for troll, using unreliable sources to make you sleep better.
You are talking about govt sources?
Modi already said "no incursion"
But still u don't believe. Ufff.

 

[hussain0216]

Any person who has little knowledge how to review satellite images, can find the truth about disengagement.
You guys are here just for troll, using unreliable sources to make you sleep better.
You are talking about govt sources?
Modi already said "no incursion"
But still u don't believe. Ufff.

Yaar there is fundamentally enough information to suggest that China came
Took territory
Beat your soldiers to death
Took multiple Indian soldiers POW including officers

Now after talks China has retained territory in a agreement where both countries step back

But India steps back in its own territory with no option or ability or courage to really fight China



It's a honest waste of time going through Indian fantasy stories of Bihar regiment this, Modi that blah blah blah



Your might convince your gullible public but just like Feb 2019 all the power players in the world have understood exactly what has happened and how India really has no options


Your only resort is the optics battle in which you can declare another great Indian victory