Differences between Bengali Hindu and Bengali Muslim

[DalalErMaNodi]

To me mishti doi is a half assed attempt at desert, how can it win against firni, payesh or khir I have no idea

 

[Joe Shearer]

Bikrampur was the capital of Bangladesh starting in the 700-800 AD and until 1200 AD when Bakhtiar Khalji attacked. It was the capital of Pal and Sen dynasties for multiple centuries. Some ruins still exist at Baliati.

Sen Rajas moved their capital at that time to Swarnagram (Sonargaon) which remained so until the start of the Bengal Subah Sultanate around 1500 AD I believe. The ruins of Sonargaon (which was a textile traders community in the later stage) still exist and are a tourist attraction now.

Bikrampur (Manikganj) is the maternal abode of Nobel Laureate economist Amartya Sen by the way, if you did not know. His family later moved to Shanti Niketan, a very illustrious family close to the Tagore family.

We are Bikrampur people and as far as I knew until your post, Bikrampur doesn't exist any more. Bikrampur was a mahukuma, a part of a district, not a village or a town; our village was in this region of Bikrampur. It, too, doesn't exist any more; it got washed away.

I am surprised to learn that Bikrampur, near Dhaka, was the capital of the Pala and Sen dynasties; the Palas established themselves in Gauda, later known as Lakhnauti, presently located in Malda. There is considerable distance between Lakhnauti and Bikrampur.

When Bakhtiyar Khilji attacked the palace of Lakshman Sen with 17 horsemen, he attacked his palace in Lakhnauti. I learnt these when studying history and specialising in the history of Bengal, with the University of Dhaka textbook, the multi-volume History of Bengal, as a guide. I am the third in my family to read history; my father was a contributor to the festschrift presented to Professor Susobhan Sarkar (Sumit's father) and my grandfather was a professor of history at Jagannath, formerly College, today, I am told, a University.

Amartya Sen's family is related to ours; we are Baidyas. He left Bengal due to my father's warning to his father that Delhi was hunting him.

 

[Michael Corleone]

What do you mean, Bikrampur? I thought it was no longer existent, that it was washed away ages ago?

Bikrampur still exist. It’s munshiganj district now. good to know a fellow bikrampura exist
Hindu population is a minority now, most left during the war
Bikrampur sweets, houses and businessmen are well known all over Bangladesh.
Some idiots do break tradition with gaudy architecture. I prefer the wooden houses of bikrampur better

 

[Joe Shearer]

Bikrampur still exist. It’s munshiganj district now. good to know a fellow bikrampura exist
Hindu population is a minority now, most left during the war

I know that Munshiganj is the successor district, but is there a village named Bikrampur? There is nowhere for me to go and see our ancestral roots, because our village doesn't exist any more.

Bikrampur still exist. It’s munshiganj district now. good to know a fellow bikrampura exist
Hindu population is a minority now, most left during the war
Bikrampur sweets, houses and businessmen are well known all over Bangladesh.
Some idiots do break tradition with gaudy architecture. I prefer the wooden houses of bikrampur better

You will be amused to know that my kaka, who wrote pulp fiction, used the name 'Bikramaditya' for obvious sentimental reasons! His books sold well, but they were awful, Mickey Spillane stuff.

 

[Michael Corleone]

I know that Munshiganj is the successor district, but is there a village named Bikrampur? There is nowhere for me to go and see our ancestral roots, because our village doesn't exist any more.

munshiganj people all identify as bikrampura, as the district basically inherited all the land that fell on bikrampur. If you know the name of your area, (I reckon this depends on thana) for ex, mine is tongibari... then it will be easier to locate

 

[Joe Shearer]

munshiganj people all identify as bikrampura, as the district basically inherited all the land that fell on bikrampur. If you know the name of your area, (I reckon this depends on thana) for ex, mine is tongibari... then it will be easier to locate

Village Bejgaon.

None of the elders could give me any more detail. Many of us cousins tried locating the approximate location when we went to Dhaka, and out to Munshiganj.

munshiganj people all identify as bikrampura, as the district basically inherited all the land that fell on bikrampur. If you know the name of your area, (I reckon this depends on thana) for ex, mine is tongibari... then it will be easier to locate

Small world.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Village Bejgaon.

None of the elders could give me any more detail. Many of us cousins tried locating the approximate location when we went to Dhaka, and out to Munshiganj.



Small world.

According to thana: (might be wrong but checked google maps) Munshiganj then ramshing then tongibari then baligaon and bejgaon at last before mawa

 

[Bilal9]

According to thana: (might be wrong but checked google maps) Munshiganj then ramshing then tongibari then baligaon and bejgaon at last before mawa

Dada @Joe Shearer you may be right about the village being devoured by the river. My condolences. :-(

https://munshiganj24.com/2017/07/15/padma-riverbank-fear-erosion-grips-thousands-villagers-living/

 

[Tom-tom]

To me mishti doi is a half assed attempt at desert, how can it win against firni, payesh or khir I have no idea


Pakistani sweets
Barfi made of nuts and ghee... I remember my uncle used to bring gourmet sweet companies box from Lahore everytime he went to Pakistan. may he Rest In Peace

among Bengali sweets, I love the ones made in my village... bikrampur... you could taste and smell the milk in the misti. God I miss em

I had feni ( its like a rice pudding but the rice is very fine broken sediments. )
What's payesh?

 

[Joe Shearer]

According to thana: (might be wrong but checked google maps) Munshiganj then ramshing then tongibari then baligaon and bejgaon at last before mawa

???

It exists? Omigawd!!

I had feni ( its like a rice pudding but the rice is very fine broken sediments. )
What's payesh?

YOU HAVEN'T HAD PAYESH?

Where are you located? This is an emergency.

 

[Tom-tom]

???

It exists? Omigawd!!



YOU HAVEN'T HAD PAYESH?

Where are you located? This is an emergency.

What's payesh? please indulge me

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

???

This is an emergency.

What's payesh? please indulge me

code 23/19 I repeat 23/19

We've got an individual here who hasn't been corrupted by PAYESH yet.

Take my advice Tom, you don't wanna try PAYESH it will corrupt your soul.

Although I suppose it's too late, you've already had firni, the harbinger of evil.

There is a cure though for this firni affliction, 3 ros molais, 4 jalebis and some mishti doi everyday for the next week.

If you're lucky you may be cured.



On an unrelated note, does anyone like chitol pita ? It's by far the only pita that I can binge eat, especially with that brown sweet stuff in the middle.

Btw what even is that, is it gur (jaggery)? My vocabulary in standard Bangla is fairly limited, so I don't know what that stuff is called, we call it mida (lit. sweet) or ghur.

 

[Michael Corleone]

What's payesh? please indulge me

Bro you ain’t a Bengali
Payesh is like firni but the rice is pulao rice and not grinded before cooking

does anyone like chitol pita ?

Only with shutki bhorta or goru mangsho

Vapapitha anyone?

 

[Bilal9]

I had feni ( its like a rice pudding but the rice is very fine broken sediments. )
What's payesh?

I think Payesh is another name for Firni. Like all recipes, there are minor variations in texture and consistency and also ingredients used.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Dada @Joe Shearer you may be right about the village being devoured by the river. My condolences. :-(

https://munshiganj24.com/2017/07/15/padma-riverbank-fear-erosion-grips-thousands-villagers-living/

Old news. The erosion stopped for no after treating the flow of river. My original ancestral land in bikrampur was Lao gone in the river, the current land s four generation, rest of of the family settled elsewhere @Joe Shearer
Your lands were lost to river?