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Difference in Reactions of Saudi Arabia VS Turkey/Iran/Hamas against Trump's move

There is no difference in terms of reactions like the only Palestinian on PDF @Falcon29 stated already at the beginning of the thread.

This is a propaganda nonsense thread created by a Wilayat al-Faqih Mullah terrorist full of hypocrisy from a bunch of people whose countries have significant dealings with the US and the West themselves on all fronts. I don't see their governments stopping any military, aid, economic, business, political dealings with the US or the West due to this US decision. Just a farce that only gullible people believe in.

KSA is free to do whatever it wants to with its money and investments and whatever the US does (the supreme superpower of the world) is not something that KSA can change or not. It requires efforts that are not in place currently by the Muslim countries. Simple as that.

KSA was one of the first countries to condemn this decision.

KSA's representative at the UN already voiced strong criticism at the UN a few days ago.

Look at the date of the article below.

Saudi Arabia reaffirms solidarity with Palestinians
RODOLFO C. ESTIMO JR. | Published — Friday 1 December 2017
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Manal Hassan Radwan, political coordinator of Saudi Arabia’s permanent delegation to the UN, delivers her address.

RIYADH: Saudi Arabia reaffirmed its “firm support and full solidarity” with the Palestinian people at the UN on Thursday, the Saudi Press Agency (SPA) reported.
The address at the UN was delivered by Manal Hassan Radwan, political coordinator of Saudi Arabia’s permanent delegation to the UN.
She called for “the establishment of an independent and sovereign state (on) all of the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967.”
Radwan said: “We strongly condemn all... Israeli campaigns on occupied Palestinian territory, and hold Israel alone as the occupying power responsible for its shameful acts of killing innocent Palestinians.”
She highlighted the “destruction of Palestinian land, the destruction of thousands of houses, buildings and infrastructure, all the human and material damage inflicted on the Palestinian people for more than 70 years.”
She said the half-century of occupation and decade of the Gaza blockade will not be forgotten for generations.
“Israel’s aggressive behavior continues to undermine all calls and demands of the international community to stop serious violations, and its commitment to international resolutions and respect for the law,” Radwan added.
“Saudi Arabia calls for the Palestinian cause and its legal, political and humanitarian rights... to be at the forefront of the international community’s concerns, with a view to the immediate implementation of all UN resolutions in this regard.”
She called for immediate international protection for the Palestinians in the occupied territories.
“Saudi Arabia affirms the Islamic, Arab and Palestinian identity of occupied Jerusalem, and East Jerusalem is an integral part of the Palestinian territory occupied by Israel since 1967,” Radwan said.
“Its annexation by Israel... is illegal , unrecognized and condemned by the international community.
“We condemn in the strongest terms the ongoing violations against Al-Aqsa Mosque and worshippers by Israeli occupation forces and settlers.
“We call for an end to these repeated violations and (for) Israel... to respect the rights of freedom of worship and preserve the inviolability of worshippers and holy sites.”
Radwan said: “The Palestinian people have suffered a long period of unjust occupation and... racist policies of oppression, and we commend them for their steadfastness and struggle to defend their land and their sons and sanctities.”
The continuation of Israel’s “illegal settlement practices, the seizure of Palestinian land and expulsion of its indigenous population... is strong proof of its policy of ethnic cleansing,” she added.
“This undermines the two-state solution, and affirms that it (Israel) is not concerned with peaceful solutions, but rather that it seeks to... continue the occupation and deprive the Palestinian people of their rights,” she said.
Meanwhile, Saudi Foreign Minister Adel Al-Jubeir denied the existence of any ties between the Kingdom and Israel when he attended a meeting at the Arab League headquarters in Cairo.
The Arab Peace Initiative (API) remains the path to normalizing relations between Israel and the 22 Arab states, Al-Jubeir added.
Radwan also said: “My country holds Israel... fully responsible for the consequences of the heinous crimes of extremist settlers against the Palestinian people, and calls for the inclusion of settler leaders and extremist settlement groups on the terrorism list.”
She said the API — presented by Saudi Arabia, and adopted by the Arab League and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) — represented a historic milestone in the quest for a just and comprehensive peace for the Palestinians and all the peoples of the region.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1201896/saudi-arabia

Radwan in action before;



A brave and a very articulate women.

Nothing "came" late. KSA probably knew that Trump would take this decision as one of the first regional countries. Or had a strong suspicion of this. The same day Trump made a strange statement of KSA needing to stop a non-existent blockade on Yemen


(a very strange comment considering the actual ground realities)

and earlier today KSA had a meeting with the Russian vice foreign minister in KSA and other Russian diplomats where the head of Saudi Arabia's intelligence service took part in. Strange times.


@The Eagle take a look at this troll thread.



Because he is trolling and obviously is well aware of this fact.



Another Iranian Mullah genius in action that meddles in affairs that have nothing to do with his country or people.

A Qatari source that quotes a "rumor". Very credible. Might as well use PissTV next time.



Well, what do you expect from a Wilayat al-Faqih Mullah terrorist supporter who is obsessed with Arabs, claiming to be an Atheist and interested in "justice" while he is propagandizing Farsi Mullah propaganda. He is nowhere to be seen in regards to affairs in Syria where 100 times the number of civilians have been killed (with the blessings and full support of the Iranian regime) but he is heavily involved in "Yemeni affairs" here on PDF in support for the Houthi terrorist cult despite.

Meanwhile he lives in Canada (one of the closest allies to the US), pays his taxes (that fund the Canadian army that took part in US wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan) etc. while his country of origin receives aid from the US, uses US weaponry, is aligned with the US politically since decades, has economic and business dealings with the West, political dealings etc. Not to mention Turkey that is a NATO member (NATO is ruled by the US - the other member states are basically US minions) and a country that relies on the WEST (EU) economically completely and which buys billions of dollars of US weaponry as well.

In fact Pakistan is one of the few countries that could actually do something militarily against Isabel (being the sole Muslim nuclear power) but it has never done so. In fact nothing but political statements. Some 10 or so Pakistani pilots volunteered 50 years ago but that's about it.

But, but KSA is to be blamed for everything. Of course if you want to pursue an agenda that only gullible clowns believe in.

Long live hypocrisy. Made in PDF.

Yes that was the long post where Saudia was doing all kind of "Regrets" etc. but not a single practical step.

Question:
If Saudia feels that they are so weak, then why to do the Drama of "regret"?
Why not to ask the Israelis openly to take whole of Palestine so that the issue could be solved? After all "nothing" will happen if Israel indeed kick out the all the Palestinians too.

In Vietnam war, America was again stronger, but still resistance was shown and we see the results.

If you are not able to do anything, then it is one Issue, but if you are not "intended" to do anything, then it is another Issue.

The problem with Saudia is of this 2nd type.
That is why Saudia is saying: Trump is a true friend of Muslims
Naturally Saif al-Arab is never going to answer this stupidity from MBS.

Saudia always followed the wrong policy. It was with British against the Ottomans. Then it was always in the lap of US and Saudia never tried to come out of US control.

Moral is: "Something is always better than Nothing".

The issue with Saudia is, it is "NOTHING".

Even if you don't got to war with Israel/US, still you could show extreme anger by calling the Diplomats back, even for show purpose. But Saudia is not even able to threaten US with this small act of diplomacy. This the the depth of bottom line where Saudia has fallen in front of US.

Hizbullah was also weak, but showed some resistance and finally got the South Lebanon back.

Saudia's negative role is this what we say in Urdu: نہ خود کھائے نہ دوسروں کو کھانے دے

It means that dogs sometimes neither eat themselves (while their belly is full), but still they don't let the others to eat.

Iran and Hamas and Hezbullah were showing little resistance against the expansion of Israel, but Saudia cried with full voice against them and killed their voice to in the issue of Palestine.
 
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Yes that was the long post where Saudia was doing all kind of "Regrets" etc. but not a single practical step.

Question:
If Saudia feels that they are so weak, then why to do the Drama of "regret"?
Why not to ask the Israelis openly to take whole of Palestine so that the issue could be solved? After all "nothing" will happen if Israel indeed kick out the all the Palestinians too.

In Vietnam war, America was again stronger, but still resistance was shown and we see the results.

If you are not able to do anything, then it is one Issue, but if you are not "intended" to do anything, then it is another Issue.

The problem with Saudia is of this 2nd type.
That is why Saudia is saying: Trump is a true friend of Muslims
Naturally Saif al-Arab is never going to answer this stupidity from MBS.

Saudia always followed the wrong policy. It was with British against the Ottomans. Then it was always in the lap of US and Saudia never tried to come out of US control.

Moral is: "Something is always better than Nothing".

The issue with Saudia is, it is "NOTHING".

Even if you don't got to war with Israel/US, still you could show extreme anger by calling the Diplomats back, even for show purpose. But Saudia is not even able to threaten US with this small act of diplomacy. This the the depth of bottom line where Saudia has fallen in front of US.

Hizbullah was also weak, but showed some resistance and finally got the South Lebanon back.

Saudia's negative role is this what we say in Urdu: نہ خود کھائے نہ دوسروں کو کھانے دے

It means that dogs sometimes neither eat themselves (while their belly is full), but still they don't let the others to eat.

Iran and Hamas and Hezbullah were showing little resistance against the expansion of Israel, but Saudia cried with full voice against them and killed their voice to in the issue of Palestine.

honestly don't bother with saudis. Docile saudis are doing one of three actions: going into defence mode, doing mental gymnastics and venting anger at america ignoring trump was given a kings welcome in KSA or finally being quiet on the matter too scared to say anything against their brilliant king and prince
 
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If Saudia thinks so, then why not to openly say hell with Palestine, I am with Israel? Why then to do the drama of being "Khadim-e-Harmain Sharifain" and leader of the Muslim Ummah, and hero of the Arab affairs? This hypocrisy makes Saudia's role more hateful.

Saudi has no intrest in ummah chumma..they look after their own intrest first..
Haramian Sharifain is Makkah and Madina..
Lastly, Saudis are not hyper obsessive with religion..
 
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Saudi has no intrest in ummah chumma..they look after their own intrest first..
Haramian Sharifain is Makkah and Madina..
Lastly, Saudis are not hyper obsessive with religion..

Good if Saudis are not obsessive with religion.
But problems are:

(1) Saudia was No. 1 in exporting the hardcore Islam in the whole world.
Saudia was calling itself Khadime Harmain Sharifain.
Saudia was calling itself the leader of the Muslim Ummah.
Saudia was calling itself the leader of Arab Affairs.

(2) I see no "Humanity" in the Saudis, which is my real issue with Saudia.
Looking for your own interests is not humanity.
Saudia has dictatorship and King system. I was always very uncomfortable with it. This means normal citizen has less rights. Saudi police used to detain them without any charges and they got no human rights to sue the Police. Especially the non Saudis living there, they got not enough rights.

Western systems are humanity based systems.
 
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The title of the thread gets the sectarianism between wahabis and shiites exposed yet again; and Turkey has no place in this disease despite the title.

The disease is listened to for decades has created the ''current'' result long before this situation against that ''tiny'' Israel(no offence meant); and will slap each time so long as the audience do not embrace the life like science, technology,education, health, food etc. instead of death/killing each other for the virus of the disease.

After all, the only thing the disease is interested in is the death as seen in the disease infected countries; on the other hand, look at that ''tiny'' Israel that embraces life, therefore does whatever she wants no matter she is right or wrong.
 
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Good if Saudis are not obsessive with religion.
But problems are:

(1) Saudia was No. 1 in exporting the hardcore Islam in the whole world.
Saudia was calling itself Khadime Harmain Sharifain.
Saudia was calling itself the leader of the Muslim Ummah.
Saudia was calling itself the leader of Arab Affairs.

(2) I see no "Humanity" in the Saudis, which is my real issue with Saudia.
Looking for your own interests is not humanity.
Saudia has dictatorship and King system. I was always very uncomfortable with it. This means normal citizen has less rights. Saudi police used to detain them without any charges and they got no human rights to sue the Police. Especially the non Saudis living there, they got not enough rights.

Western systems are humanity based systems.

This is called political gimmickry, the wise see through it and the fools fall for it..

  1. India is world largest democracy.
  2. USA is the leader of the free world, although cryptography is illegal in USA and legal in neighboring Canada.

The title of the thread gets the sectarianism between wahabis and shiites exposed yet again; and Turkey has no place in this disease despite the title.

The disease is listened to for decades has created the ''current'' result long before this situation against that ''tiny'' Israel(no offence meant); and will slap each time so long as the audience do not embrace the life like science, technology,education, health, food etc. instead of death/killing each other for the virus of the disease.

After all, the only thing the disease is interested in is the death as seen in the disease infected countries; on the other hand, look at that ''tiny'' Israel that embraces life, therefore does whatever she wants no matter she is right or wrong.

Nice to see a wise rational Turkish here.
Something for Pakistanis to learn who are addicted to Ummah Chumma!

Palestine is a disease and Palestinians are selling this disease for financial gains..its time to end this disease..
 
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Saudis too busy in London clubs having gay rent boys
Saudi women in London clubs getting it on with westerners

Saudi royal family a bunch of mixed breed mongrels
 
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