Difference between Khuda hafiz and Allah khafiz ?

[DESERT FIGHTER]

The world adaab is more associated with the hyderabadis and stuff.

 

[DRaisinHerald]

As far as I know both are used quite often. I've never, ever heard of anyone use Adaab and Khair Makdam.

 

[Darth Vader]

I have seen some Pakistani television programmes and found they told allah hafiz everytime no Khuda hafiz ? Why ?

Similarly no 'Adaab' but khair-makdam etc.

What is problem with Khuda hafiz and adaab ?

well the main difference is Khuda = god has many meanings and it can be used any where hindu , Chrstn ,muslim , any religion
Since their is no meaning of translation of Allah it cant be used for anywhere else so its a bit more specific to Allah almighty

 

[Yaduveer]

well the main difference is Khuda = god has many meanings and it can be used any where hindu , Chrstn ,muslim , any religion
Since their is no meaning of translation of Allah it cant be used for anywhere else so its a bit more specific to Allah almighty

This is quite non-sense !

Hindu and chirstian using Khuda for God ... do you ever see Hindu using Ram khuda and Krishna Khuda ??

Khuda is persian word , so what is problem with persian ? Urdu script is itself mix of Arabic and Persian letters.

P.S. Persian was mother tounge of all Mughal emperors, You claim Mughals were part of Pakistan but Persian is not . Quite strange !

 

[Darth Vader]

And Adaab its a urdu word which is from arabic ( adab) which means respect and politeness so it can be used in my term depends where you are using it on the other hand Khair makdam is more specific to welcome

This is quite non-sense !

Hindu and chirstian using Khuda for God ... do you ever see Hindu using Ram khuda and Krishna Khuda ??

Khuda is persian word , so what is problem with persian ? Urdu script is itself mix of Arabic and Persian letters.

its not non sense What i meant was it can be used any where to define any one not only to ALLAH Almighty

Khuda also means lord now there can be many lords cz we also use lord for humans but Only one ALLAH almighty

 

[A.Rafay]

I use both Khuda aswell as Allah! Allah Hafiz is good!

 

[Saleem]

I have seen some Pakistani television programmes and found they told allah hafiz everytime no Khuda hafiz ? Why ?

Similarly no 'Adaab' but khair-makdam etc.

What is problem with Khuda hafiz and adaab ?

adaab is used by the "modernists" who want to appear "neutral" and are embarrassed by islam....they want to be"secular".....

 

[Yaduveer]

Adaab in a Time of Allah Hafiz
Some months ago, I was chastised by a woman for saying “adaab,” instead of “assalamaleikum,” the latter being the “the proper Islamic greeting” in her opinion. I grew up as a Muslim and learned to say “adaab” when I met someone and “khuda hafiz” when we parted ways. Originating from a North Indian Islamicate high culture, “adaab” as a form of greeting was imbued with a certain class hierarchy. It was a familiar greeting even in many elite non-Muslim households in North India. Among many other Muslim populations, the Arabic greeting “assalamaleikum,” meaning “may peace be upon you,” was also used. But there was no formal dictum about the usage while I was growing up and there could be overlaps.

So, as a child, I often replied with an “adaab” to someone who came in saying “assalamaleikum” and it was not considered inappropriate. As for “Allah hafiz” (“may God keep you safe&#8221, I did not hear the term until about a decade ago. The word “khuda” originates from Persian, but because it is used in other languages too, it can be seen as a more embracing word for God than Allah in the South Asian context. Thus, although they emerge from a specific North Indian Muslim culture, “adaab” and “khuda hafiz” have had a more inclusive history.

Today, these terms are being given up by many Muslims in India from different class backgrounds in favor of the more unambiguously Islamic “assalamaleikum” and “Allah hafiz.” For those of us who seek to draw attention to the complicated greys that lie between the uncompromising blacks and whites, this notion of unambiguity is naturally problematic. But in this trajectory of change from “adaab” to “asalamaleikum” and from “khuda hafiz” to “Allah hafiz,” there are other stories about why people group around markers of identities, about what gives people a sense of security and comfort, about what creates new groupings.

 

[jaunty]

The replacement of Khuda Hafeez with Allah Hafeez is a product of arabization, I read it somewhere.

OK found it, here it is.

In Pakistan, saying goodbye can be a religious statement

Until about 10 years ago "Khuda hafiz", which means "God protect you", was the phrase commonly used to say goodbye. But, in the past decade, "Khuda hafiz" began to be overtaken by a new term "Allah hafiz". Now, "Allah hafiz" is used by everyone from religious clerics to fashion models and the country's top TV anchors.

 

[ShahidT]

As I learned from somebody, Khuda Hafiz is what Persians use...it is a more broad term which can be used for any religion and for any God a person might have, while Allah Hafiz is more specific to Muslims since Allah Almighty is believed upon only by Muslims.

Yes, 'Khuda' is a Farsi word derived ultimately from Avestan. Zoroastrianism, as a monotheistic religion native to Persia, predated even Judaism by some accounts.

Allah Hu, Khuda, Rabb, YHWH (Judaism), Abba/the Almighty 'Father' (Aramaic Christian), Ahura Mazda (Zoroastrians), Ishvar (Vedic/Hindus), Ik Onkar (Sikhs) are different names for the same One, Supreme Truth and Creator.

It is only mankind which has blinded itself from this fact through politics, power and greed in the name of religion.

 

[Yaduveer]

I got it, "Adaab" and "Khuda Hafiz" are prominent words of South Asian culture.

Pakistan saw themselves as part of Arabian culture of middle east not South Asian culture.

Pakistan chooses to purify themselves of 'impurities' of South Asian or say better Indian culture.

Hense they choose aasalamvalkum or allah hafiz instead of adaab and khuda hafiz because adaab or Khuda hafiz was too much Indian.

correct me if I am wrong.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I got it, "Adaab" and "Khuda Hafiz" are prominent words of South Asian culture.

Pakistan saw themselves as part of Arabian culture of middle east not South Asian culture.

Pakistan chooses to purify themselves of 'impurities' of South Asian or say better Indian culture.

Hense they choose aasalamvalkum or allah hafiz instead of adaab and khuda hafiz because adaab or Khuda hafiz was too much Indian.

correct me if I am wrong.

Are you on drugs?

 

[Yaduveer]

Very Interesting..!

Interestingly, while Allah is an Arabic word, the Arabs themselves don't use "Allah hafiz" – which is a purely Pakistani-manufactured invention mixing Arabic with Persian. Rather the Arabs use "ma salama" or "Allah ysalmak" when parting company. And for any who feel there is no need to mention God in a greeting in any language, remember even the English word "goodbye" derives from "God be with you", which was the standard greeting at one time.

 

[Yaduveer]

In Pakistan, saying goodbye can be a religious statement

Does it matter what name people use for God? This is the question thrown up as a result of a strange development in Pakistani etiquette.

Until about 10 years ago "Khuda hafiz", which means "God protect you", was the phrase commonly used to say goodbye. But, in the past decade, "Khuda hafiz" began to be overtaken by a new term "Allah hafiz". Now, "Allah hafiz" is used by everyone from religious clerics to fashion models and the country's top TV anchors.

While languages change and evolve with time, and Pakistan certainly has bigger problems such as corruption and militancy, the alteration has unsettled liberals in Pakistan, who say it reflects a wider change in the country's cultural landscape.

Khuda is the Urdu word for God, borrowed from Persian. Yet today, some people claim that Khuda can refer to any God, while Allah is the specific name for God in the Qur'anic scripture. Others have gone so far as to claim the word Khuda may even have pagan origins.

The promotion of "Allah hafiz" first began in the 1980s under the rule of General Zia-ul-Haq when Pakistan was involved in the US- and Saudi-backed jihad against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. According to some reports, "Allah hafiz" was first used in public in 1985 by a well-known TV host on the state-run PTV. However it would be years later that the greeting took off.

The arguments used by Muslims who are against using the name Khuda appear similar to the ones used by those Christians in the United States who say Allah is a different God to the one they worship. There is no denying there are key theological differences between Islam, Christianity and other religions when it comes to the nature of God, but these don't necessarily mean people from different faiths can't use the same name, while simultaneously holding on to their own unique beliefs.

A few years back, a Roman Catholic bishop from the Netherlands, Tiny Muskens, attracted media interest after calling on people of all faiths to use the name Allah for God: "Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? What does God care what we call him? It is our problem."

And millions of English-speaking Muslims have no hesitation in using the name God to refer to Allah. There are more than 10 million Christians who live in the Middle East who use Allah to refer to God. In Malaysia, there has been controversy on the matter for years about Christians being allowed to use Allah to refer to God, with even churches being attacked by some Muslims who object.

Some have speculated the name Khuda may actually come from the word "Khud" which means "self" ("Khud-a" therefore translating as "self-revealing"). In Pakistan, the name Khuda is rooted in the very culture and history of the country. In the national anthem the final verse makes a reference to Khuda. A few years back a very popular film came out with the title Khuda Kay Liye ("For the Sake of God"). When former president Pervez Musharraf left office in 2008 he famously said in his farewell speech "Pakistan ka Khuda hafiz hai" ("God protect Pakistan").

Some continue to use the "Khuda hafiz" despite the popularity of "Allah hafiz". To these people, "Khuda hafiz" is part of an ideological battle to retain what they see as a more pluralistic approach towards religion, yet for others it is tradition or nostalgia that keeps the usage alive. Outside Pakistan, "Khuda hafiz" is also known to be used in Iran, Afghanistan, Tajikistan and among Muslims in India.

Interestingly, while Allah is an Arabic word, the Arabs themselves don't use "Allah hafiz" – which is a purely Pakistani-manufactured invention mixing Arabic with Persian. Rather the Arabs use "ma salama" or "Allah ysalmak" when parting company. And for any who feel there is no need to mention God in a greeting in any language, remember even the English word "goodbye" derives from "God be with you", which was the standard greeting at one time.

In Pakistan, saying goodbye can be a religious statement | Syed Hamad Ali | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
For .. @DESERT FIGHTER

 

[DRaisinHerald]

I don't get why this is such a big issue? Allah Hafiz is used because it uses God's Personal name, whereas Khuda is used in Urdu to generally refer to God. There's hardly anything more to it.

Allah = God's name
Khuda = "God" (from Persian)
Ilah = "God" (from Arabic)


It's almost unbelievable how fasadi these Indians are ready to be.