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Wrong again, it's an equity financing model. The province establish investment companies such as Hangzhou-Shaoxing-Taizhou HSR company and finance 50% with loans, 50% equity.


The central government is represented by CRC, whereas many provinces have established railway investment companies to hold their ownership interests. The overall financial structure is typically 50 percent equity and 50 percent debt.
The information I found is that Shandong Railway Investment Group (a state-owned enterprise subordinate to Shandong Railway Bureau, and the superior unit of Shandong Railway Bureau is the Ministry of communications of China) borrowed 13.6 billion yuan from China Development Bank, and the Shandong provincial government provided guarantee. China Railway Group also borrowed 18 billion yuan from China Development Bank and the Ministry of communications provided guarantee. The interest rate is 4.35%. Shandong railway investment group and China Railway Group share property rights. However, the superior units of these two state-owned enterprises are still the Ministry of communications. And their operation rights belong to the state railway administration.


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Reported to the mods for abuse. No passenger coaches in Bangladesh are painted blue. Probably a non-electrified branchline in BIMARU states.
No where in India we currently uses that type of signal. It's definately Lungidesh. No locopilot in India will run the train with that crowd on Locomotive, which is daily sight in Lungidesh.

In the last decade - Bangladesh invested massively in the rail sector and products from those countries were bought, not from India. But we are not discussing Bangladesh here, let's not derail the discussion.
What did Lungidesh do with MASSIVE investment? Stitching CHADDIS for railway coaches ?
 
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The difference between China and India rail-infra is night and day. No denying this.

Typical desi response, blame the messenger for "trolling".

Look at the message, the vlogger is not a Bangladesh guy. Nothing he says is false.

I have been on the Rajdhani express first class AC, and I have also had the pleasure of riding the Beijing to Shanghai Bullet train in China, there is no comparison. I am sorry. It is what it is.

One cannot put blinders on and pretend all is hunky-dory with Indian Railways. It is NOT. There is MASSIVE room for improvements. Indian govt. right now does not spend enough money despite the railways being the number one transport medium for the poor and underprivileged.

If India makes as good a railway product as US, Korea (for locomotives) Indonesia and China (for coaches and freight cars) at a competitive price - why will Bangladesh not buy? Right now however that remains to be seen.

In the last decade - Bangladesh invested massively in the rail sector and products from those countries were bought, not from India. But we are not discussing Bangladesh here, let's not derail the discussion.
Sure, the vlogger is not a Bangladeshi guy. But why is a Bangladeshi guy bragging about China's infrastructure to Indians who are not interested in what he has to say? This shows that the fellow is a weak troll who is desperate for attention. But do not fret. I'll not try to compare with Bangladesh with China, India or any other country. Because I do not care for Bangladesh at all :pop:
 
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Nothing bad in comparing Bharat with Cheen, in future we will be far more developed than Cheen as well.. For the moment we are behind Cheen in Rail department.. If bangloides are thrown in Banglaland are railway tracks will be much more cleaner..


Now a days gora g@nd earn there bread n butter by putting India vs Xyz in title.. Once a Gora G@nd always a Gora G@nd:)

more developed than China, ha ha ha ha ha :rofl:

stop open shiting and get your trash collected, then talking about high speed railroads
 
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On one hand you say that you have not travelled in Indian railways since last 20 years, still you have audacity to comment.


I hope YouTube is not blocked where you live. Kindly have a look at present state of IR and then comment.


Beta billu,
aaj kitni Chaddi sili ?
You should ask, How many toilets cleaned.
 
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No where in India we currently uses that type of signal. It's definately Lungidesh. No locopilot in India will run the train with that crowd on Locomotive, which is daily sight in Lungidesh.


What did Lungidesh do with MASSIVE investment? Stitching CHADDIS for railway coaches ?


Oh! What a Tangled Web We Weave​

When First We Practice to Deceive!​


You started challenging me - and I will show you what Tera India looks like. Get out of Gurgaon and see what India really looks like.

The Curious Case Of The Crumbling Coaches (does this look like Bangladesh to you - where most trains are MG anyway?)​

Kochuveli - Bangalore Express Coach (bogie) that Crashed While Shunting at Trivandrum


It happened again! Southern Railway’s railway coaches allotted to the TVC (Trivandrum) division are falling apart on the slightest provocation, not unlike how an Indian hatchback car crumbles when it makes the slightest contact with an external stationary object.

The latest incident which made headlines all over the country was when a sleeper coach of the 16316 Trivandrum Kochuveli – Bangalore Express crumbled into itself and then broke into two pieces with one end pointing up towards the skies while it was being shunted (attached) to the rest of the train. Fortunately there was no one inside the coach and even more fortunately it was not running on a mainline at 110 kph.

A huge railway carriage made of iron and steel which was supposed to be “anti-telescopic” and protecting people (72 atleast) traveling in it, on being pushed against another carriage just crumbled like a beer can smashed against a drunk forehead. Tells a lot, doesn’t it?

Kochuveli - Bangalore Express Coach (bogie) that Crashed While Shunting at Trivandrum


If you know some things about how Indian Railways works, you will know that the “serial” number painted on the upper exterior of coaches actually mean something. The first two numbers indicate the year in which the coach was manufactured while the remaining indicate the type of coach and the manufactured serial number.

The coach number of the ill-fated coach of 16316 was 89232. Note the first two numbers, which say 89, meaning that the coach was manufactured in 1989. This makes the coach a whopping 25 years old! Many of you reading this are not as old as that coach was. And what is more, there are many such “senior citizens” still running the length and breadth of the country carrying thousands unsuspecting passengers on their rusted bottoms.

However, it is the Southern Railway, or to be specific its Thiruvananthapuram (TVC) and Palakkad (PGT) divisions, or the state of Kerala, Mangalore City and the Kanyakumari district of Tamil Nadu included which are accorded with the unenviable honor of having become the old-age homes of railway coaches. It is no shock when a minister himself said that 75% of coaches in Kerala are over 25 years old!

This incident is just the latest in a series of similar incidents all of which took place in the state in the past couple of months. Coaches are falling apart while starting, stopping, running, pushed, pulled… It has been long known that Indian Railways dumps its oldest and most useless coaches in Kerala. Almost all trains in the state run with these ancient coaches which carry with them the legacy of decades gone by. And on the way, some of these coaches naturally die of old age. Here are some of those obituaries that happened in Kerala in the past few months:


Alappuzha: Coach Breaks Away From its Underbody as Train Starts Moving

Trivandrum: Floor of Coach in GUV-TVC Intercity Collapses while Running

Chirayinkeezhu: Roof of BKN Express’s AC Coach Flies off While Running

Ernakulam: Sleeper Coach of Kerala Express Leaks Profusely While on Run


A Gallery of Senior Citizen and Rotten Coaches on Southern Railway (SR)

Erstwhile picture of the coach that was damaged in a shunting accident

Before and After: Picture of the 89232 coach that was damaged in the shunting accident, once upon a time (2013) while it was still in one piece. The coach was part of the consist of the same Bangalore – Kochuveli train.
A Dirty Coach of Southern Railway part of he KCVL - Bangalore Express

This coach of Southern Railway and Trivandrum Division was manufactured in 1998, but look at it’s decrepit, dirty and rundown condition.


A 2 tier AC coach made in 1990. A friend who traveled in this coach was talking about cobwebs and sand coming through the AC vents and horrible noise and dust inside the coach. Remember, you pay a premium for 2AC.
1989 made coach of the Trivandrum division of Southern Railway

Another Grandfather Coach made in 1989, proud possession of the Trivandrum division and part of the 16316/16315 Kochuveli – Bangalore Express again.
1988 Coach of Amrita Express


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This is a supposedly 1st class coach
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Lap of luxury and super clean trains in India...
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Luggage handling, a la WWII
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Look at where you are - then stop chest beating and bad mouthing the Chinese. Know your place....
 

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more developed than China, ha ha ha ha ha :rofl:

stop open shiting and get your trash collected, then talking about high speed railroads

These Indians do not understand that if you want to become a modern country, you need to have modern citizens first.

Before the social revolution in India, it was impossible for India to become a modern industrial country. And India is not even capable of land reform.
 
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Oh! What a Tangled Web We Weave​

When First We Practice to Deceive!​


You started challenging me - and I will show you what Tera India looks like. Get out of Gurgaon and see what India really looks like.

The Curious Case Of The Crumbling Coaches (does this look like Bangladesh to you - where most trains are MG anyway?)​

Kochuveli - Bangalore Express Coach (bogie) that Crashed While Shunting at Trivandrum


It happened again! Southern Railway’s railway coaches allotted to the TVC (Trivandrum) division are falling apart on the slightest provocation, not unlike how an Indian hatchback car crumbles when it makes the slightest contact with an external stationary object.

The latest incident which made headlines all over the country was when a sleeper coach of the 16316 Trivandrum Kochuveli – Bangalore Express crumbled into itself and then broke into two pieces with one end pointing up towards the skies while it was being shunted (attached) to the rest of the train. Fortunately there was no one inside the coach and even more fortunately it was not running on a mainline at 110 kph.

A huge railway carriage made of iron and steel which was supposed to be “anti-telescopic” and protecting people (72 atleast) traveling in it, on being pushed against another carriage just crumbled like a beer can smashed against a drunk forehead. Tells a lot, doesn’t it?

Kochuveli - Bangalore Express Coach (bogie) that Crashed While Shunting at Trivandrum


If you know some things about how Indian Railways works, you will know that the “serial” number painted on the upper exterior of coaches actually mean something. The first two numbers indicate the year in which the coach was manufactured while the remaining indicate the type of coach and the manufactured serial number.

The coach number of the ill-fated coach of 16316 was 89232. Note the first two numbers, which say 89, meaning that the coach was manufactured in 1989. This makes the coach a whopping 25 years old! Many of you reading this are not as old as that coach was. And what is more, there are many such “senior citizens” still running the length and breadth of the country carrying thousands unsuspecting passengers on their rusted bottoms.

However, it is the Southern Railway, or to be specific its Thiruvananthapuram (TVC) and Palakkad (PGT) divisions, or the state of Kerala, Mangalore City and the Kanyakumari district of Tamil Nadu included which are accorded with the unenviable honor of having become the old-age homes of railway coaches. It is no shock when a minister himself said that 75% of coaches in Kerala are over 25 years old!

This incident is just the latest in a series of similar incidents all of which took place in the state in the past couple of months. Coaches are falling apart while starting, stopping, running, pushed, pulled… It has been long known that Indian Railways dumps its oldest and most useless coaches in Kerala. Almost all trains in the state run with these ancient coaches which carry with them the legacy of decades gone by. And on the way, some of these coaches naturally die of old age. Here are some of those obituaries that happened in Kerala in the past few months:


Alappuzha: Coach Breaks Away From its Underbody as Train Starts Moving

Trivandrum: Floor of Coach in GUV-TVC Intercity Collapses while Running

Chirayinkeezhu: Roof of BKN Express’s AC Coach Flies off While Running

Ernakulam: Sleeper Coach of Kerala Express Leaks Profusely While on Run


A Gallery of Senior Citizen and Rotten Coaches on Southern Railway (SR)

Erstwhile picture of the coach that was damaged in a shunting accident

Before and After: Picture of the 89232 coach that was damaged in the shunting accident, once upon a time (2013) while it was still in one piece. The coach was part of the consist of the same Bangalore – Kochuveli train.
A Dirty Coach of Southern Railway part of he KCVL - Bangalore Express

This coach of Southern Railway and Trivandrum Division was manufactured in 1998, but look at it’s decrepit, dirty and rundown condition.


A 2 tier AC coach made in 1990. A friend who traveled in this coach was talking about cobwebs and sand coming through the AC vents and horrible noise and dust inside the coach. Remember, you pay a premium for 2AC.
1989 made coach of the Trivandrum division of Southern Railway

Another Grandfather Coach made in 1989, proud possession of the Trivandrum division and part of the 16316/16315 Kochuveli – Bangalore Express again.
1988 Coach of Amrita Express


iu


This is a supposedly 1st class coach
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Lap of luxury amd clean trains in India...
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Luggage handling, a la WWII
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Look at where you are - then stop chest beating and bad mouthing the Chinese. Know your place....

Hinduvta Indians are the loudest bunch, got to give them that, shouting from the roof, we are supa powa! :rofl:

They always talk first, then do nothing
 
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Third rate coaches and third rate trackage equal repeated disasters. And dare to be better than the Chinese "soon"! :-)

But Indian trains are super advanced and Electrified !!

6 dead as 11 coaches of Seemanchal Express derailed in Bihar (2019)​


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this is Bihar - for something called "Chath". I guess per Indian logic, electrifying trains prevent overcrowding....
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Now Sanghis tell me when Bangladesh wrote their train numbers and names in Hindi?
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Even narrow gauge trains in India are overloaded
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Third rate coaches and third rate trackage equal repeated disasters. And dare to be better than the Chinese "soon"! :-)

But Indian trains are super advanced and Electrified !!

6 dead as 11 coaches of Seemanchal Express derailed in Bihar (2019)​


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this is Bihar - for something called "Chath". I guess per Indian logic, electrifying trains prevent overcrowding....
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Now Sanghis tell me when Bangladesh wrote their train numbers and names in Hindi?
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Even narrow gauge trains in India are overloaded
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you nailed it, hopefully Hinduvta have some shame and stop nonsense boasting

but I know one fact is bhakts have none of that shame concept
 
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