Difference B/W Chinese Flankers and indian flankers

[SinoChallenger]

LOL at indians deluding themselves. You can't even manufacture your own ammo and you think you can match a high tech superpower like China. Everybody sells india garbage at high prices and indians are proud. MKI is eighties tech but indians dream about adding western mods. Then delude themselves as if they already have it.

 

[veekysingh]

LOL at indians deluding themselves. You can't even manufacture your own ammo and you think you can match a high tech superpower like China. Everybody sells india garbage at high prices and indians are proud. MKI is eighties tech but indians dream about adding western mods. Then delude themselves as if they already have it.

how about j-7 and j-8 which still count most numbers in plaaf

 

[SinoChallenger]

Our 250 J10 fleet is far bigger than your MKI fleet. Thats not even including flankers indigenous and imported. Those number 350 plus.

 

[veekysingh]

Our 250 J10 fleet is far bigger than your MKI fleet. Thats not even including flankers indigenous and imported. Those number 350 plus.

airforce only have 200 j10. if you claim something pls provide it with link

 

[veekysingh]

List of aircraft of the People's Liberation Army Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia see it yourself , or provide me some source of your claim

 

[mfreak]

high tech superpower like China.

Solve your problems in central china, fill up those useless ghost towns you have built in the name of "development of infrastructure" then we can talk about you becoming a "superpower". Both India and China will NEVER become superpowers, so being a little ahead of India shouldnt actually make you that happy. But ofc you can choose to delude yourself.

Our 250 J10 fleet is far bigger than your MKI fleet. Thats not even including flankers indigenous and imported. Those number 350 plus.

Bigger fleet, doesnt equal skill. You have zero innovation, zero battle trained troops. Paper superpower

 

[bhisma]

LOL at indians deluding themselves. You can't even manufacture your own ammo and you think you can match a high tech superpower like China. Everybody sells india garbage at high prices and indians are proud. MKI is eighties tech but indians dream about adding western mods. Then delude themselves as if they already have it.

Atleast we don't copy from others, just the way china does.. Starting from hair pin to Rolls royce to jets everything is copied..
And they see themself as the saviour of world's whole R&D..
Also MKI has avionics from 90s not 80s..

 

[mfreak]

LOL india's just a third world hole. Reality check. We smashed you once and we'll smash you again. The battlefield is China's proving ground.

Now dont get all worked up pumpkin. You didnt "smash" anybody, you just outnumbered them. Even then if you look at the figures, you killed about 1300, and we killed around 800, while being outnumbered about 9 times. Thats not smashing anybody.

Like I said, China is just a paper superpower. Sure, you have the numbers. And you do have the equipment (debatable). But no training, innovation or battle proven technologies.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Ummm.....You mean paint it in a different color? .

yes ...have about India's flanker? I guess you don't even know how to paint probably done in Russia

Look frankly speaking, there is lots of pseudo intellectual bullshit here. Yes, we cant say for sure if Chinese tech is superior, or inferior. But you have to take into consideration certain key factors:

1. Air combat experience.
2. Battle proven technologies

When did the Chinese air force fire a shot in anger against a worthy adversary? Never.
When was Chinese tech proven in battle successfully, and did the Chinese ever improve from any battle tested failures? Never.

Your strength is unfortunately only in numbers and on paper. Not sure without war and without training with other countries, especially the more battle trained western nations, how much you would actually be betteR?

I'll give you a small example. Pakistan will generally not be considered as good as the Israeli air force. But this is a false presumption. What happened during the Yom Kippur war and the Six day war when pakistan sent some of its airmen down there? They shot down 14 or 15 aircraft, without losing one of their own. BECAUSE they were more battle trained fighting against India.

So you cannot just judge by paper figures and paper technology.

Air combat exp,I don't see how Indian got more exp. than china, if you believe that training with other countries then they will reveal their secretcy about how to win a air combat...then you just dreaming. Only battlefield will make great soldiers...otherwise just your word against mine...we can go forever.

As for battle proven technologies: Western countries or Russia will sell you only the downgraded versions or what they judge that kid can play without danger toy. to be export...LMAO..so keep dream for battle proven technologies..

 

[Sergi]

Air combat exp,I don't see how Indian got more exp. than china, if you believe that training with other countries then they will reveal their secretcy about how to win a air combat...then you just dreaming. Only battlefield will make great soldiers...otherwise just your word against mine...we can go forever.

As for battle proven technologies: Western countries or Russia will sell you only the downgraded versions or what they judge that kid can play without danger toy. to be export...LMAO..so keep dream for battle proven technologies..

And I thought you were knowledgeable person among your comrades you disappoint me Mr Dragon

 

[cn_habs]

Quick update: J-16 is SAC's newly developed domestic version of Su-30MKK with numerous enhancements such as AESA radar, composites, radar absorbent material, MAWS, and more.

For instance, given how backward Soviet electronics are:

Su-30 MKK:

Su-30 MKI:

Fully domestic J-11B/16:

 

[Sergi]

Quick update: J-16 is SAC's newly developed domestic version of Su-30MKK with numerous enhancements such as AESA radar, composites, radar absorbent material, MAWS, and more.

For instance, given how backward Soviet electronics are:

Su-30 MKK:

Su-30 MKI:

Fully domestic J-11B/16:

Where is your brain ??? You are comparing Russian design in late 90s to Chinese copy of same design in 2012. Really ???
If you want to measure your Chinese di@k with Russia then here you go
SU-35 cockpit

 

[anarchy 99]

MKI doesn't have any Indian parts, all foreign imports.

Flankers in china all have domestic Chinese systems except the airframe.

Indians are not yet capable of reverse engineering or innovating.
This is why they have to import everything.

Reverse engineering takes skill, otherwise anyone can do it.

We reverse engineered in the 1990's, now we are improving on the knowledge we learnt and producing our own systems which are improved on the original.

After that we have the technical and knowledge base to produce next generation systems.

 

[Paan Singh]

MKI doesn't have any Indian parts, all foreign imports.

Flankers in china all have domestic Chinese systems except the airframe.

Indians are not yet capable of reverse engineering or innovating.
This is why they have to import everything.

Reverse engineering takes skill, otherwise anyone can do it.

We reverse engineered in the 1990's, now we are improving on the knowledge we learnt and producing our own systems which are improved on the original.

After that we have the technical and knowledge base to produce next generation systems.

You still couldnt get rid of russian air frames .leave the avionics

 

[anarchy 99]

You still couldnt get rid of russian air frames .leave the avionics

You can't get rid of ANYTHING, forget airframes.